Vilageidiotx

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That's actually interesting. Speaking of which, where does Yeezus fare on the political spectrum?

@ChickenTeriyaki

nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/08…

Objective fact and sympathy/empathy--let us discuss difficult subjects with both!

@mdk

I feel similar to what @Odin thinks.

The benefits of Democracy is limited by the knowledge of the voters. Socrates compares society to a ship in an example...

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In order for Democracy to be beneficial, the voters must be informed of the issues and the best way to deal with them. Without knowledge, many things can arise from Democracy. Hitler, for example, was able to exploit the fears of the German people to the point where his party had total control.

@Lurking Shadow

The problem with the Socrates quote is... well, lets pull it out of its context. Socrates in this particular situation isn't necessarily the philosopher himself, but a character in Plato's Republic, where Plato's concept of an ideal society is developed. It's based on the idea that you can create a meritocratic natural order, where an upper level of "Philosopher Kings" can be nurtured to rule.

The problem is that you cannot make a meritocratic natural order. Plato's Republic amounted to saying "It would be great if we always made worthy people into Kings, so we should do that", which is nice sounding, but it's quite Utopian in reality to expect an aristocracy to work that way. Whatever problems democracy has regarding education, dictatorship also has. If the history of Kings and Dictators was a history of meritocracy, sure, we could stick with it. But in reality that history is a history of Carlos IIs and Neros.

In a democracy, the failures can at least be rectified by the reaction of the populous. With Monarchy you have to hope that the next role of the dice is a good one, whereas in a democracy the population itself can intervene through... democracy. And it has worked out that way. Buchanan, the 15th President of the US, is considered the most incompetent in American history. He is directly followed by Abraham Lincoln, who is often rated our best President. Democracy is a good system because it is reactive like that.

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Do people do [thing I don't like] unironically?

@Andreyich

There's don't like, and there is just being a goofy stereotype. Like...



...really?

2020, a reminder

DARTH VADER: "Luke, you have a very nice figure. I've said that if you weren't my son, perhaps I would be dating you."

LUKE: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

.v.

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do people read conservapedia, like, unironically?

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-Health insurance and gasoline prices are also going down. As well as prices for food at local groccery-stores (especially milk/cheese/yogurt, which is dropping in price faster than gasoline)

@Foster

wat

charts.gasbuddy.com/ch.gaschart?Count…

ycharts.com/indicators/milk_price

you can argue that nothing much has happened despite the president, but to argue that America has become a paradise on earth because of him is batshit tbh. i mean, you might as well say that the cheese is cheesier and the tits are bouncier

also, the AHCA hasn't passed yet, so healthcare is a weird thing to choose since Trump hasn't done anything pertinent. Which is neither her nor there because I haven't seen anything about it dropping and have personally experienced no change in my premiums. Googling healthcare premium drops hasn't really produced helpful info to refute or support the notion.

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Yes, but is he narcissistic enough?

@KnightShade

Kanye? Yeh. He's really the best out there for a Trump equivalent. The idea that he would become President isn't that super funny now, it's just more of the same.

Now if we are going to go next level, we gotta swing into some next level shit. A Ted Nuget vs Tommy Chong election would be there.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I come to check on this thread after being gone for a few days, and...

You said ephebophilia is pedophilia, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the chronophilia class ephebophiles, which means you'd call nepiophiles, teliophiles, and other sexual attractions pedophilia

@Andreyich

2020, a reminder

Some could certainly argue that Donald Trump is destroying the presidency.

HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE!!!

@mdk

I was daydreaming the other day how great the Mustafar fight would be if it were rewritten with current political lingo.

OBI WAN: "Anakin, Chancellor Palpatine is evil!"

ANAKIN: "From my point of view, you're value signalling."

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Kanye's gonna win the next presidency. Calling it now.

@BrobyDDark

You joke, but it's possible. Kanye is a political outsider, a poor public speaker, and everyone has seen his wife naked. Par for the course.