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In short this is a thread meant to divine what those Bleach fans on the Guild would prefer in regards to a Bleach RP. To start it off I'll give several question as well as the basic end goal of this thread, and any that may follow it.

Thread Goal: Gaining an increased understanding of the Guild's Bleach Community.
Overall Purpose: The creation of a Bleach RP that, with few exceptions, will suit the community mentioned above.


Questions and Answers

Herein will be questions that need answering, as well as those that have been answered--by either myself or through discussion among others. Later on this will become the RP's FAQ.


Q: Will the RP include canon characters--playable or otherwise?
A: No it will not, the RP will be decidedly AU with mention of the canon characters being either minimal or non-existent.

Q: Would people like to be able to create unique histories and their own lore (royal families, factions, races) at some point in the RP?
A: ????

Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?
A: ????

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.
A: ????

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?
A: ????

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?
A: ????

Q: ????
A: ????
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I'm certainly still interested in a Bleach RP. Might as well throw my two pence in.

Q: Would people like to be able to create unique histories and their own lore (royal families, factions, races) at some point in the RP?


Royal families, sure. Races, not so much - Bleach already has six trillion different things that haven't been utilised much, so there's plenty of things to play as.

Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?


It's certainly nice to have the option.

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.


While I don't have a problem with any particular race, the sheer number of potential races can make organising things incredibly difficult. I suppose if there was a large playerbase, we could get away with it, otherwise it might be best to limit things a little.

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?


I wouldn't mind either way, really.

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?


Depending on how things go, one per faction could be a good choice, if only for variety.

Q: ????


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Yay, thank you for your responses Roxas! Any other questions you want to pose? It's nice to add them to the thread for additional discussion! :)
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Im all for a Bleach RP (surprise)

as for the questions posed above there is one id like to react to and that is the one that i would like to limit the races to shinigami and arrancar with perhaps quicies or vizards much later introduced if there is enough interest in them
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Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?
A: I would!

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.
A: I think we should limit the races a person can play to Shinigami, at least for the first part of the rp.

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?
A: Controlled by the GMs

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?
A: I say one, but that's only because its easier to follow what's going on, in my opinion.
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Would just like to say i've been wanting to get back into Bleach for awhile now, so I'll give my input.

Q: Would people like to be able to create unique histories and their own lore (royal families, factions, races) at some point in the RP?

Families and such like the Kuchiki bloodline etc. is fine I think, it adds depth and history that wasnt there otherwise but races are already in excess especially without a large playerbase.

Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?

I dont really have an opinion on this other than leave it up to the collective group to discuss i suppose.

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.

Again without the playerbase behind it you have to think small, Shini and arrancar. Then maybe introduce other races as the story progresses maybe arc wise. Even then if they wont be an integral part of the universe you create it may not be worth it to make that race playable.

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?

A mix of both can do well event wise, such as the introduction of a new villain, plot, theme -- the GM can step in to guide the rp along as fit. There has to be a certain structure since you have multiple players come in with their own ideas on their characters progression. which is fine but en masse can become unorganized.

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?

Maybe 2-3 initially and if the load isnt too much they can possibly add on. However I think additional characters after that should be limited in how often they appear or are played as.
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Alright, thank you for all the feedback so far! It's helpful for me to figure out how I ought to structure things in the future. Keep 'em coming and feel free to ask me any questions or pose questions for everyone to answer.

The more things we cover, the better I can make this ^_^
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Well I'm going to go ahead and put my two cents in this because I've been looking for a bleach rp to play again. My character never got a chance to blossom and I owe it to my character.

As for the questions themselves:

Q: Would people like to be able to create unique histories and their own lore (royal families, factions, races) at some point in the RP?

A=royal families, and factions yes races that's iffy because of the depth you would have to go through to explain how they are part of the story. For example if your playing as a arrancar and the current arc is about the Shinigami and their political issues then it makes it impossible for that person to really play into the story.

Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?

A= of course! I don't think their are many bleach fans who don't watch or read blah that don't want their own story arc

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.

I think it all depends on the story the gm wants to tell. I prefer visor but that's just me

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?

A=at the gm discretion best they control the villain unless this villain is for a single characters story arc in which case I suggest a middle ground of how it will play out but the gm will control the villain.

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?

either one per faction or a limit of 2-3 characters. So that way if someone can't post the entire story isn't at a standstill
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I will throw my thoughts down, later. On my way to school right now, but I'm definitely interested.

