Cyndyr

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A warrant for arrest.

OOC Gender Restrictions

To start off, I'm really sorry to learn that you got abused when younger. So my sympathies go to you.

That said, this is a reason (I never thought of) as to why people may be selective and both sexist. As you said you were wary of makes, and as much as that is a reason there are 100 more that fit this category of thinking and are not necessarily sexist. Yes it may limits one's options but there's no point in placing your personal self in an uncomfortable state just because others say that you must treat all equally.

@NuttsnBolts

Thank you for your thoughts, I appreciate the sentiment.

With that said, I don't necessarily think that many people consider this possibility nor do I find it to be sexist. Narrow-minded, perhaps, but not sexist. I never once held hatred for the male gender and even despise those who preach that women should. In my case, I just found them a tad bit scary when I was younger and uneducated in the fact that people can be abusive regardless of gender.

I should also state that I think it's a little too much of a jump to imply that people solely looking to Roleplay with one gender or another are inherently sexist (though I won't deny that the possibility could certainly exist).

The people in here criticizing role-play discrimination on the basis of gender in Romantic or Erotic RPs. Probably have racial, height or body type preferences in real life.

@Dynamo Frokane

I think this is a fairly sound point to keep in mind as well. We have preferences. It happens in both real life and in Roleplay. We're allowed to have them just as people are allowed to dislike that we have them.

OOC Gender Restrictions

How is that relevant to excluding roleplayers based on gender.

@DeadDrop

It isn't.

I'm a bisexual woman and I Roleplay with all genders equally. When I was younger, I might have been more inclined to Roleplay with females though. My reasons would be entirely comfort based as I was sexually abused by a male as a child and encountered (vastly male) perverts while on the internet which was a little scary for a thirteen-year-old. In my opinion, abuse and bad experiences are entirely valid reasons to request NOT Roleplaying with one gender.

Could it be ignorant? Yes, it can be. We still have to remember that the Guild does cater to a wide range of ages and backgrounds, however, and we should at least attempt to be open-minded. If someone requests to only Roleplay with one gender, then that is entirely their choice. Roleplayers have the right to preferences, after all.

OOC Gender Restrictions

This is quickly becoming an uncivil discussion and there is never a reason to be attacking another individual for their opinion. With that said, I agree 100% that gender is irrelevant when it comes to Roleplaying, but I also feel that Roleplayers have the right to their own preferences. I always perceive it as a matter of comfort. If someone doesn't feel comfortable writing with the opposite/same sex, then that's totally fine, but they're probably going to miss out on some golden opportunities.

Anyway, that's my quick two cents. I have to return to writing a paper on pit bulls. Thanks for reading.

Ciao.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

Yes, the victim trend is becoming rather strong, isn't it.

@ArenaSnow

We're getting complaints about this thread becoming toxic when someone's disagreed with.

A goal of any of these threads seemed to be, "Let's not get it closed for being out of control."

Just a friendly warning it may be starting to shade in that direction.

@Ruby

Not trying to moderate this thread or anything, but I never said that Ruby didn't have a point when she said this (and neither did J8cob as far as I can see, but I could be wrong). We were able to do quite a lot based on the first thread that Odin created such as helpful guides and nudge Mahz who has since fixed the PM system and added new tags as well.

Now, I don't necessarily stand by the idea that this thread or any of these threads will do anything, but I would like to kindly ask if you could either offer constructive criticism and opinions or simply leave it be. Thank you kindly in advanced.

I don't agree with all of what Odin posts, and I do consider him biased to some degree, but he's actually bothered to advance the topic, while you & co are simply crying victim and not really doing anything in the discussion.

@ArenaSnow

I must have missed where you contributed to the conversation.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

>start civil discussion
>people that disagree with the thread's premise come in and immediately start being hostile
>"Come on guys, keep it civil."

@j8cob

I'm starting to see trends in these threads.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

So... what does that have to do with me, and why should I care?

If that happens, call it out when it happens. As far as I see, that hasn't happened in this thread, so at this point, it just looks like you're ranting. It doesn't really help anything.

The whole circle that these threads tend to take is rather tedious, as it tends not to result in anything.

@ArenaSnow

You shouldn't care. I simply apologized to you and explained my reactions. Carry on as you will.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

If you were paying attention to the conversation, you would note that the cesspool was the politics channel, and nothing to do with your kneejerk reaction to call "help! He's calling me terrorist!"

Try again.

@ArenaSnow

I was paying attention, thank you. I have no need for your condescension when it wasn't exactly clarified in the first place. With that said, I do apologize for the confusion. I know that it is no excuse whatsoever, but I just learned that I am apparently wrestling with a fever (thanks college), so perhaps my attention isn't on point at the moment. My point still stands (maybe not directly towards you), however, that there are some parties that are quick to toss our arguments aside simply due to our affiliations and whatnot. It's tiresome when you want to improve something that you care about, but people try to silence you over and over again with comments like "you're the vocal minority", "you're a bunch of trolls", and whatever else.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

If the idea behind your post was that "nobody else wants to do it, so I'm better than nothing" then I'm not sure that the concept of scraping off the bottom of the volunteer barrel for a cesspool (that you participate in)

@ArenaSnow

Hilarious how Odin and I can make thread after thread with civility, politeness, and solid arguments with evidence. Despite this, however, we're still somehow painted as the harbingers of doom while others sink as far as to say that we're "terrorists" or that we "participate in a cesspool".

Give me a break.

Looking Back - 5 months have passed, what now?

The point is, if I decry 'you people' it's because most of you, at least seem, like a very select and vocal minority on RPG who have, for the most part, all had your run ins individually with the administration of RPG, and I strongly suspect that your motivations are intrinsically linked with those experiences. In short, I'd like to see someone who has proven they can co-operate and work with moderators and engage in realistic and respectful dialogue with them be a spokesperson for the guild. Not you guys, to be honest.

@MelonHead

Do you mean like this?