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You don't have MSPaint? Gimp?


Unfortunately not. I would download gimp but I, unfortunately, use phone which has the worst picture editing in any App Store.
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Unfortunately not. I would download gimp but I, unfortunately, use phone which has the worst picture editing in any App Store.


>using phone

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Yeah, yeah. I know, would use a computer if I could, but hey. I can write some pretty decent responses on Docs.
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@Dinh AaronMk

Only down side is, I have no way of marking the map .-.


At least you made it easy. Florida is Florida.
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At least you made it easy. Florida is Florida.


Indeed! I just want the state of Florida :P
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Also, my history is still a WIP, but a major part of it includes Wisconsin and Illinois being lawless areas, devoid of any real government. Basically, their governments would have collapsed due to the mass amounts of refugees fleeing East, and police being unable to stop the large-scale looting and raiding that would follow.

A large amount of what I'm planning for stories relies on them being lawless, and Michigan's government planning to restore order to them.

Figured I would say this now, so I can try to collaborate with anyone who might possibly join in the same area. History should be done tonight, at the rate I'm currently writing.
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Next time you up in dat map, go ahead shade in New Jersey and West Virginia as grey or something, because imma need those for storyline.
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Updated my app. There's an actual history there, now.
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@Shyri Do I sense some inspiration from Tell Tale's new season of The Walking Dead, with the New Frontier?

Also when we startin' this thang.

Oh, and merry Christmass to errybody.
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@Pepperm1nts

I tried looking for your app but I couldn't find it. Why'd you delete it? In any case I tossed you on, you were set by me.

@Shyri

I get the impression your app isn't entirely finished yet. So, what's going on?

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I never got a response over my concerns for either of you. What's up, you guys?
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Sorry, christmas and all that. Fixing this right now.
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Was the giveaway the missing name? lol

Same over here, holiday hell. I'll finish up the last bits tomorrow.
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@Dinh AaronMk I mentioned why I took it down a page back. Basically, I'mma re-do it in a more simple way. I put off doing it over Christmas but I can probably throw something together real quick when the RP starts. Note: The map borders may change.

EDIT: Oh shit, I just realized the RP did just start. I'll start working on the new app soon.
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Plop. It's done. Good enough.

The name's not too important, anyways. And it can always change later.
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The name's not too important, anyways. And it can always change later.


There are a few choices. If the government is Bureaucratic, they might retain "Midwest" in the name. If they want to reflect a region, native American terms might work. "Potawatomi" could be used, a tribal group originating from Michigan. After reading up on all the choices though, I have to say that if I were in your position, I'd probably use some variation of "Gitche-Gumee". It's a Native American term for Lake Superior, the translation meaning "Great Water", which is a pretty good description of the Great Lakes as a whole. It also in that Gordon Lightfoot song, which probably helped sell it to me.

Though really, Aaron would be better at picking something out for that region, since he's part of that culture and would know the terms preferred up thataway.
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The plan was for it to be led by a junta, under rule of a self proclaimed general.

I'll wait for Aaron's input on the matter, though.
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If you're primarily basing it out of Michigan then you might as well just use Michigan as the name. Alternatives might be Superior (which may have been the state name for the UP if it wasn't handed over to the state as a compromise deal to give up the Toledo Strip way back in Andrew Jackson's time; but even today there's a sort of cultural pride up north over the "Superior State" that sells flags at Wal-Mart).

You might also tag in a city name, which might be another easy solution; but it's Michigan so it hardly applies imo. Unlike New York State and New York City there's no real stand-out city to name this proposed nation off of. Detroit today is a shell of its former self having shed 60% of its population since the 1950's, and the other major cities - Lansing, Ann Arbor, Grand Rapids, Traverse City - are comparatively small when held against other major metro areas (Ann Arbor's a fun hipster and bohemian scene though, Grand Rapids for beer, and Traverse City for wine as an aside comment).

But to also add to what Vilage was going on with the Native American tangent they could identify themselves as Anishinaabeg, the plural of Anishinaabe which is the larger Indian ethnic group up here (comprising the Ojibwa and Potawatomi tribes among others). This might be a useful name to call one's self if you have desires to rope together the Great Lakes region since the Anishinaabe tribes covered the whole area and parts of Canada. They also all culturally have an immense attachment to water, but given the state is mostly Germans and Poles with Finns and Swedish people up north, I don't know if that applies so much; so it'd probably be used more as an echo of the back-then.

