LegendBegins

Myriad Reality

DarkwolfX37 said
“If you end up with a boring miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest, or some guy on television telling you how to do your shit, then you deserve it.” ― Frank ZappaThe same is true of misery.

And I find it ironic that throughout everything, we seem happy, and despite all the rebellion you set forth, you never seem to be.

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I'm not replying to that long thing, but it mentions lying in so many other areas, and I highly disagree with the interpretation.

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DarkwolfX37 said
So you're saying that god did necessary evil?

No. I'm saying that it wasn't evil. Killing isn't evil, but murder is. It must be justified, such as in battle or self defense. We've been over this countless times.

DarkwolfX37 said
You can respect someone without doing what they say. That's not an issue of respect, it's an issue of fear and obedience. I know that the bible says they're the same thing, but they fucking aren't.

Um... No it doesn't? It says to obey them, and it says to respect them as well. Although swearing really isn't necessary.

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Heroic said
*Takes a detour*We have to find the guy.

What if he's behind they crystal?

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DarkwolfX37 said
Then I refer you to the other option. Tell them in careful detail of how exactly they can remove their head from their ass. Or straight up ignore what they say. You've got the right to do that.

He owes them respect. Paul said he first commandment with promise is to obey your parents.

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DarkwolfX37 said
" Two other cases of lying were when Abraham, out of fear, told the king of Egypt that Sarah was his sister and not his wife (Gen. 12:11-20, 20:1-12), and later Isaac did the same thing with Rebecca (Gen. 26:7). Some again say that Sarah was Abraham’s half cousin so he was technically correct. Once again, the intention was to mislead. What was interesting in both these cases is that God had to intervene to bail them out. "Defending a lie is a lie David. On a side note, the devil is a murder? He killed 10 people throughout the bible. God killed millions. You cannot claim absolute morals and then say that immoral acts are moral just because someone in power did it.

Uuuggghhhhh. First of all, we've been through the demeaning thing. Second, God didn't lie in either of those cases; the Old Testament is a history book full of sin. It tells us what they did, not what we should do. David cheated with a woman and killed her husband, and suffered for it. Next, God did not murder them, but he sent things to destroy them because 100% of humanity was evil. Lastly, the devil has killed more indirectly. Just think about it instead of bringing these to me when you know my answer.

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Heroic said
Do what?*Doesn't stop*

Go deeper!
*Theres a dead end with a giant crystal*
Oooohhh...

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Heroic said
*Continues to follow some set path down further into the cave*

Actually, why didn't we just do that in the first place?
*Follows*

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DarkwolfX37 said
Then you get into all that muddied shit about withholding information = a lie; etc.

Withholding information isn't lying. It's deception, which my parents do not approve of, but it's not.

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DarkwolfX37 said
Remind me again of why god gets to lie then? Of why almost every holy person in the bible lied? Of whenever it says that lying is a sin?

First, God never lied, and I don't understand why this simple concept never seems to get through to you. Second, John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and stayed not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Bible talks about lying a lot.