Fallenreaper

Blood Act I~ Ghosts of the Past

EliteCommander said
As long as psychomancy isn't underpowered in relation to other bloods, I'm fine with it. Ssarak has already experienced a considerable nerf from when I thought of him, but strength is more of a secondary attribute for the character anyway. The concept of misdirection and mental manipulation has always been my long-term goal.

I understand that, I do but I also don't Players penalized because of their PCs. You know how hard it is to steer a PC to a certain goal, namely by yourself, when it's not logical in their PC's mind set?

Blood Act I~ Ghosts of the Past

Lucius Cypher said
That might have been a typo, but I think they meant Psychomancy Warding Class; it helps mages protect their minds from Psychomancy attack. Kind of like a mental self-defense course. Ran by Satori obviously. Classes available to all students who'd like it, though Psychomancers will obviously have this course part of their curriculum. As for Psychomancy as a whole, we're discussing it's effects. The mind is a different beast from the body, so we the GM's are discussing balancing acts.

My electricity did go out once or twice last night so yeah it likely is, and as Lucius said, we're discussing some balancing acts. Mainly because of a nasty result I had as PC that's currently possible with this type of magic. *shudders*

Frettzo said
Will you guys release a list with the classes that will be available for our character to take while out of screen? xD

I think I can work with Rtron and Lucius to create one, what do you two think?

EliteCommander said
Wouldn't it be completely counterproductive to restrict this class from being taught after that display? Wouldn't the students want to learn that after going through that demonstration? And I can definitely see how psychomancy is difficult to balance. On the one hand, it has a lot of potential, but on the other, you don't want to have something that can make it completely useless (unless all bloods have something that can make them completely useless. Then it is fair). Psychomancy seems so interesting to me, and it is one of the things I am the most excited about.Also, my internet has been fixed.

Khan wasn't going to restrict it form happening but rather have someone else teach other then Satori. No offense, Elite, after this event how many Students do you think would realistically trust the one that hurt them? It's like asking attacker to teach you how to avoid their style of fighting after they just beat you to a bloody pulp just for kicks. I know logically I won't trust them to teach me the right methods or something that's useful against it for that matter.

Psychomancy is difficult to balance which is true. It's also one of those magics which creating boundaries can be hard as not everyone's mind is the same, like in the case of physical, and there's not a simple quick fix for everyone.

As for that something that makes all bloods useless, runes are able to. However there's many flaws with Runes that prevent them from being a cure all type thing or too OP. things like damaging the rune can null or even warp the effect back on the user. If you place it within a protective barrier to prevent damage to it, then you're only able to have it perform minor magic (simple like flesh hard as metal, prevent certain magic effects, etc.) and is more limited in area which is affected. (Usually only the area of a limb or person depending on how many and the written effect.) Not to mention there's the character limit which can create loopholes in the magic itself because the effect isn't mentioned in the negation or even include one's magic if you're too general.

Example:

Say you create a rune to prevent a vitamancer from shattering and breaking your bones with a look.

The rune, if I remember right, depends on a number of word symbols which can be carved into the rune and often has a max number. For this example let's go with 4 max, which include a subject or target, action or effect and the item itself.

Going with a general description would something like this: Vitamancy (which is the affected target) Negation (which is the action) Ring (which the item and the thing the affect is attached to)

Now with this effect, you've eliminated the problem but you've also prevent healing or shape shifting part of Vitamancy from aiding your PC while they wear this ring. To alter that, you can add another word:

Vitamancy Offensive Negation Ring, this stop all offensive vitamancy. However, if your PC is a Vitamancer then you can't preform any Vitamancy magic of your own since the ring wasn't told to differentiate between the magic attacking you and your own. See what I mean?

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Lucius Cypher said
Probably. She's a side character anyways, but I guess I just have a way with elevated the status of these types.

In the Collab post, you'll get an idea of his current mood once Echo and me finish up with it.

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Lucius Cypher said
Oh no, she's more than willing to do it herself. After all, she is the head teacher; why should she bother doing all of this if she doesn't expect at least a few to try to stop her? Of course she'll have some helpers in case one of her students plans to try to get vengeance on her, but as the Psychomancy teacher, she knows when this will happen pretty much all the time. Unlike others who can't take the feedback of reading the minds of everyone in a room at once, Satori can take it peacefully, even picking up whatever bits are important to her. I assure you, while Psychomancy does not have direct applications in combat, it does not make the user useless in a fight. No magic should when properly mastered.

....You really don't know Khan's feelings on this matter but she'll get an idea in private, after the Feast closes.

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Lucius Cypher said
It's a matter of preparation really. "Willpower" is just raw material, without any form of tempering it's moot against a decent Psychomancer. So long as your brain has a pulse (And even than) and Psychomancer can break your will. How easily depends on their skill, and maybe if you've been taking your required lessons.Basically, take Satori's classes, and you might stand a chance. But you want to rely on your own "Willpower" or the assumption that you're "natural" ability will pull you through? You're gunna have a bad time.

Yeah... she might not be teaching those after her little stunt, one of her older and more advance students might but not her.

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Freeshooter92 said
I just don't wanna be 'mind-slaved' and then kicked to death as I whimper on the ground. Come to think of it, I don't think that should happen to anyone.

Calm down. I might have a solution to this and what not, but Rtron and Lucius, I need to talk to you about it in the Plot PM.

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Freeshooter92 said
But if you don't have a rune, there is no defense. And the common folk don't really have runes(At least I don't think so). Even a strong will matters little.

Yes but if you learn to create a effective warden in your mind to prevent entrance. Also once you realize it's a illusion then it would lose all it's meaning since it can't hurt you, beside Lucius made Psychomancy as more of a supporting magic then a purely offensive magic and likely to change to bring it slightly more into balance.

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Freeshooter92 said
Not sure why there aren't more Psychomancy guys. It's by far the most powerful.

Until a rune or other magical artifact stops the magic dead in its tracks, then the psychomancers are left with only physical attacks.

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Freeshooter92 said
...I think they did that. Srsly.

As I said, I wasn't morbidly creative right now so I'm only half assing it.

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The Irish Tree said
You ever seen a man's arms collapse into themselves because some buff dude jammed his thumb in his ribcage? You ever seen a man's head literally turn inside out from same dude tickling you?Fist of the North Star is scary shit.

Nay. I can do worse with vitamancy when Mar becomes a master.

Merely a look can cause someone's ribs to push outward, ripping and tearing skin as the bones straight outwards exposing the heart. One could collapse it, one chamber at a time, the thumping pouring blood into the lungs while it feels like needles (those very, very tiny ones) are being stuck roughly in. Skull could collapse, the brain crushed to a pulp while eyes bulge and blood spurts out to run down the face. IF feel really creatively I could slowly cause the jaw to rip itself free and have it dissolve into the chest cavity. Though I could list more, I'm not currently feeling too morbidly creative at the moment. Beside, Fist of the North Star isn't in Blood Act.. so what's the point?