As an additional aside: I don't know if they'd take Chicago just to have access to Lake Michigan. They already have a city on that side with several naturally sheltered harbors: Traverse City. Mackinac Island would also serve as a premier launching or resting point at the boundary of Lake Michigan and Huron, it being off to the side of the Mackinaw Bridge and all. Mackinac Island also comes with its own pre-built fort which'd be technologically relevant again.
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*local history intensifies*
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I opted to just do a total rework. I wrote this at 3-am, so there may be some errors and honestly dumb shit. I'll review it when I get home from work tomorrow, since I'm sure there's areas that need elaboration, at least.

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The Superior Confederation

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History:
Following the fall of the union, the remaining Midwestern States banded together under the name of the Great Lakes Commonwealth, consisting of Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, and Ohio. The goal of the Commonwealth was to keep the American spirit alive, while also trying to support the border states of Wisconsin and Illinois. These two states had fallen on hard times due to the influx of Western refugees, and when the union died, it seemed like they would follow. Under the Commonwealth, however, they managed to hold on, and maintain order by the skin of their teeth.

However, a vote passes in Ohio. The people voted nearly unanimously to pull out of the Commonwealth, taking the path of independence. They had their own problems to deal with, and their own people to support. They didn't want their low supplies heading West towards a “lost cause” any longer, and officially broke ties with the rest of the Commonwealth.

With Ohio's population and resources made unavailable, the border states soon fell into anarchy, the government's unable to support the people any longer. Finding themselves the new border states, for all intents and purposes, Michigan and Indiana dissolved the union, following Ohio's lead. From here on out, they were fending for themselves.

After the Commonwealth dissolved, it didn't take long for Michigan's large metro area's to fall into chaos. The people in the more rural area's refused to send food to urban zones, refusing to let lazy city-dwellers leech off of the products of their hard work. On top of that, people were flooding in from Wisconsin, taking up job's on farms and fisheries, which created an even bigger demand for food.

It wasn't long until Michigan followed in Wisconsin's footsteps, and fell into anarchy, unable to support the population in this crisis. Many attempts were made to piece the state back together, but they failed, one after another. Amidst this chaos, the upper peninsula officially cut ties with the South, declaring itself an independent state, and securing Mackinac Bridge, preventing anybody from entering from the South by land.

Ten days later, Superior declared Henry Chambers, a former navy admiral who had been deeply involved in politics before everything went to hell, as their interim leader. The plan was to eventually hold a real election, once it was possible, with Chambers simply being a figurehead to attempt to solidify the state's existence.

Chamber's, however, quickly proved to be a strong leader. He sent out a call to arms, to any man who owned a gun, and was willing to help his nation. The plan was to take Northern Wisconsin, by force, in order to acquire more farmland. Hungry, and scared of failing like their neighboring states had, this call to arms had a massive turnout, and Chambers effectively had a small army behind him, rather than a militia.

When they began their march West, however, they quickly ran into a roadblock. Most of the territory Superior had planned on taking was already under the control of others, armed just as well as they were. Rather than marching in, Chambers went to meet the leader of this group, a native man going by the name Biskane. The two talked for hours, and when they emerged, they did so shaking hands. Biskane's confederation of tribes and towns agreed to join with Superior. They realized each others competence, and saw the mutual gain of working together, rather than fighting a pointless war. The two men formed a council around them, serving as heads of governmental parties, which had equal say in the governing of the nation. This worked well for a couple years, until Chamber's age caught up to him, and he died in his sleep, at 57 years old. Without Chambers, the Superior council quickly succumbed to infighting, as they couldn't agree on anybody to take Chamber's place. In the meantime, Biskane was having a lot of success governing on his own, drafting military plans for retaking the rest of Northern Wisconsin, as well as creating a food distribution system that actually worked, and didn't upset the farmers. Eventually, the Superior council decided to just allow Biskane to be the sole head of state, since he had done so well already. The only thing they asked for in exchange was his immediate approval of a risky excursion into the Southern Peninsula. He gave it his okay, and the militia immediately began it's march South. Within months, Superior had taken control of the upper-quarter of the peninsula, liberating it and it's people from urban raiders.

At the same time, a group of small communities based out of the Canadian Sault Ste. Marie came to Superior, asking that they be taken into the union. Biskane, much preferring peaceful resolution, accepted their request, tacking a third state into Superior's union. In the following days, the territories taken in the South were given a governor of their own, bringing the total number of states to four, which prompted the name of the state to change from “Superior” to “The Superior Confederation.” While most still refereed to the state simply as Superior, the significance of the name change was not lost. It solidified the union of the four states, giving them a unified pride, hope, and drive.

During the first election held by the new union three months ago, forty-eight year old Maurice “Biskane” Little won by a landslide eighty-seven percent, solidifying his continued position as the leader of the Superior Confederation.
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