DarkwolfX37

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LegendBegins said
I think I'm rather happy with how I'm working now. Thanks for the offer.

And that's why I could honestly say that you don't care about science.

Remember all those times we thought about how similar we are? It always seems to be that it's one sided. But I understand that, and even why. I can't and wouldn't change that, because it's better like that. Maybe some day you'll figure out what I mean by that, but I'm doubtful. You never do figure out what I allude to, after all.

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LegendBegins said
Well that's a shame that you believe that, because I will never stop, until the day one of us dies.

I'll keep that in mind as an added benefit next time that becomes an option.

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Heroic said
Changing is not always necessary. I can get better or improve myself without completely changing myself. My thumbs are getting sore, so I'm going to avoid longer responses now, but that basically covers what I want to say, I think.

Change is literally the most necessary thing to ever be a thing. "Everything must change". Whether you change in ways that can't be noticed or in ways that are fundamental, whether you change for better or for worse, there has to be a catalyst. And I promise you, with absolute sincerity and a lifetime of experience, choosing the catalyst and the change is far, far better than letting life choose.

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LegendBegins said
Although, one last thing. Lucifer was never a being, it was a title. In Latin, it means "Light Bringer." Satan has always had this title.

Again, you're ignoring the original text. Although while on the subject of "one last thing", if you actually do have this need to try to save me or however you justify your desire to have me become a slave to your god, then don't fucking pray about it. Do those comparisons I mentioned. Do some actual fucking science instead of throwing it out and claiming to love it.

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LegendBegins said
Dark, I can't do this anymore. Your words hurt, because I see how far you are from the light, from love, and from joy. From this point on, regardless of what you say about my God or me, I'm not going to humor you with the response, because you're a fool, one who seems beyond the point of saving. It's not for me to judge, but further debate with you is utterly pointless. I'll stick to the atheists that actually use valid arguments when debating me, instead of insults and "I'm right you're wrong" arguments (although I do see that a lot). I can't do it anymore, and I quit. So congratulations, you whittled me down beyond my point of arguing. However, you'll never pull me below my point of prayer. I've prayed for you every night for months, and will continue to regardless.

Well stop. I don't want your idea of "help" from anyone, and I sure as hell don't want something from a jackass like that. And more than both of those, I don't want to cause you to throw away your chance at looking down at all the people being tortured in hell. Because by praying for my sake, whether to turn to god or whatever else, you're praying for the antithesis of your god. So if you actually give a shit, then don't do that. Because on the off chance you're right, you don't want me to get forgiven. Because if your bible is right, then you'll probably be sent to hell in my place, and I promise you that if I ever get even the slightest chance, I'm going to destroy that motherfucker. So pray for your own sake, or for the people who you so casually dismissed the lives of in defense of your friend's health. But don't fucking do it with this notion of it somehow helping me. It fucking doesn't.

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LegendBegins said
Then you are most certainly fooled. Actual, the Bible takes it a step further. "The says in his heart, 'There is no God.'"

And knowledge is what caused humans to go away from god.
You'd be surprised how many examples could be used to call you a complete idiot using your own bible. I'd bet that I've called you an idiot in the past due to related issues, but I never intended to call you one due to your theism alone. Remember, I'm a lucifer, not a satan. I'd rather have you realize the flaws and come up with ways to fix them than have you realize them and throw the whole away entirely.

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Heroic said
Without influence or help, no one would do well. That's just a fact. Humans are not a species that can live in isolation from each other. Living on your own and never receiving guidance or help are two different things. I never even said anything about not having influence or aid from anyone, I'm merely talking about having the right to make my own decisions.

Living by yourself and living on your own are two different things. You don't just become something different than you've always been. You can only choose to change yourself, and what you are will follow if your will to change is strong enough. If you've ever come to the conclusion that you should not be dismissed just because you're younger than someone else, then you already know that on some level.

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LegendBegins said
The same applies to you then, and you have no right to claim I'm wrong. However, I don't need to read the others to know the truth. It's as if I knew the sky was blue and you wanted me to read a new theory of how it was green. Although, your statement of science is totally incorrect, and I'm sorry that you think that way. It's just not right.

Considering that you thought that Ken Ham won, that you honestly believe that "god" is a better answer than "I don't know", it is with absolute certainty that one could say that you don't care about actual science, you only care about this false idea that you have in your head. Because without the ability to admit "I don't know", science does not exist. That very statement is the one thing upon which all else hinges in terms of science.
On the other hand, philosophy hinges on the statement "I don't believe (idea)", which is something you have never once said in regards to what you place yourself upon. If you don't find a philosophy of self, then you do not have a platform to see the world with which would allow you to truly find a philosophy of anything else.

Your analogy is also wrong. You're claiming that a crow is a raven. It may be easy to mistake, and you may be able to create an argument for your case for a short while, but it's not long until your claim begins to fall apart. You may even be able to convince people who don't have any prior knowledge. But at some point you're not going to be able to keep saying it.

As for what I'm doing, I'm tossing rocks into a river in the hopes that I'll kill a shark. There are move effective ways, but this does the least damage to the environment and ecosystem.

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Heroic said
I am an adult in that respect alone, but this is not the only prerequisite for adulthood. I believe I would do an okay job on my own, and I am more mature than most my age, but in the end, I am still only a kid. Not a child, but a kid.And to your second point, that is because of societal corruption. Other, "cooler", opinions get into one's mind and convince them that the wrong action is the best action. Through correct parenting, yes parenting, of all things, more people would be classified as adults, by my definition.

You didn't see what I was getting at. If being an adult means living on their own, without others' influence or help, then there has not been a single adult since before humans began forming tribes.

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LegendBegins said
You can fool yourself, but you have been fooled by Satan, and by the world. Whether I agree or not is irrelevant in the truth of something, but when you attempt to make him act against his own beliefs, and then press yours, you're just as bad, if not worse than Christians who shove it down your throat.

I'm attempting to change his beliefs. In which direction, I really couldn't care less. And besides, I freely admit that I'm a hypocrite, ironically enough, and I press not being subservient or deaf to your own instincts just as strongly as you press your own beliefs to yourself.
I'm not fooled by satan or lucifer or anyone else. I just happen to agree with the notion that some jealous, murderous, lying, power hungry schoolyard bully who's son happened to turn out good by rebelling against everything that his dad stood for doesn't deserve praise or love, and certainly not blind obedience.