[IC] Myriad Reality

[Disdain]

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If you want the below one percent option, theoretically... If we gained enough of the mess of a System currently in place, we could use the Mechanisms of Existence in conjunction with the Mammon Machine... and we got the Administrator's help... We could trap Nyarlathotep using her own power and simply not free Azathoth. But that's not really an option, it's rather a dream within a dream within a dream.

@Threads of Fate

30 or so of us capturing 51% of Existence? That does sound like a ghost's dream.

[Threads of Fate]

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What would that entail?

@System

From what I understand, it would require conquering Existence ourselves, then re-finding the Mammon Machine, finding whoever was the one to restore the NAN Sector's influence on Existence. All of which are effectively zero in and of themselves.

[Disdain]

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As I said, that falls under improbability.

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At that low, we could just let the two fight in person, which means we have a sixty-seven percent chance of defeating the victor if it's Azathoth, and a sixty-one percent chance if it's Nyarlathotep. Specifically, though, the casualties would be immeasurable throughout all of Existence. Those two don't fight like you or I would. And even then that's assuming that all of their followers of note are outright killed before their confrontation.

Otherwise... The only other option at that level that would increase our odds is to join one side outright, but then we're picking between two undesirable outcomes. We may as well just join Nyarlathotep and be done with it.

@Threads of Fate

My boyfriend is part of a group that's fought and won a few of these wars for Existence in the past. If he can procure their help, perhaps they can be added to the plan. But I know we have enough of us to unite first as it is.

[Threads of Fate]

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30 or so of us capturing 51% of Existence? That does sound like a ghost's dream.

@Disdain

It would require more than the base abilities of the System. I believe it would be closer to eighty-percent, necessary for that.

[Threads of Fate]

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My boyfriend is part of a group that's fought and won a few of these wars for Existence in the past. If he can procure their help, perhaps they can be added to the plan. But I know we have enough of us to unite first as it is.

@Disdain

Hence why I invited him here. But yes, exactly.

[System]

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From what I understand, it would require conquering Existence ourselves, then re-finding the Mammon Machine, finding whoever was the one to restore the NAN Sector's influence on Existence. All of which are effectively zero in and of themselves.

@Threads of Fate

Then it's not worth considering.

[Dynamics]

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My boyfriend is part of a group that's fought and won a few of these wars for Existence in the past. If he can procure their help, perhaps they can be added to the plan. But I know we have enough of us to unite first as it is.

@Disdain

I mean, don't oversell me or anything. I'll help with what I can.

[Disdain]

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I mean, don't oversell me or anything. I'll help with what I can.

@Dynamics

I'm not overselling you, stupid, I'm selling the group. *Murmurs* But thank you.

[Disdain]

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Hence why I invited him here. But yes, exactly.

@Threads of Fate

And that's not including the unaligned Codi we want to bring onto our side. How many are there? It may be worth trying to learn about each of them and to convince them to join us, but if there are too many, that might not be fully viable.

[Threads of Fate]

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Then it's not worth considering.

@System

Correct.

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I mean, don't oversell me or anything. I'll help with what I can.

@Dynamics

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I'm not overselling you, stupid, I'm selling the group. *Murmurs* But thank you.

@Disdain

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[Dynamics]

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I'm not overselling you, stupid, I'm selling the group. *Murmurs* But thank you.

@Disdain

Well, I have a few friends I could reach out to.

[System]

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Correct.

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@Threads of Fate

Is reading probability all you can do?

[Threads of Fate]

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And that's not including the unaligned Codi we want to bring onto our side. How many are there? It may be worth trying to learn about each of them and to convince them to join us, but if there are too many, that might not be fully viable.

@Disdain

Around eighty noteworthy Codi who have yet to pick a side.

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Is reading probability all you can do?

@System

I can also influence it, to a large extent. But if we free Azathoth, I will be using my ability to the fullest to prevent their direct confrontation, so do not rely on my ability in your planning.

[System]

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Around eighty noteworthy Codi who have yet to pick a side.

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I can also influence it, to a large extent. But if we free Azathoth, I will be using my ability to the fullest to prevent their direct confrontation, so do not rely on my ability in your planning.

@Threads of Fate

How far can you influence it in our favor?

[Disdain]

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Around eighty noteworthy Codi who have yet to pick a side.

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I can also influence it, to a large extent. But if we free Azathoth, I will be using my ability to the fullest to prevent their direct confrontation, so do not rely on my ability in your planning.

@Threads of Fate

Is there time for you to influence it before we release Azathoth? Or, if we're seen to be working against Nyarlahotep, will it be too dangerous to wait?

[Threads of Fate]

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How far can you influence it in our favor?

@System

By preventing their fighting, or in other ways?

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Is there time for you to influence it before we release Azathoth? Or, if we're seen to be working against Nyarlahotep, will it be too dangerous to wait?

@Disdain

Giving us a better chance of success in releasing her would be my best use. And unfortunately, while the current chances of Nyarlathotep attacking us if we act before freeing her is low, she is able to change those chances very easily, depending on her whim at the time. However, if we're caught trying to free Azathoth before we succeed, the likelihood of her personally defeating us is very, very high.

[System]

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By preventing their fighting, or in other ways?

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Giving us a better chance of success in releasing her would be my best use. And unfortunately, while the current chances of Nyarlathotep attacking us if we act before freeing her is low, she is able to change those chances very easily, depending on her whim at the time. However, if we're caught trying to free Azathoth before we succeed, the likelihood of her personally defeating us is very, very high.

@Threads of Fate

In other ways.

[Threads of Fate]

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In other ways.

@System

Hmm... Presumably, I could allow victory over lesser opponents that would otherwise be too much. I could help us avoid fights we don't want to fight as well. To be honest, I haven't much considered it, once I found out how dangerous a direct confrontation of the two would be.

[System]

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Hmm... Presumably, I could allow victory over lesser opponents that would otherwise be too much. I could help us avoid fights we don't want to fight as well. To be honest, I haven't much considered it, once I found out how dangerous a direct confrontation of the two would be.

@Threads of Fate

Then we need to factor in the limits of that strength.

[Disdain]

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Hmm... Presumably, I could allow victory over lesser opponents that would otherwise be too much. I could help us avoid fights we don't want to fight as well. To be honest, I haven't much considered it, once I found out how dangerous a direct confrontation of the two would be.

@Threads of Fate

What about a different win condition: convincing the Codex not to try and take over Existence? Are there higher chances of doing that?