Legend

Myriad Reality

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I agree. You don’t think you can stretch that to a limit though? Things with components consist of things with components, and that’s true up to a certain point until you eventually get to the point where you find the thing that just is what it is, the smallest thing. The universal component. Easiest example is matter itself.

@Valiance

Axioms, of course. I cannot further reduce a statement I declare to be true.

Myriad Reality

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That’s exactly what I was getting at.

@Valiance

If that were the case, I would ask who or what determines whether information is meant to be uncovered. Every truth is reducible to its constituent components, and to deny its own proof, somewhere must exist a contradiction.

Myriad Reality

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In a sick and maybe contradictory sort of way, do you think that attaining that data is never meant to be? Only in the sense that sometimes, some things are actually not possible.

@Valiance

Ah, it could be unprovable. The idea that the solution isn’t “meant” to be found is ironically similar to the concept of destiny itself.

Myriad Reality

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The data you'd like to have? I'm sure that's just all of it, if only it were possible.

@Valiance

On a grander scale. In this case, only data relevant to determinism.

Myriad Reality

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*Snaps and points*
I'm sure it always is for you.

@Valiance

Unfortunately, the data I'd like to have is not always within reach.

Myriad Reality

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When looking for data, sure.

@Valiance

*Chuckles*
Short search.

Myriad Reality

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Despite overlap in both camps. It's fair, don't get me wrong, but ideological impacts do also influence practical ones.

@Valiance

I would argue that the question is different when looking for empirical data.

Myriad Reality

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Which makes sense when you consider it. Intuitively.

@Valiance

It does. I typically study the practical effects rather than the ideological impact.

Myriad Reality

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People who don't believe in destiny, or at least believe it to be insignificant like I do, tend to have ideals, goals, and plans with the motivation to actually act on them. Not universal, but a trend nonetheless.

@Valiance

Perhaps our perception on our own ability to change the world around us inherently alters that very ability.

Myriad Reality

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It's definitely a way to get a pointer on someone's character.

@Valiance

What trends have you noticed?