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All come seeking. Any may climb. But only one will reach the peak of The Mountain.


The Black Mountain is an 8+ person, low-powered ranked tournament, with multiple complex arenas in which to engage. Losing does not mean elimination, but the defeated will need to scratch and claw their way up to have a chance at ultimate victory... to succeed in this Tourney, you'll need tenacity, cleverness, even a fair amount of sheer daring. Will you be the one to ascend the peak, and pass through the Angel's Gate?

The Story:



The Rules:



The Contestants:



The Arenas:



The Black Mountain awaits those brave enough to attempt the climb. Step forth!

Participants:
1. MelonHead - Sigurd Stoneheart
2. Doc Doctor - Gonad Yakspitter
3. Vordak - Gigue Lagace
4. ShidenBlades - Nicoli D'Angelo
5. DJAtomika - Guzman Galliard III
6. FallenReaper - Trixi
7. Scarifar - Shen Chung Gong
8. Chimera - Iolanthe Adastreia
(more slots may open up if sufficient interest is expressed)
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I will certainly show interest in this.

Need to decide on which character to use though.

Are you treating magic items like spells? Only a few and with a limited scope? @Drifting Pollen
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Are you treating magic items like spells? Only a few and with a limited scope? @Drifting Pollen


Glad you're interested! Existing characters are welcome, as well as new ones.

As for magic items... it depends on the scope/use of them really. Something like boots that enhance speed would be counted as regular equipment, since that kind of upgrade is similar to, say, playing a character of a race with naturally high speed (same effect, different reason). Likewise, a spear that transforms into a sword would not count towards the magical limitation, as that's an effect that could be replicated to some extent by simply carrying two weapons.

A magic item would count as a 'spell,' however, if it had a distinct and sudden effect that gave a major advantage while being well beyond the boundaries of ordinary weaponry/equipment. For instance, if you recall our match in a previous tournament here: the 'rust dust' you used as Nicoli, which could eat away metal in seconds, would be allowed here, but would be counted as a spell. So would the floating blades I used- but since those were under total and maintained control rather than being a single technique, those would not be allowed here. A floating blade could still be potentially used, but it would need some limitation- the leviation would only last a certain time, perhaps, and have limited uses.
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Hmm, I was going to give this tournament a miss because I'd participated in the last two, but the concept is just too interesting (and particularly up my street) to ignore. I'll tentatively express interest as it seems like there's more than enough space for everyone who wants in to participate.

How do you plan on taking character submissions? Via PM for secrecy or out in the open in OOC?
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I might be interested. Depends on where this goes.
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How do you plan on taking character submissions? Via PM for secrecy or out in the open in OOC?


Good question! Secrecy is a tempting idea, and one I'd definitely like to try out sometime... but on the other hand, it's easier to RP if you understand who your opponent is and what they're doing, and seeing what characters other people are using often helps players choose/make their own. The other thing is: I'm not the most experienced at the moment (been in two fights here and around 12 on other sites), so it would help to have others reading the character sheets to point out errors/stuff that needs clarifying/overly exploitable abilities that I didn't notice on my own.

So for this one, I'll ask for submissions in the OOC... but if you don't mind, I might steal your idea for sometime in the future :P

I might be interested. Depends on where this goes.


Gotcha. Hopefully we'll go where you're looking for...
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Hmm, if you're not wholly confident in character acceptance you could ask someone to help you and keep character submission secret. Having too many judges (AKA open submission, where everyone plays their part in character acceptance) doesn't tend to work all that well as people have different ideas about character judgements (it's very subjective). The main upside to a secret admission (the characters can be revealed after the tournament starts, I personally recommend this as well, but only from what I've seen in the past) is that it stops people unconsciously or consciously creating characters to combat others. You'd think it would be difficult to cover every opponent but even at low powered it's possible to tack on a few extra defences to protect you from a character's unique form of attack you might not have thought of.

Still, that's just my two cent, it's completely up to you what you do with your tournament. Don't take anything I say as anything more than recommendations, it's your show.
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A secret submission, like Melon says, is a great way to keep the fighters in the dark. It prevents the building of characters "immune" to everything that others can do. You have your parameters for what constitutes a "character" acceptable to this fight, evaluate each character along those lines, if there is a question about something send it back with your concerns. You are the ultimate judge of this. As I told you I can help evaluate the characters as a second set of eyes, but if you feel that a character does not fit your parameters you can deny it with the caveat that the player tweak the character.
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Interest.
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Hmm, if you're not wholly confident in character acceptance you could ask someone to help you and keep character submission secret...


You and Skalla make some interesting points there. The part I quoted would definitely fix the one problem, even if Skalla didn't have the time to go over all submissions with me I could get different people to work on different ones...

The other thing is characters being revealed once the tournament starts: a lot of my other concerns, such as being able to understand what the enemy fighter was doing, were based on the characters remaining hidden throughout (seems I misunderstood you a bit there).

So tell you what: I'll give anyone who wants to the option of PMing me their character sheet in secret, to be posted when the tourney starts. Will edit the first post too. (Also letting @DJAtomika and @ShidenBlades know).

