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@Dynamo Frokane That's alright.

So the Hylo Empire has a sort of religious connection to Mecha, yeah? Maybe they have a different vernacular and actually call them Colossi, giving them a verbal quirk that's pretty easy to spot out.

Do you have much fleshed out for their religious beliefs?

I would suggest that they have an order of monks who maintain and repair their mecha(or Colossi, if you take my suggestion on that). It may even be that a Hyloan(?) would refuse any other mechanic who wasn't a member of that order.

@Gisk

Yes the higher ups of Hylo still call mecha colossi, although after the war many of the citizens are becoming disenfranchised with the empires almost theocratic and opressive regime, so many average citizens reject traditional religious norms. I want to incorporate your ideas for Hylo but only for the royal family and upper class, as many of the citizens are poor, uneducated and angy at their queen. Feel free to add more to the Colossi religion, your ideas are good. Hyloan sounds like a good term as well.

The Therux state are a democratic society that is more interested in the advancement in technology and world peace which is what has put them at odds with the Hylo Empire all these years. I also added a timeline in the original post.

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@Dynamo Frokane I would actually suggest that, rather than a progressive tier of straight up best from worst, the mech tiers each have their own advantages and disadvantages. And in turn, all tiers are available to players, so that they have some technical variety.

My suggestion would go this way, though feel free to adopt as much or as little as you like:

Suggestion

Mk I: Old fuel based systems that run on diesel(or, in some cases, gasoline). Forms of these mechs have actually been in use for centuries, but most of the ones in use today were made in the last four decades.

Advantages

Range and versatility. A Mk I can be refueled basically anywhere that's even remotely civilized, and so they are a godsend in the Fortune Region, where Elementus is basically inaccessible most of the time, and overhead Solar Orbital Farms(SOFs) are rare.

Weight and armor: Mk I's have the highest maximum weight capacity, and can carry a lot of armor, or drag heavy loads.

Cheap: They are inexpensive to build, maintain, and repair. In fact, many pilots are able to enact temporary fixes on the fly in the middle of a battle.

Disadvantages

Speed to weight ratio: More than the other two generations of mecha, the Mk I's get dragged down by heavy weight. The heaviest class of Mk I is basically a fortress on legs, but it can't move fast enough to keep up with a modern battlefield.

Fuel: Though their fuel is universally accessible, it takes up a lot of room and doesn't stretch as far. A Mk I uses a lot of its precious weight ratio on gallons upon gallons of fuel, and a long battle could force them to retreat for refuel.

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Mk II: Built using advances in battery and generator technology, the Mk II's replace piston and gear driven joints with servos. They are able to more closely emulate organic forms, to make machines that appear humanoid, or mimic animals.

Advantages

Disadvantages
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Mk III:

I'll finish this write up later, if you decide you want to adopt the idea.

@Gisk

Hey Gisk, thanks for the idea, though I will be sticking to the Mk Tier idea for now, I do agree there needs to be versatility among the players mechs but that will be decided with a stats system that I will get into later. The Teirs heirarchy is more of a story and plot device particularly when salvaging parts or facing enemies.

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and you guys from FoF if you are interested in joining/inputting on this @KoL@Gohan@Cojemo

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Open to input from @Skepic for this!

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@Dynamo Frokane

Ok because the reason I ask is because I have a mech (meant for stealth operations) from another rp I tried joining that had special camo armor meant to hide you. basically it's based on the ADAPTV armor that the military is currently working on but regular camo would work for this. Would there be advantages for being from a certain country and disadvantages as well?

@FallenTrinity

Okay regular camo it is then, should be fine.

