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Since I suck at cartography, about how many miles inland is the water along the GA/SC coast there?


About twenty miles at the wide point betwixt Savannah and Charleston i'd say.

anyway, here is my app.

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When everything came apart, Nicaragua experienced the same travails which plagued most third world countries. The government was not equipped to handle the disaster as refugees fled inland. A lack of facilities, not to mention food and water, was complicated by the large number of displaced persons the government found itself responsible for. A desperate measure was passed in order to handle these duel problems, and a mandatory work detail was forced on those who did not fit into the surviving communites. Those forced to work were those made homeless by the destruction of the coast, mixed in with the jobless and prison-bound populations. There was another smaller group included in the mandatory worker population; foreigners. Two Caribbean cruise ships had been forced to dock on the east coast just before the sea swept in. This left the mixed foreign crowd of local Caribbean visitors, and American Businessmen and agents, to be combined with a crowd of listless tourists. It was the later that would lend their name to the pejorative native Nicaraugans would eventually give to all the mandatory workers; Turistas.

The mandatory worker laws were originally meant to be temporary, but the government never managed to get a handle on the situation. The collapse of the world economy ruined the currency of the Nicaragua, and the resulting inflation caused the surviving government to grind to a halt. It couldn't pay employees and enforce laws. Sheer inertia kept it going for several years, but its acts grew increasingly desperate. It was in one of its final attempts to reach solvency that the Nicaraguan government inadvertently set up the early beginnings of what would become the state and civilization of Moskito. Desperate for income, the government "Rented" the indefinite contracts of the Mandatory Workers, the "Turistas", thus turning a legislated emergency measure into a form of commercial slavery.

It did no good, and the government soon disintegrated. Without the law, those wealthy landowners who could afford to buy the contracts of the Mandatory Workers were forced to defend their property. They converted some Turistas into paid guards, and also hired their poorer neighbors for similar duties. Food and basic manufactured goods shot up in value as the remnants of old civilization were consumed, prompting those with money to put their Turistas into the hard work of making the damaged land arable again.

When they realized their situations were to be permanent, the Mandatory Workers attempted to force their freedom. This event would become known as the First Turistan War. It was a brutal affair, fought mostly in the lowlands along the Moskito Coast, and it was this conflict that sharpened this new form of society by creating a strict dividing line between classes. The landowners, their lives threatened, constructed a middling class of soldiers and freemen to divide them from the Turistas, who were degraded to a permanent slave cast with fewer opportunities to crawl out of their predicament.

The following generations went by with few events. Civilization in the highlands disintegrated and grew sparse. Small-scale manufacturing replaced what scavenged material was lost over time. A reliance on steam-power and other antiquated forms of energy replaced the old fossil-fuel based economics. Worried about another Turistan War caused the free classes to relearn the military arts. Land was cleared, and harbors were slowly constructed to make up for the difficulties caused by violent tides. With the old government gone, a new form of defensive government was put in place under the office of Mariscal. The Mariscal, elected by the members of the landowning class (now being called the Sangre Azul), was given command of their combined military forces, and legal jurisdiction over anything considered necessary for the defense of their people.

Their worst fears were answered during the command of Mariscal Juan Vicente Duque. The Turistas rose again, armed by a rebellious Sangre Azul from the south named Palo Paz. Paz died in one of the first battles of the war, but his rebels saw no reason to surrender to punishment reenslavement, so the war continued. Mariscal Duque developed new military techniques during this war, including the return of field artillery in the form of mortars and small rifled cannons.

The final battle was fought along the Kama river. The Turista rebels had been pushed south and surrounded at the coast near the sunken ruins of Bluefields. In their attempt to break out of the attack, they made a fierce assault on the Moskitan positions near the river. In the worst of the fighting, when it looked like the battle could go either way, a sick Mariscal Duque got out of his sickbed to help push cannon across the river for the last advance. He fainted and died on the field, but despite his death the battle was won and the Turistas were forced back in enslavement.