A quick note before I walk into the very pits of hell: I found the idea that Blackbeard highlighted in the rp he briefly made regarding "snowflakes syndrome" to be quite important, I.e. that rare powers should be, well, rare.
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Yay, thank you for your responses Roxas! Any other questions you want to pose? It's nice to add them to the thread for additional discussion! :)


I suppose... what kind of limits would be imposed on abilities? I would assume anything that takes direct control from someone is rightfully off-limits, but anything else? My main Bleach idea involves mimicking others' abilities and such.
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Q: Would people like to be able to create unique histories and their own lore (royal families, factions, races) at some point in the RP?
A: Yes I'm totally okay with that, but I feel it should be within reason so we don't end up with a new Ichigo.


Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?
A: Yes again, but once again only if it is within reason

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.
A: I would prefer to play either a Shinigami or Quincy.

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?
A: A mix of both. I would prefer if the GM handled the bigger villans, but the minor ones can be controlled by whoever wants.

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?
A: I would say one per faction or 2-3
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Hello! Remember me? Lol

Q: Will the RP include canon characters--playable or otherwise?
A: No it will not, the RP will be decidedly AU with mention of the canon characters being either minimal or non-existent.


Seems like you answered your own question.

Q: Would people like to be able to create unique histories and their own lore (royal families, factions, races) at some point in the RP?
A: ????


Royal Families, yes, with moderation. Nobles are usualy uncommon. As for lore and faction, it depends. If it is building off something that is left unclear in the cannon, then I don't see a problem. But if it is random like inventing a race of thermorphic demon werewolves, no.

Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?
A: ????


That is completely up to the GM. It might be fun to in tie in the plot to character's backstory, but I am unsure about a player leading their own arc.

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.
A: ????


No preferce, although, Arracars were pretty specal curcumstances, so I think no player characters. Visards were very unique, so I would say highly regulated.

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?
A: ????


GMs.

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?
A: ????


Yes, but in captain's cases they need to make NPCs to fill up slots in thier squads, and general NPC are needed everywhere.

Q: ????
A: ????


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Hmm.

Q: Would people like to be able to create unique histories and their own lore (royal families, factions, races) at some point in the RP?
A: Well, sticking in nobility seems fine. Maybe giving some of the squads (plausible) specialities. But making up whole factions and races? At that point you're not doing a Bleach RP, are you? xD

Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?
A: Side-arcs, sure. Noooot huge plots that lead to the GM not... GMing.

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.
A: Shinigami. You have a nice organisation where people have a reason to know each other, and they're in a central position to deal with absolutely everything. Good power variety without being too 'and now what?', as well.

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?
A: Mostly GM's. It just... drags if players have villains as well, as then there's likely to be more stagnation and undefeated villains (especially when, with Arrancar etc., you expect them to die off)

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?
A: No hogging top spots? Obviously there's a reasonable limit to how many flunkies you can consider actual characters, though.
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Um... What @Raineh Daze said basically. ^^;

Might try and finish off the "giantess squad 11 captain" idea I had from a previous Bleach thread that unfortunately died before it could start, but we'll see how things turn out. ^^; Either that or figure out another new idea but we'll see. XD
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Q: Would people like to be able to create unique histories and their own lore (royal families, factions, races) at some point in the RP?
A: I'll parrot what everyone else has said; families are fine, but new factions and races seem like they'll complicate the existing dynamic.

Q: Would people like to have the chance to lead their own Arcs later in the RP?
A: Nah. I just can't see it working out well. Chances are they would just end up centering around the person's own characters.

Q: As Bleach is a verse centered around conflict between factions and inviduals, it stands to reason that an RP based on it will also be as such. The question is, what races do people prefer to be playable? Shinigami, Arrancar, Quincy, Spiritually Aware Humans, etc etc.
A: Shinigami. Just Shinigami, at least for now.

Q: Would people prefer the story's villain faction to be playable, or ought they be controlled by the GMs entirely--or is a middle ground best?
A: Just the GM. Again, I suspect player villains will just try to steal the show from everyone else.

Q: Should there be a limit to how many characters a player can make?
A: I agree with Raineh Daze; any positions of power should be one per customer.

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@yoshua171 If you are able to get this off the ground please implement the point system of the previous one. it was awesome
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@yoshua171 If you are able to get this off the ground please implement the point system of the previous one. it was awesome


What is this 'point system' you speak of?
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@Raineh Daze

as shown here: roleplayerguild.com/posts/119542
but then also with the allocations which i cannot find (example: "at least 90 points into Zanpakutou to be able to use bankai" and "at least 100 points in kido to be able to cast up to number 70 without incantation")
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Going to vote against a stat system if it comes down to it. ^^;
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Yeaaaah, ad hoc stat systems are a pain.
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