I'm just about to get into the specifics of the nations now, ive added some pictures for flavor.
Basically mech technology is largely globalised, so there isnt much you wont be able to access no matter where you are from. But there are three levels of mechs you could call these 'teirs' there are:

Mk 1
Mechs based on fuel, these are largely obsolete in modern combat and havent seen much use since the Western Wars of around 45 years ago. However they are incredibly cheap to make and many low level security mechs run on feul, they are usually slower and and prone to over hearting and combustion as well as burning through fuel fairly quickly in high impact confrontations. One mecha type that is still used is the Mobile Armor style dreadnaught class. Huge expensive tank like machines that can only run on fuel (largely due to costs) that are rarely seen but very difficult to take down. Mk1 Example

Mk 2
These make up 80% of mechs in use, the standard of modern conflict. These Mechs run on generators, which can vary from Fusion cores to Solar powered to electricity or a combination. They come with none of the shortfalls of Mk1 mechs an enjoy almost unlimited activity with no worry of overheating or meltdown (although there are fringe cases) the life battery of generator is self sustaining and as long as it is maintaned can fuel a mech for years before needing to be replaced. Also because of the amount of power generated Mk2s can employ heavier armor with lighter engines that fuel based mechs would not be able to support.

The pinnacle of the Mk2s are those that are equipped with the aformentioned 'Hybrid Generators' as these are the most expensive but generate the most power. The Mk2s are what the players will be using and are generally known as Mk2+ and represent the fighting elite pilots in the western world.
Mk2 Example

Mk 3
Finally the mecha that run on pure elementum are the pinnicle of modern mech design, everything a Mk2 can do the Mk3 can do better, raw elementum generates almost 5 times as much power as hybrid generator, and the amount of speed that can be generated from an elementum engine is blistering. Elementum is nigh indestructable so there is no danger of overheating or failiure and the life span of an elementum fueled engine has so far proven to be infinite. Also the engines are so powerful that they can be made super compact for even lighter weight and sharper performance. The only real limiter is the cost it makes to make a raw elementum engine so these machines are ridiculously expensive. Usually only afforded to the very top class operatives of the northern frontier.
Mk3 Example

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Hylo Empire

From the Coast & Mainland

Description

The Great Hylo Empire is on the west coast of the Western Landmass, and takes up less space on the map than the neighbouring Therux state but has a higher population. The Hylo were the first people to really utilise solar energy and have the monopoly on the world's Solar Orbital Farms, which have made them very self sufficent in their long and storied history. The Hylo empire is also built on pride as they are a religious people who believe in the mythical Colossi great titans who used to roam the earth before humans did. They believe that Mecha technology is divinely inspired by their holy ancestors to once again walk the earth in large metal giants.

They have been in small conflicts with the idealogically different Therux State almost since inception but that has only ever come to a full scale war once, which was called the 'Western Wars' which the Hylo Empire technically won but were left too weak from battle to take over any territory and called a truce with the Therux.

The Empire is currently run by the very proud and somewhat megalomaniacal Barval Royal Family, which queen Elizibet Barval is currently the ruler of after the recent death of her husband King Remington Barval.

Post-War

After the war the Hylo empire seems like the best place to live on the surface, the strong economy allowed the empire to recover and traces of structural damage from the conflict has all but dissapeared. This has somewhat justified the intense pride of the country's leadership, but has done nothing to quell their jingoism and paranoia. The Hylo empire continues trade with all nations but is staunchly opposed to not only immagration but also emigration. They refuse to let anyone in or out of the country which has made the already poor and opressed worker class of Hylo feel very unsafe and disenfranchised with the empire and there has been many rouge human smuggling operations to get people out of the empire and immigrate mainly to the fortune state. The Hylo empire is also pouring a lot of resources into their military, almost certain they will be attacked at some point.

Therux State

Theme Song: Journey To Peace

From the Coast & Transport District

Overall Description

The people of Therux were never interested in war. The Therux state has always been the progressive and scientific nation, interested in the advancement of the human race, and truly believing in a democracy that the world can subscribe to. Sadly, this progressive way has fallen on deaf ears with the other reigons. The Hylo empire have too much resentment towards their Therux neighbours, along with the fact that their nation is steeped in pride and religion that is incompatible with the Therux culture. The Northern Frontier are delibirately isolationist, and have no desire to engage with other nations much less collaborate with them and finally the Fortune Reigon enjoy the freedom of their varied settlements and find a government too oppresive.

Therux has done well to invest its resources into nature and leads the world in the trade of vegetables, wood, fishing and medicine. The lush feilds and gardens of the Therux land are the envy of the world and through trade they provide 67% of the world's food and nearly 40% of its medicine. Like the rest of the world they do use mechs, although a very large percentage of their mechs are not primarily combat based, but instead 'worker' mechs to tend to farms and mine for precious ores, they have an effective but comparitively small military.

