Andreyich

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@Andreyich Oh hey, it's nice to see you again in this thread. What have you been up to? Allegedly attending more rallies that you conveniently leave before you can provide evidence that you were present?

@catchamber

[insert strawman] try again

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I just like to debate.

@catchamber

it's funny then that you don't

Warhammer 40k: Enemy Without, Enemy Within - an 'Ecclesiarchal' RP [Mature][High Casual/Low Advanced]

Sorry I de facto left right there at the end lads, but in the new year I'll have strength renewed

Patrol (Military Roleplay In The 20th Century) - Vietnamese-American War

@Sirkaithethird
link?

Patrol (Military Roleplay In The 20th Century) - Vietnamese-American War

This still open?

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Haha lol DRUMPF (get it lol) is a russian plant literally a sleeper cell checkmate rednecks rayciss xd

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My issue with god could be perfectly summed up in this picture. I mean, it's like she took the words right out of my mouth.

@Xandrya

<Snipped quote by Xandrya>
While she raises a good point, there's always another option. Maybe God doesn't give a shit. Maybe God looks at us the same way we look at microbes or domesticated animals. Maybe the Big Bang lagged God's computer so hard, they have no idea that any of this shit is happening, and they're floating around shouting profanities at the infinite void while they wait for the customer support hotline to take them off hold.

Not that I'd worship God, no matter what their reasoning is. After all, why the hell would a being capable of creating the universe want or need a mere primate on a hypersonic lavaball to shower it with praises?

@catchamber

Yeah no that's stupid and wrong, and an immature "objection." This is a simple variation of the Epicurean Paradox issue that is consistently raised to theists as if it's some sort of "aha, gotcha!" style of riposte. However, if people who posted such shit bothered to pull their heads out of their asses for a few moments they'd realize it's already been resolved several times dozens of times across many cultures and eras.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodicy

tl;dr "tracie harris" actually gave a damn about anything but being an annoying edgelord she'd know she's raising a rather stupid non-argument. Although perhaps it wasn't wise to share rather basic information since people who say such shit need this bubble of self-righteousness to exist.

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Soooo...you basically believe in Purgatory then?

No, it's not purgation. Purgation presumes hell is eternal, by God's mercy hell is not, what I speak of is hell.

I don't really think you can use those as examples since, as far as I know, none of them believe Christ is the Son of God who sacrificed himself to save us all from our sins. Pretty sure they just consider him to be a very wise teacher. Though I could be wrong.

Okay, I can subtract the Muslims but it stands for Bah'ai, Hindus, and Unitarians.

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Which part if I may ask? The part where I don't believe in a separate immortal soul or something else?

Yes, along with your weird concept of resurrection.

Wait, so are you trying to say here that God, has forgiven everybody and will therefore save everybody despite whatever choices or decisions they make? Even if they outright reject God and want nothing to do with him?

People have free choice but they make the right one eventually. Upon death it may take a long time but all will eventually come into communion with him. Hell is the temporary state of being out of touch and communion with God. For those who want nothing to do with him and commit heinous acts like Hitler, Lenin, etc. this may take longer but all will eventually see the light.

So all of humanity has no choice in the matter but to be forced to follow God and live forever no matter what they do in the here and now?

No, they have a choice; be in or out of communion with HIS holiness. Having complete erasure of your consciousness is perhaps the most evil thing a deity could do.

Way to make freedom of choice completely irrelevant and pointless, if that were the case then everyone is free to do whatever they want at whatever price with no consequences except for what happens to them on this Earth.

Again, wrong. It will take longer to see your material misgivings, then to subsequently repent and enter communion with his Holiness. In the material world people have many boundaries and disadvantages from person to person, it's not hard to be pious when you have all the world at your disposal, while it is when you are born to a crack whore with an uncle that sometiems moseys over to rape you.

In your opinion. Though I will say my opinions are very different from the mainstream Christian to be sure, but I still consider myself a Christian because I follow Christ.

Muslims, the Bah'ai, and some Hindu off-shoot groups follow Christ. Doesn't make them Christian.

You can still enjoy the fascinating discussion of how people are doing Iron Age cult practice wrong.

You're awfully stupid with nothing of worth to contribute, but God will forgive you.

But enough about Sweden's migrant policy.

man don't you remember brown people religion is alright

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Funny thing here is I completely agree with you for the most part. The doctrine of hell itself is flawed and 'hell' only exists where sinful people make it. So essentially Earth in its current form is our 'hell'. Also there is no such thing as an 'after-life', there is only life and death, the spark of life or nothingness. There is a resurrection where the dead are brought back to life but it is not as separate entities called souls, but as a complete person. A 'living' soul is a flesh and blood person, not some formless thing trapped in our bodies.

That's weird cult shit, as is

God is so compassionate and understanding, that he is willing to look past anything people do if they truly want to accept and follow him and follow through on that promise. He is also compassionate enough to allow his creations to not choose him and go their own way, but as God himself is the source of all life, the natural consequence of that is death. If someone hates God so completely that living forever in his presence would be their own version of 'hell', God will not take their free will away but instead accept their decision and let them go.

But I'd like to zoom in on the greatest anti-Christian part of this so called Christian doctrine

He is also compassionate enough to allow his creations to not choose him and go their own way, but as God himself is the source of all life, the natural consequence of that is death. If someone hates God so completely that living forever in his presence would be their own version of 'hell', God will not take their free will away but instead accept their decision and let them go.

God as we are clearly given witness will forgive but his divine salvation is provided regardless of anything that happens to someone, or their choices. All our actions are like rags and worthless to someone so grand and enlightened but by HIS mercy we receive eternal salvation and joy completely equally as we are told by the prophets since Abraham.

God will not give people immortality if it would only bring them misery.

it won't

that's not Christianity you're subscribing to m8