Fabricant451

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The problem is every time Pokemon has an announcement people like expect that this one is going to be the one where they show off gen 4 remakes and it's like...at some point you gotta walk away.

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If Abby had been solely playable and established it would've played better narratively imo. The way the opening hours play out are choppy as shit because it bounces between Ellie and Abby but doesn't really establish Abby as a character despite clearly the game wanting her to be the secondary protagonist. This creates a weird disconnect where you get the tutorial for healing as Abby then the exact same tutorial for healing as Ellie like twenty minutes later, and Abby's story is incredibly coincidental to the point where it borders on the absurd.

If the game had spent the opening, say, two hours establishing Abby and her rapport with Owen and the WLF crew she's with, maybe have them setting up in the house, then Abby ingratiates herself with Jackson (thus serving as a way to do tutorials - maybe to gain 'trust' or whatever she crafts things, for example) and eventually meets Joel. Maybe he draws the short straw and has to take this new girl on a route tour or whatever, they get to talking, establishing rapport, getting along, and Salt Lake City is mentioned and Abby adds two and two together, realizes this is the dude, springs the trap and takes him back to the house.

Then you can have the Ellie/Jesse/Dina stuff play out pretty normally, though maybe with a bit more combat encounters for you to apply your tutorial knowledge (and to show that Ellie is older and more experienced now) with the only difference being it's Joel and "the new girl" who didn't report in.

Now Abby at least feels like a character and her motivations can be unraveled while Ellie goes on her revenge quest.

I dunno, I'm not much beyond the courthouse but I feel like a huge sin on the narrative isn't so much that Joel died but how poorly it was built up. If players were given time to play as Abby and get to know her a little bit, the sudden betrayal might've hit way harder.

Or maybe I'm a stupid dumb dumb.

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Does Sparkle count as a doggie because Sparkle is also good

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There's also the concern over Naughty Dog supposedly mistreating its employees

@Crimson Paladin

If this was an issue that many gamers drew a line against, more games (hell, even some movies) would be review bombed or boycott. Probably ineffectively but that's the internet for you. I'm not saying crunch is good - far from it - but it's an issue that is easy for some to use as a shield. Even some of the people going around shit posting are doing so with the whole "LMAO CRUNCH FOR THIS AWKWARD SEX SCENE? WAS IT WORTH IT CUCKMANN!" and all that nonsense. Obviously, yes, people do care about it but it's not at all a leading factor in the review bombing and the, like, two months of discourse about the game with the leaks. And it certainly isn't much of a factor critically despite all the articles about Naughty Dog's practices. But Kuro said it better.

The problem when something gets review-bombed or otherwise brigaded is that it makes actual discourse about the thing considerably harder and that's unfortunate. For all I know, TLOU2 does have a bad story, but I don't think a bad story makes a game bad - unless it's a bad visual novel or something where story is the point - and TLOU has more going on than its story. _{Which is a shame that what it has going on is Naughty Dog's boring gameplay}

Anyway, here's hoping Ghost of Tsushima slaps.

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To be fair, they do it to films, too.

@Inkarnate

They do, yes, and it's just as stupid and pointless

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Gamers constantly want video games to be taken seriously as an artform (they aren't) but at the same time they will review bomb a game while posting hate speech and ranting about agendas and kinks and it's like do they not understand that this is why the basement dweller mentality still exists.

Anyway, I've got no intention of playing TLOU2 since I didn't like the first one so seeing the assmad rage it brought out is hilarious to me because, like, it's not even worth getting so assblasted about.

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With a new Skate game being made we truly live in the era where meme posting on social media gets things made.

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New Pokemon Snap is happening Nintendo finally got everyone's letters

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At this point the most surprising thing is that it has a fairly normal name for a Kingdom Hearts game. 'Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory'

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I can't believe they're making a Kingdom Hearts rhythm game and that it's going to be both canon and a follow-up on KH3's ending.