The Duque family has since received an almost religious devotion from the people following the death of their great relative nineteen years ago. In the same way the first conflict created their form of society, the second one had created a renaissance of construction and societal advancement. Juan Vicente Duque's brother, Antonio Duque, served as Mariscal for eleven years after his elder brothers death, until his own death of heart disease. The last eight years has saw Juan Vicente's son Juan Aureliano Duque serve in the higher office. Aureliano is an uncompromising man, known for his strong mind and personality just as much as he is for his strong temper. Under his command, long-distance trade has began to flourish, and his interest in architecture has brought several large building projects into the works. Steel-sided steamboats patrol the sea, while military reorganization brought on by his father seems to guarantee the Turistas will never revolt again.

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Here's Tampa on the map. Will get to actual cool shit soon (I kinda have a haircut right now.) PREPARE FOR BANDIT FLORIDA.

Name: Tampa Bay Colonies

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History: The American South is bandit country. Instead of adapting and overcoming as a nation to live together in lesser conditions, largely local groups instead banded together to squabble over the remains of the old world. One of these were the Tampa Bay Colonies, established around the Tampa Bay in west Florida. Tampa as a city grew exponentially over the years leading up to the cataclysms that ended the old world: government contracting related to the US Central Command's decades-long operations in the Middle East provided opportunities that attracted ancillary corporations and workforces to the growing city. Tech companies, responsible for putting hardware and networks into space, needed new offices. Manufacturing firms for space-age technologies wanted headquarters where they could rub shoulders with CENTCOM generals. High-rises, many of them upscale, were needed to house the influx of (some say overpaid) contractors. Tampa offered the perfect solution.

It being situated on the inside of the Bay of Mexico, west Florida was spared from the severe tsunamis that decimated much of the East Coast from the Atlantic. This, however, was not a miracle save. Meteorites impacted throughout the country with incredible force, causing explosive damage to parts of Old Tampa. When the sea levels rose, this very same part of the city was swallowed by the ocean. While a few highrises stood above the waves, their days were numbered. Over the decades, they have grown more and more unstable from the seawater's corrosion and have been known to collapse. New Tampa, build on higher ground, remains the secure bastion of Tampa's survivors. They live in these buildings, interconnected, safe from the environment below. From here, the "government" controls its outer territories: the ruined suburbs painfully captured from bandit populations.
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I guess I'll drop this here for now. Still trying to settle on a backstory. Made the flag myself in MS Paint and am proud that it looks decent.



Nation: The Ecumene/Emerald Monarchy

Location: Oil rigs off the Gulf Coast. De Facto control of (roughly) the green areas. De Jure control of much of the surrounding waters.

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I'm so tempted to make a rival Neo-Mayan state in the south around Tikal.

We shall play ball.
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I look forward to all the posts about calendars.
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And hopefully no posts that go into graphic detail on the bloodletting.
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Graphic detail is my middle name
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@Vilageidiotx @ethanjory @Nerevarine @Byrd Man @RWDS @Shorticus @Chapatrap @Pepperm1nts @TheEvanCat [@Blue_flame] @Arawak

As a special notice I'mma be launching this in full tomorrow. Or to normal people: Saturday Afternoon.

So get your shits together.
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I got one post ready. After that, I got me some overtime for a while so imma be a tad distracted. Once that runs out, and it probably will soon enough because nobody ever likes to pay much overtime, imma get hella shit done.
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I'm not worried about you, it's everyone else.
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o. im worried about me tho
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I'll go ahead and bow out. I can't pick a location, let alone a solid idea to accompany it. Didn't mean to be a tease.
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I'm still doing some research, so I may be a few days slow to making a proper entry. Re-reading the Popul Vuh (well, I may watch this hour long video on it instead), researching the terrain, figuring out what's changed, etc.
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I wonder if anyone intends to make something in Cuba or if Cuba will be full of NPC neo-tribal groups who worship giant stone heads of Fidel Castro.
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I'll go ahead and bow out. I can't pick a location, let alone a solid idea to accompany it. Didn't mean to be a tease.