Post-War Description

Therux still enjoys the fruits of its nature based economy, but after the war, it shows the most scars of conflict as seen in the coastal pictures. During the Frontier invasions the Therux state was usually the battleground as invading forces would usually enter the western landmass from the east. Not only were many peaceful citizens killed, but the already weak military and security forces were nearly wiped out, and after the ceasefire, the criminal element inside therux began to grow because of the weak police force and generally 'soft' progressive government. The leadership of Therux has grown to resent Hylo despite the coalition as they feel they were dragged into a war they didnt nessicarliy need to have due to the ambiguity of the 'Helen Tower' incedent. Now the once hopeful state is plauged with civil unrest, lack of security and a very active and dangerous drug smuggling trade born from the criminal tampering with the medicinal chemicals.

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@Dynamo Frokane

Would technology be advanced enough to allow specialized camo like chameleon camo or light refraction camo?

@FallenTrinity

Hmm right now I'm going to say no, warfare is going to be fairly straightforward. Stealth/Espionage tactics wouldnt be used by mechs as they are too large and loud. So camoflauge would only be viable at a distance where regular camo paint would suffice.

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@Dynamo Frokane

So the Northern Frontier is economically devastated, but physically largely untouched.

The two nations of the Western Coalition, meanwhile, were likely the main stage of the conflicts, and took the brunt of the beating. But, as the Northern Frontier is starving, who has food and raw resources to sell?

Both factions have something to gain by keeping the peace, but it's bitter. It sets a good stage.

So the question here is, how did this conflict get started? The power imbalance comes from their resources, those Elementus stones(let's get some more description on that, I think), but who struck first? Perhaps one of the other nations couldn't pay a debt, and the Frontier decided to take what they were owed by force in the form of land. The other saw the opportunity to join forces and the Western Coalition was born.

How does the Fourtune Region come in to play here?(Is that a typo? Is it Fortune or Fourtune?) I am imagining it as a sort of virgin territory in a war torn world, who is resisting the push by the other three powers to colonize it. The other three, meanwhile, are probably fighting over this virgin land.

So what kind of mechs are we working with?

Buncha pictures

General bipedal?



Vaguely humanoid?



Basically humanoid?



Or like, various animals like zoids?

@Gisk

So just to clear up these minor issues:

It is spelled Fortune, and the truth is that they had very little to play in the conflict, with no centralised government, they couldnt hope to even make a difference in any conflict as the only ruling forces are indipendent mayors and village cheifs spread out across the reigon. They trade with all 3 other nations with the understanding that each settlement in Fortune can stay free from colonisation and neutral of any conflicts. The 3 larger nations have had nothing to gain from bullying this tiny civilastions so global relations are somewhat cool. But there has been growing fear of the amount of refugees from the other states following the war, and a few of the towns and villages are beginning to fear another possible military conflict brewing on their own state.

As far as mech design, all of the above, I'm open to a diverse cosmetic look of mechs with the understanding that unless stated they will all perform roughly with the same combat potential. Think of heavy gear meets armored core. Minus any laser sword technology. All melee weapons will be made of solid materials. Plasma/Laser cannons will be in their relative infancy in terms of weaponry.

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@FallenTrinity@Gisk

Okay so once again some really great input, here is what I have so far on the war.

The northern frontier were not particularly warlike, but because of their need for food and basic living resources they had to trade with the two staes of the western coalition. Now because of their military might, their trade deals were quite agressive and could be considered unfair. Demanding ridiculously cheap prices for what they wanted and offering elementus at an insanely high price. Now the proud Hylo Empire saw this as economical warfare as the northen frontier was essentially dictating the market. The Hylo Empire was also the first reigon to utilise the solar panel farms as their main source of energy which was actually far cheaper and easier than trading elementus or buiding nuclear power plants. So they began to push back against the unreasonable prices with the frontier which created some tension but they eventually gained some leverage on the market.

