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Heroic said
Now, who said you couldn't believe that the gift of immortality wasn't granted to the first intelligent humans (Adam and Eve)? Who said you couldn't believe that they soiled their gift of immortality with their foolishness? And the rest just falls in line.Name one reason that you have to take it literally. And Jesus was not a metaphor because there are historical texts that confirm his existence.

Jesus' existence as Christ. And the reason I have to believe it is because God's word tells us so! Why even bother being a Christian if everything in it is supposed to be something else??

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whizzball1 said
that kind of sounds condescending and jerky [insert unsure face here ooh this works ]

Not meant to be, but it gets the point across. You all know that I'm very cut and dry when I'm serious.

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Heroic said
I have literally posted this before in OOC, word gor word: "I'm not saying you have to believe what I believe, but I am a theistic evolutionist..." And from the particles created from stardust, for the beginning of humankind, and death + human decay.

Name one reason to believe that Genesis should be taken metaphorically. Why don't we take everything as a metaphor, like the Gospels? Maybe Jesus was a metaphor for human goodness, so if you do what you believe is good, you gain salvation.

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whizzball1 said
Genesis is specifically meant to be taken literally. Sven, one of the biggest problems with believing in Evolution is that you instantly believe that Jesus died for no reason, death was not our fault, and it in fact was part of God's clearly spoken "very good" creation. If we say that Evolution is true and works in tandem with the Bible and that Genesis is not literal means that death was always here, and was not the fault of sin, and therefore Jesus was atoning for nothing. Jesus becomes meaningless, morality a silly idea if you really look at this worldview. And would God allow death to be part of his very good creation? If he used evolution to make the very good creation, then he would have to use death, and thus it would not be very good.

In addition, we have souls while animals don't. Where would be the point that God said "Okay, give these guys souls and spirits?"

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whizzball1 said
Yeah, I remember recently learning that a theory was, in a more formal (or informal?) definition, a proven set of facts that described how something worked, while a law described why. Thesis could be more accurately applied to evolution, and evolutionists would call creation a thesis too (but we have the advantage of knowing it's not a thesis, but a theory! :D).

Well, a hypothesis is baseless, while a theory is not. That's why evolution is a hypothesis.

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Heroic said
No, no it didn't. But I don't take it literally. I mean, I have literally mentioned this before and there was no problem, and now that I suddenly find that I have something in common with my dad, it's a bad thing.

Never to us. And if it was metaphorical, then why did God say "From dust you were created, to dust you will return?" We don't devolve after we die, we turn to dust.

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whizzball1 said
ok

It's technically not a theory by definition.

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Heroic said
Mine too, when I found out that I'm instantly uncool because I believe in evolution.

Then did Genesis lie?

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whizzball1 said
im not being a jerk i just tried to make a pun of the study itself (not you ur my friend)But seriously, how on earth could you possibly believe in Evolutioh? It is completely incompatible with the Bible, there are countless evidences against it and for creation, and it's practically the Swiss cheese of theories. You've seen us talk about creation and evolution enough to know that it's quite clearly an incorrect theory.ikrkewl

Hypothesis*

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whizzball1 said
wait i thought of somethinglutionhuh huh do you think its good i think its good

That's perfect. So using that.