For South Carolina?

Take the neo-confederate idea and turn it on its head. Have people who haven't retained much information about the confederacy but rather worships their flag in a sort of weird folk religion where Lee is a savior and Sherman a devil-like boogie man. Otherwise they reject all historical accounts as blasphemy and insist in a theological interpretation of the pertinent information.

Other idea that people might bring up for the rest of the world include ones I think I have mentioned before but i'll list them again if anybody needs a prompt.

-A Muslim state at Guantanamo founded by the prior inmates.
-A Jewish state in Florida started by retirees and the children who were visiting at the time.
-A cattle-based nomadic state in Los Llanos in Venezuela. Think "Rawhide" meets "Genghis Khan", but with Llaneros. It's just barely on the map, but you could push them up a bit.
-A only partially flooded Houston Texas is on the map. You could use them to reference the condition of Texas. Other interesting towns technically on this map include Vicksburg Mississippi, Jackson Mississippi, Montgomery Alabama, and Savannah Georgia. I can especially imagine a situation where the violence of the apocalypse puts Vicksburg back on the Mississippi and turns it into an important fort holding back scary barbarism from up river.
-It looks like Cancun is an island now. Government via Spring Break. Might be able to negotiate a spring-break city state from Shorticus.
-The Bahamas are ghost islands that only appear at low tide. Imagine them as a place where criminals from other nations are banished to, and forced to live a harsh life where they must sleep on rusty boats and scrape a sea-food based living on the shitty scraps of ground.
-The Panama Canal exists. Do something with that.

I also noticed the map only covers part of the Caribbean. Why no Puerto Rico? Why no lesser Antilles? I was going to say 'The American Government fled to Puerto Rico" but can't do it because it missing.
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The SC idea is interesting, I had a similar idea, just too on the nose for my taste.
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I also noticed the map only covers part of the Caribbean. Why no Puerto Rico? Why no lesser Antilles? I was going to say 'The American Government fled to Puerto Rico" but can't do it because it missing.


Well, you can still say that. You just can't play as them. Which is kind of a shame since the island is situated in an interesting spot and has a lot of colonial forts that would still be standing. I think including the oldest colonial fort that is under US jurisdiction, which is a neat fun-fact. The island is also small enough that it may have been spared from direct impacts. Tsunamis may have hit it but I'm pretty sure it's entirely above sea level so the waters may have receded afterwards, allowing for rebuilding.

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The SC idea is interesting, I had a similar idea, just too on the nose for my taste.


Understandable.

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Well, you can still say that. You just can't play as them. Which is kind of a shame since the island is situated in an interesting spot and has a lot of colonial forts that would still be standing. I think including the oldest colonial fort that is under US jurisdiction, which is a neat fun-fact. The island is also small enough that it may have been spared from direct impacts. Tsunamis may have hit it but I'm pretty sure it's entirely above sea level so the waters may have receded afterwards, allowing for rebuilding.


Yeh, the exclusion of that area seems strange. I get why the coast of Mexico could be seen as distracting, but the lack of half of the Caribbean is odd now I notice it.
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When I did up the map I did it as a perfect-square shaped canvas. I hoped to get the lesser Antilles in but the proportions on this shit somehow turned out a lot different than I had initially thought so most of it got cut out.

I could always go back in and adjust the map before I make the formal thread, so we have all of that.
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When I did up the map I did it as a perfect-square shaped canvas. I hoped to get the lesser Antilles in but the proportions on this shit somehow turned out a lot different than I had initially thought so most of it got cut out.

I could always go back in and adjust the map before I make the formal thread, so we have all of that.


Might not be a bad idea. I get the aesthetic reason for the choice but as a region this map is incomplete.
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