Also, with DJ we have three declarations of interest, and one of possible interest! Glad to see this taking root so far.
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4 declarations of interest. I'd just like to see a wider scope of what constitutes 'low' powered here. I get that this generally means a cap on how many powers, and their potency. But to clarify would a wind elemental be allowed to send cutting gales that could pierce armor? Could a psionic use TK as perhaps a shield or to fly? Are those classes even allowed? And if so, id like to be given examples of their limitations or general examples of all powers.
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4 declarations of interest. I'd just like to see a wider scope of what constitutes 'low' powered here. I get that this generally means a cap on how many powers, and their potency. But to clarify would a wind elemental be allowed to send cutting gales that could pierce armor? Could a psionic use TK as perhaps a shield or to fly? Are those classes even allowed? And if so, id like to be given examples of their limitations or general examples of all powers.


Almost all of your questions can be answered in the first post, under the Rules and Contestants hiders.
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Just realised Melon's in here.

Hey @MelonHead, if it comes to it, rematch.
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As something of a reference (and because I'm not overly worried about my submission being secret) this will be the character I'll be entering. He is what I'd call a fairly standard example of a low-powered character, only a touch above the peak of unpowered.

He's also the second character I ever created for Arena and fairly unrefined, before I got the knack for detailed CS. I won't be upset if a few things need adjusting to fit the specific requirements of this tournament Pollen, just let me know. Provided he does fit, it might help anyone new to this (or just new to creating a character of this power level) decide on an entry.



@DjAtomika I hope so, I'm still disappointed our confrontation was marred by my internet woes. If it had stretched on it would have been one to remember.
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@MelonHead Hell yeah man. I actually wanted that fight to go on. XD
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4 declarations of interest. I'd just like to see a wider scope of what constitutes 'low' powered here. I get that this generally means a cap on how many powers, and their potency. But to clarify would a wind elemental be allowed to send cutting gales that could pierce armor? Could a psionic use TK as perhaps a shield or to fly? Are those classes even allowed? And if so, id like to be given examples of their limitations or general examples of all powers.


I listed most of the rules under "Contestants," but I'll try to clarify. You're essentially right about low powered fights, in that they limit powers and potency. A good rule of thumb is to make your character so that a skilled, clever, but otherwise ordinary human would stand at least a small chance against them in a fight.

A wind elemental would be allowed, and would be able to use cutting gales as you described. However, to qualify for this tourney they would need a physical form of some fort (being literally made of wind would render them immune to most non-magical attacks), and would have their powers restricted to certain techniques, rather than total control of wind. For example, a hypothetical elemental character could manifest as a solid, near-transparent creature with the ability to throw piercing/cutting blades of wind (as you described), conjure sudden gusts to blow itself around or hinder an opponent, and chill its breath and blow frigid blasts to freeze anything standing in front of it.

It could potentially apply these abilities in other manners (for instance: blowing downwards to freeze the ground and then luring the opponent onto slippery ice to be blown off their feet by a gust), but would not have access to the full range of possible wind-based abilities. Similarly, when choosing powers, you wouldn't be approved if you gave it something like the ability to pull all the air out of an opponent's lungs from several meters away.

Psionics would be similar: shields and flight would be allowed, but would need to be limited in certain ways (for instance, the shield conjured might only cover a certain angle, or break under a sustained assault... and flight/levitation might be limited in duration, more of an escape measure than a way to completely shut down all melee attacks).

Glad you're interested, and hope this helps explain things! If you're still worried about power limitations, maybe try posting or sending me your character- you aren't disqualified by submitting a character with abilities exceeding Low powers, I'd just ask you to edit whatever abilities looked problematic before granting approval.

As something of a reference (and because I'm not overly worried about my submission being secret) this will be the character I'll be entering. He is what I'd call a fairly standard example of a low-powered character, only a touch above the peak of unpowered....


Had a look over him, seems he'd fit in well. Consider Sigurd approved!

(Will probably start a list in the first post this evening with those who have declared interest, so I can keep track of you all).
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Here's my app.

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I'd like to take part as well.

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@Doc Doctor Approved... for what's in the sheet. Gonad's ability set seems fine, but I did notice something about a 'plethora of other abilities' in there. If those aren't going to be relevant, then he's in, but if you have anything that wasn't explicitly listed that he might end up using then you should let me know. Also, you were vague about his precise strength level... but I did see you mention a while back that you tended to vary that to match whichever tier he was fighting in, which I'm assuming you'll do here. Anyways, good to see Gonad again!

@Vordak Looks good! His strength is a bit higher than what I was thinking, but you've balanced it out with limitations to his other attributes. Gigue is in.

I've also received confirmation from ShidenBlades that he'll be participating. This makes four fighters, which is already a solid start (seems we're going to have a lot of melee combat too)! Will probably wait a few more days for others to request/confirm participation, before kicking things off this weekend if everyone's ready. At the current rate of enrollment, an eight-man tourney seems a reasonable goal.
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@Drifting Pollen
I left that part open ended because he really does have flat out total control of his body, and can pretty much do anything that is physically humanly possible, least of all in theory only. To list all of the little odds and ends would take a long time, and they are already pretty obvious. Things like high flexibility, muscular control, perfect balance, and other obvious incidental stuff that accompanies someone stated to be "the supreme master of his own body..." that "can control its functions at will."

Yes, that includes deciding when he can poop down to the last second.
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