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To be fair Rand does have 3 women madly in love with him for literally no reason I can determine. It must be going around because Lan and Nynaeve are also magically in love by divine fiat and no other reason. At least Perrin and Faile are halfway believable.

@Penny

Yeah, the romances were a huge stretch. I found the Aviendha romance kind of believable, and then the snow thing with the body warming trope was just dramatic enough for me to think it worked.
...But then she still wanted Elayne to be with him, and he still had a thing for the other two girls, and it brought all of the other romance arcs flooding back and I felt it was way too much.

Am I crazy or do you think that a lot of WoT characters would be better off with ones they didn't end up with?

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It wasn't even the Dragon part, though Rand did fully accept it once he had proof when he pulled Callandor from the Stone of Tear. It was kind of surprising how he went from 0 to 100 after that lol.

I more meant stuff like in book 2 when Rand kept denying he 'isn't a bloody Lord!' And while that was technically true, you could easily tell he meant it because he didn't think he was worth it rather than him lacking the actual title. But I can see you kind of felt the same lol. I'm mostly thinking, if you've survived Darkfriend assassins, cursed daggers, met with the Magical Women KGB U.N., survived the Blight, killed Trollocs, met with beings you never knew existed, and then a princess takes note of you and you're like 'Light! But I'm just a farm boy!' I'm like "DUDE."

I will say the denial could be very funny. The first time I read it, I thought it was hilarious how Perrin thought Rand was such a ladies man compared to him, and Rand thought Perrin was such a ladies man in return. "She kissed me. Rand/Perrin would know what to do right about now. He's always been great with girls."

Oddly enough the female cast didn't have near the same denial. Sure it was there somewhat, but they seemed way more stubborn and fiery and would look down their noses at rich lords because...Idk. @0 Azzy 0

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To be fair, Gandalf doing that to Bilbo did not have Bilbo agreeing. He was simply too polite to refuse 13 guests and then after hearing their plight and pretty much denying it, he acquiesced after they'd already left and regretted it near immediately.

It actually irked me how Rand, Mat, and Perrin were still in denial of what they were doing after the first book, much less the 2nd and somewhat the third. I love The Eye of the World because I felt like it was a lot of various fantasy adventures in one. I think after half the book, even a normal person wouldn't be in such denial like they were. @0 Azzy 0

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I'm very glad the destined hero thing is not used nearly as much, nowadays. I'll probably read the book at some point and give my 2 cents when I do. It sounds entertaining.

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Under a section labeled "Character strengths" he has written "He is amazing at everything he tries. If needed, he could learn and entire language in a day and a half or get officially certified as a musician on a lute with a broken string.".

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That's better than some power players I've known, sadly enough.

If we're going to use the RPG comparison, I think the difference between being a power playing Gary Stu and just high leveled is the explanation behind it. For instance, I can see Matrim Cauthon in WoT being a good staff fighter with a high charisma modifier and bluff skill, but it was the DM's that gave him his A class strategy mind by leading him through the the doorway in Rhudiean (if that is the reasoning. I'm rusty). And he got the cool anti-magic medallion. These being given to him through the DM's story, so to me it's not so much of a Gary Stu problem because it had to be earned and experienced.

Ran I won't even touch, and Mat/Perrin are Ta'veren so they're lucky in general, but I do feel like the latter two had some of their abilities explained and gained throughout the story. Same with Egwene and...well maybe not Nynaeve.

My question is, did Kvothe ever have his abilities explained or gained, or did he start out great at everything?

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Of course, this is all if I'm 'Andy.'

@Andreyich

Yup, that's you. Thnx bby

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@Penny Ah, I see.

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Sorry dude, but I got a nat20 with my +1 bullets of penetration.

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Just wondering how you felt on it is all. I like George W. as well.