LeeRoy

Arena Chat Thread

The debate is pretty silly because it has to come down to those that are particpating have to agree to the same or similar ideas to whatever they are trying to do.

Both would have to do more math or it won't work. Like I'm freeform to the core but trying to hang with the t1 crowd here seeing if there are people that are fun to game with.

But the point of it is, unless there is an understanding going in it will devolve into bs no matter what.

@Enki

Yeah, you're kinda right.

Arena Chat Thread

@Dazsos
Call of Duty uses numbers.

Also the series except for Modern Warfare is garbage.

Arena Chat Thread

I agree with you in some regards, @Darth

But in the two or three years I've been here, I began this weird love hate relationship with numbers.

I joined and I refused to do numbers. And got a lil' pissy when the whole numbers thing was dropped on me.

I then wholly accepted numbers. And got a lil' pissy when I saw that numbers weren't being used.

And now once again I reject numbers. And I'm realizing the error of using numbers to the degree that we do, and I'm kinda pissy about it.

I get pissy alot.

Why?

This exact argument that I've had a few times: (These are extreme examples, but he was AT THE TIME, THE HOST OF THE MULTIVERSE. SO IT COUNTS.)

"Even though you let your teammate charge for eight whole turns, because the two of your characters are so much weaker than mine, it doesn't kill them."

"Your character is weaker than mine on the character sheet. So even though my character doesn't have supernaturally strong eyes, it doesn't hurt their eyes."

Edit: Third Example, same guy. "I didn't read your character sheet properly, didn't know that you could do that. Got caught off guard, and should have died. But because I'm stronger than you, it just knocks him unconscious."

Trying to equate strength is the most unassailable bastion of dumb logic I've ever seen though. Because we always wind up trying to calculate how much force a punch is going to have behind it. We always try to explain how hard a character who can lift 100 tons punches. And always wind up in these calculations that literally require a calculator to do.

If I'm doing math homework while writing up a character sheet, I'm not happy.

If I'm having to do math homework to post one fucking time? I'm really not happy.

If I'm having to do math homework just to chance at not losing a tournamnet? I'm fuckin' pissed.

If I describe a character's strength, I'm not going to go outside of the bounds of the relative strength I've listed. I'm an asshole, not a cunt.

I'm not going to cheat, and honestly, nobody else should be inclined to.

Honestly, every time you get into a fight aren't you already expecting the individual to play fair and uphold that honor system? Otherwise you would avoid the person and any fights related to them so you have to have some trust from the start to even battle them.

@Fallenreaper

Quite literally this.

If you don't trust the person that you're roleplaying against, then why are you doing it?

"What about tournaments?!"

There's a reason why I reserve my more unpleasant characters for tournaments, it's because it's going to force you into a situation where you aren't going to trust the person you're roleplaying. (Eventually.)

It should be an honor system, even in a roleplay with a person you can't trust. If you can't trust them, force them to feel like a piece of shit and stay in your self assigned lane.

I'm not saying that you can't do it, like. If you adhere to the Marvel Db's listing of Ton Classes, that's fine. But like.

Don't try and calculate how much force goes into punching a hole in a brick wall.

Fucking.

Damn.

Arena Roleplay is about Rule of Cool.

Math isn't fucking cool.

Arena Chat Thread

Hell with it, I've reached coffee/insomnia synthesis again. I'll go ahead and make my point. I'll read the longer posts while I'm doing that.

Arena Chat Thread

Literally this entire argument and discourse about math and numbers is why numbers need to be gone. This is a full page of multiple paragraph long posts trying to grind home the idea that math makes this whole thing fun.

It doesn't.

This whole math thing is what alienates new players, much the same as the anti-gun sentiment alienates an entire genre of character.

I'm willing to argue this, but it's 1:30, and I'm gonna sleep before I do that. My next post will detail my point.

The Robot Uprising?! (Cee Fatalis vs. Virtuoso)

@DLL Posting either later tonight or in the morning. Got tomorrow off so I've got time.

I figure that you knowing my schedule should help you out. I'm NORMALLY off Mondays and Thursdays. But I'm an Intermittent, so my schedule sometimes bounces.

So you know when I do and don't have time to post.

Create-A-Hero: A Superhero RPG (Closed)

You know, now I HAVE To suplex somebody in this roleplay.

@MelonHead Babe, plz.

Create-A-Hero: A Superhero RPG (Closed)

@VATROU
*Suplexes you instead.*

Arena Chat Thread

@Vordak
Except no? The difference in a character is the difference laid out by the writer. Give your character something that makes them different and even two characters with the same power can play totally different.

A quantifiable value of numbers leads to two people who can wield fire on a similar scale, except one will ALWAYS WIN because they can shoot theirs a foot farther and ten degrees hotter.

Arena Chat Thread

Continuing my previous thought though.

After seeing the error of my ways, we need to cut the number bullshit out. Like. For real.

Trying to quantify this shit in numbers literally makes this as boring as trying to balance a MoBA when you're the programmers.

We need to universally stop trying to use the number system, and work our way back to an honor system.

Where we can stop saying: "My number is bigger than yours, so you have to stop it. Because I'm beating you up at a higher number than you're beating me up."

And start saying: "Good game, you outsmarted me and were a good opponent."

Like, damn. I can't believe I didn't realize this sooner, and I feel like an idiot for it.