The Therux state were somewhat more paranoid of the froniter stockpiling large mecha armies, and after seeing the pushback of the Hylor Empire, they called for an end to their rivalrly and proposed a coalition to stand up to the northern frontier if they ever tried to attack. Unfortunately this coalition and build up of a huge joint army made the northern frontier very nervous and while trade continued both reigons were ready for war. The military conflict was sparked over a small skirmish between Frontier and Hylo Mechas in the fortune reigon over the builiding of a tower. The Hylo forces claim it was a defense garrison that the frontier were trying to expand military structures in the land, but the frontier claimed it was simply a generator building to refuel scout mechas in the largely undiscovered territories. No one can confirm truly what the building was but due its ability to start the world's biggest war, it has been called Tower of Helen.

The Hylo forces destoryed the Helen tower and the frontier forces fought back in a small skirmish with zero casualties, but the act of agression was enough to send the fully paranoid northern frontier into full scale war with the Hylo Empire which now was backed by the Therux state. The war was largely the frontier sending invading forces to the western lands and being beaten back. While the strategic nightmare of attacking the northern reigon made any offense for the Western Coalition nigh but impossible. No territory was lost, only soliders, civilisations and mechas. But the war went on for so long that it turned the world into what it is today, an economically damaged dystopia, with crippled armies on each side constanty in fear of another war.

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@Gisk

Questions:

- What would the time era be?
- How far ahead is the technological advancement? I understand there are mechs but to what extent is the technology?
- Is there a possibility that former warriors from these nations have defected to this area?
* If so, would any of them have managed to bring with them any tech with them (mechs, advanced weaponry etc.)?
- Are there or is there a orbital navy?
- After the war what is the state of each country?
* What are the governments like?

I got other questions but id be interested :)

@FallenTrinity

Thank you both for the questions and suggestions, this is exactly the type of brainstorming and intruge that we need!

1 and 2. So the Time Era I'm having as 2235 on a planet called Orio, it is in a solar system with other undiscovered planets that are only just beggining to be visited. As mentioned before there are 3 masses of land and the planet is about a 3rd the size of the earth. The technology is advanced in terms of energy sources and mecha weapons but civilisation and living standards are pretty desolute because of the conflicts basic technology is only moderastely more advanced than ours and a lot of the planet is war torn.

3. if you mean this area to be the fortune region then yes, a lot of refugees, criminals, soldiers, adventurers and business owners have left the respective 3 major states to start a new life in the wild lands. But the small towns and parishes lack the wealth and prosperity of the larger nations and many operate as mining and farming villages. Which can be dissapointing for a mercenary looking for a brand new life.

4. There are satillites but no space army, as space travel ironically is still in its infancy although mechas are fairly advanced.

(Also I'm going to add the solar farms to the world's technology, amazing idea!)
5.

So the nations are as follows: (WIP)

The Northern Frontier
Theme Song

Outer and Inner

Overall Description

The Northern Frontier is the most difficult place to live, the reigon is plagued by below zero tempratures all year round, vicious blizzards and magnetic storms. This has forced the inhabitants to become very tough and adapt their technology to survive such a hostile enviroment. This has made their army and engineers very disciplined and tough. Also despite the lack of basic resources the northern frontier is rich in a special material that is now invaluable to the modern world. It has the largest natural supply of the Elementus stones which can be harnessed into conduits of massive energy which most modern mechas now run on as apposed to old style nuclear generators. The ice covered mountain reigon is also a strategic nightmare to attack. Most invading forces cant even FIND the frontier structures in the blinding blizzards let alone mount any attack on the icy peaks. Also all ther living areas are buried deep underground as seen in the inner photo. So while the northern frontier maybe a harsh land with the lowest population, it reigned supreme with a cutting edge grasp on technology and a large mecha army in a strategic heaven of a home field.

Post-War

Although the region was never succesfully invaded, the frontier lost large swaths of its army being constantly repelled by the Western Coalition. It was a war of attrition and over time the northern frontier was not only losing soldiers and mechs, their trade routes were being stifled particulary raw metals and food which the northern lands do not have much of. Because of this, as the soliders died in battle the citizens of the military state began to starve and flee as rations became thin. Ultimately they gave up their campaign to destroy the western coalition and thus brought zbout an uneasy ceasefire. The Northen frontier are now a diminished but still elite fighting state which has spent the last 8 years inactive on the world's stage slowly trying to rebuild its small population.