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@Skepic Are you still alive?
@Prince of Seraphs Yeah, but Dagon came after she'd already had her falling out with Summer, so it wouldn't have been for that.


At the bottom of his bio is said she had a thing with Fall not Summer.

Belle said earlier that Arys and Feoras met briefly again afterwards, apparently. Don't ask me why. I'll change it back to Fall otherwise.

As for Dagon and being given the sword, he's sworn his soul to Arys and gave her his full true name willingly in exchange for losing his memories of losing his family, There's basically no realistic chance for him to betray her on his own without somehow annulling his pact. Who better to trust with a powerful artifact of winter than someone who is basically bound for eternity?

Again though, if Runic or someone else says the word, I'll just treat it as a named sword.


@Belle Do correct me if I have made a mistake but I believe that following their break up the only time that Arys has seen Feoras is at the Moot of the fae leaders. I doubt very much with how prideful she is she'd go to Summer and I believe Feoras showing up in Winter would be heralded with the words "Off with his head" followed by a very bloody war between Summer and Winter.

As for the sword I think it has much less to do with if the person receiving the sword is trusted and much more to do with how stable they are. Fae artifacts are treacherous and devious and want more than anything freedom, much like actual fae. When possessed by someone they will do anything they can to manipulate or control the person that has them into releasing them from service or getting there own body or whatever their goal might be. They are powerful but extremely dangerous. Thus giving a servant such a relic would depend less on how trusted they are and more on the ruler's estimation of how well they could control such a persona. No offense but a newly turned seasonborn, very young for a fae with relatively weak powers, no memory and a frozen heart sounds like the perfect candidate for a relic to take advantage of. He is very much the ultimate blank slate and as long as the relic doesn't make him think it is going against the queen it could I think easily take advantage of him. I don't want to argue that point and you don't have to defend your character, maybe they are strong enough to handle it but my point is from the position of a ruler giving such a dangerous weapon to someone that from appearances could not control it is a foolhardy move.
@ProPro I should have seen that coming.
@Everyone, I'll give @Happy Go Lucky seven hours to respond. After which what I do with and to his character is entirely my decision. I'll have a post up before the dawn of a new day.
@TemplarKnight07 Arys dated the Summer King not Fall.
>Midnight Squad

what were they even gonna do


Fuck some people up.
Is Swansong the only Team that hasn't gone through a name change?
Ooh, an idea~ @TemplarKnight07, to avoid needing magic to get there, he could have gone to one of the most famous magical sites. Or possibly several, on a trip across Europe. And he gets to Stonehedge, and -- it's open! Maybe the rulers just left, or at least it wasn't too many hours before, or maybe it's the right time of day. The witching hour might work (think that's midnight?) The reason he didn't go sooner could be because he's had to save to afford the trip, plus he wasn't old enough to travel overseas alone. ...Might need to be a little older for that to work, actually, or perhaps he lives in England but didn't feel ready for a trip until recently. It is a big step, and best to be fully prepared if you encounter unfriendly creatures.


I should note that Stone Henge is cordoned off. Even on paid tours they only let you within about ten feet of it and you are not allowed to touch it. It's a very very old site and they don't want it destroyed over the course of the next fifty years by tourists wearing it down with their touch it taking small stones from the circle. The fae being there is excusable as they could charm the mortal guards away or appear invisible and unnoticeable but I mortal teen wouldn't be getting in there.
I know! I was just saying that if she happens to die or something i wouldnt mind making a new character

o-o;


*starts to make evil plans with evil hands*


There's a few things I wanted to ask about. I'm just going to go through it piece by piece, it is the easiest way to keep things straight in my head. Not all of it will be strictly relevant to actually having the character accepted as that is LadyRunic's department but most of it would probably be good to think over just so the details look right.

Though the majority of the fictitious and scary stories dealt with people making deals with malevolent demons and ultimately losing their souls in exchange for their powers, he did find accounts of slightly more benevolent beings, Faeries, or The Fae or Sidhe as he came to know them as he dug through more "true" accounts.


This isn't really so much a grievance as a note about the character but by whatever criteria he discerns accounts to be "true" or not there should by the nature of the fae be just as many accounts of people losing everything to their faerie deal as there are accounts of them getting what they want from good natured fae.

