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Myriad Reality

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Both the answer I expected and the one that cleared up the least.

@Heroic

Sometimes the most correct answer is the one we knew from the beginning.

Myriad Reality

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Is that because they're giant or because they're squids?

@Heroic

Yes.

Myriad Reality

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You think so?

@Heroic

When you get too far in the depths, things stop making sense. Like giant squids.

Myriad Reality

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Except from my point of view Planes weren't a fringe mechanic until the World said they were a few posts back. I assumed, perhaps mistakenly, that it was actual lore that just wasn't heavily explored but still possible.

And yes, admittedly I pushed the idea even then, but that's because I'm passionate about it. Which is better I think, than me coming back in and dropping out a few weeks later due to a lack of interest.

@Caldizar

Sure, and I think it's fair that you want it how you're envisioning it since it is a passion. But one of our bigger concerns is that using Planes will end up locking him out of interaction because of how unexplored the concept is. And sitting there with no one to interact with isn't fun for anyone.

Myriad Reality

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Not on the scale at which the source says he operates. Now I know some of that is changed or lost, for all roleplays really, but I once again want to play him how I described. If your lore doesn't prevent it, why not overengineer a bit since it is a workable idea?

Like, by putting him at a scale that he doesn't really belong in, you realize that just limits the freedom of creativity this roleplay touts right? And I'm trying to compromise here to boot, I've said how I'll play him, tried to find solutions, so you can't say I'm being entirely unreasonable.

@Caldizar

Because it's not a limit to creative freedom—it's a solution to prevent a situation that gets arbitrarily more complex than it needs to be. I don't consider it limiting to say that there's an existing mechanic fits better than a fringe mechanic that isn't really used right now.

Myriad Reality

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I dunno, man. Feels pretty surface-level.

@Heroic

It probably is. For good reason, too.

Myriad Reality

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Is this hard to comprehend? Actually here's a question, why if there is no issue, should I bother trying to alter what I want to play to fit the lore of a roleplay when a viable solution already exists?

Again, your own lore gives a solution, why won't you take it?

@Caldizar

It's not hard to comprehend—it's the fact that him getting sick of his own dimension or cluster works equally well and avoids overengineering a problem for a characterization goal.

Myriad Reality

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It really doesn't. I already explained how only he in his Plane knows of other Existences, and how all he's done is erase all evidence of his existence there before leaving, but whatever. I've repeated myself more than enough as it is. I really don't get what the problem is. The lore can work just because of how you all wrote it, and you have no problem with my ability to play an OP character, I've said using his powers to just win isn't my goal here...

What more do you fucking want?

@Caldizar

Because the problem isn't your ability, his powers, or even his journey as a character. The problem is that it's bending MR's framework for no reason other than insistence that a CYOA justifies it. I can cut/paste each instance of Plane/Existence with 'cluster' in his story and it works just as well, so why bother going for an unnecessarily complex solution to a simple problem?

Myriad Reality

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Look, I just want him to be a Living God who came to hide out here because he got sick of dealing with everyone's shit in his own Existence, before realizing that the right thing to do is go back and rise to the occasion rather than run from it. That's literally all I wanted to do with him. Yes, I'm aware there's a million ways to tell that tale, but I've yet to tell it with a character like Zachary.

And again, lorewise I already had this talk with The World, and agreed that it was just another Plane using the terminology here. So still fitting the definition of a Verse without overwriting what's already been established.

@Caldizar

A goal that works equally as well by making him the god of a cluster whose left his home for another.

Making it a Plane brings about a lot more complications seemingly arbitrarily.

Myriad Reality

Look, I get not everyone can play a god properly, but after several years and several thousand posts, I think I'm capable of doing that without stepping on anyone's toes. And yes you might mention the whole comment regarding Ded, which at most was a boast and a joke, as I doubt they'll ever cross paths. Even if they do, I feel like Zachary is the kind of guy to just annoy him by refusing to die, since he has equally dark and evil beings in his own Verse that he's dealt with before. Like, at this point he'd seem them the same way you do an edgy teenager.

@Caldizar

Your ability isn't my concern. I'm sure you're more than capable of making an OP character be fine, but I'm mostly interested in why there needs to be any exceptions to MR's structure, when to me, a CYOA works perfectly fine within the dimension system that we have in place. I'm not convinced that they're incompatible by nature, particularly because the system was designed to be compatible with everything.