Though many of the stories and accounts were fragmented, had crappy translations, or were in some cases just complete bullshit, he did manage to discern several important aspects about the Fae. One, that they were incredibly varied in personality within their seasonal courts (though his knowledge only extended to the Summer and Winter dichotomy, as humans in their simplistic interpretations mostly just lumped Spring with Summer and Fall with Winter) leading to Fae that were potentially both benevolent and malevolent in their own abstract ways. Two, most of them feared iron, especially cold iron as it apparently was more deadly to them than magic, with even small amounts causing them great pain and had been used in the past to ward off Fae Folk (Gideon reflected that this explained why iron probably gained more prevalence in antiquity as a human tool and why the Fae hadn't just conquered their world forcibly). Three, some Fae loved word games and riddles as tests of intellect could be just as serious duels as ones with swords, and that words held great power among the Fae, that promises and wishes had to be abided at the peril of the one making them. And lastly, four, that there were ways for the Fae to enter the human world, and for humans to enter the Fae World, even though most encounters involved child snatchers with both benevolent and malevolent Fae stealing away Children to make them into Changelings or other "monstrosities", there were others of Faeries of different kinds falling in love with humans to various effects, and of ancient sages communicating with the Fae or entering their world to do so through ritual.


Assuming that whatever information available about the fae rivals that of what is on our own internet the fact that he could get all of these points exactly right seems rather unlikely. If you couldn't tell by me being here I'm rather a fan of ancient folklore.

Your points essentially boil down to this:
One: Fae reside in two Courts, Winter and Summer, Summer is kind, Winter is vicious.
Two: Fae fear iron.
Three: Words hold special power in the land of Faerie.
Four: Humans and Fae can cross into the other's world.

I'll grant you that these are all very common interpretations but they are far from the only common themes and a thousand and one variations of these themes exist through folklore, games, novels, legends and so forth. The idea of separate courts ranging from the names to temperament of fae that live there, the effects iron actually has on a fae etc. My point is that Gideon is a high school student. You have yourself said that he does his research between "homework and scheduled events" which means outside of faerie research time he has a life that takes up a good portion of his time and given that he has a life he's not traipsing around various areas looking for fae or interviewing locals about anything so his research basically boils down to the internet. With that as his only source being able to say with confidence "this is true and this is false about the fae" makes him either very arrogant or have incredible tunnel vision regarding his research. You can find sites that say fae live in four courts, in two, some that say the Seelie and Unseelie courts are a figment of human imagination and the fae live together as a single people. Some sources that say iron burns them to the touch, others that they cannot cross an iron barrier such as a fence or even a train track. There's theories regarding salt, leaving gifts for the fae in exchange for favors. Throughout history the fae have gone from deities to sprites to spirits to ghosts to mischief makers to demons to monsters and back again.

My point is that with a nearly limitless supply of information all of which from one source or anything contradicts itself at least a hundred times how can Gideon be so certain about these specific points regarding fae culture and nature?

Eventually, he reached a point just after his sixteenth birthday where he felt he was ready to try and attempt the ritual. He had learned and memorized some basic Gaelic incantations, managed to scrap together some arcane symbols and designs that replicated the far older arcane geometry of the standing stones, and he had spent several months meticulously setting up an ad hoc ring of standing stones within an old growth forest fairly close to his home and quite secluded. He had spent a huge amount of time ensuring the mathematics and measures were precise, he was smart enough to know how potentially dangerous this ritual was even if everything went right, he was terrified of what would happen if he did it wrong.


My above point about this stands as the chances of him pulling the correct ritual out of what must be sixty five billion different recipes from various sources is very coincidental but my real question is this.

Now @LadyRunic if you could weight in here cause I'm going into an area of lore that is a bit sketchy but I'll give it by best shot. If I am wrong about this let me know. I believe though that magic performed by mortals who haven't been gifted it by the fae is incredibly unlikely to the point of none existence. Most rituals of ancient times that the pagans used to open gates to the fae world more likely were simply messages to the other side altering a specific fae that they were asking for his or her help and if the fae was in a good mood he would open the portal himself. That or else they cracked open already existing tears between the two realms, just widening them to the point where anyone could walk through rather than one person simply falling through by accident and that particular tear never being found again. It would be the same reason fae gates were built where they were, Stone Henge, Avalon, etc, they simply stabilized and amplified a weakness in the veil between world already present. Otherwise as I have to assume Gideon is not the only fae fanatic in the world everyone would be trying to this and because in your version it seems to take no special skill, specific placement or consent from the other side thousands of humans would be pouring into faerie monthly.
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