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Okay but I meant in relation to his power. How does enthalpy lead to antimatter?

Using a combination of techniques. When encountering photons in the correct context, both antimatter and matter can be emitted from the decay of quantum particles emitted from electrons. Instead of using light as the energy source, antimatter can be generated from particle accelerators by moving particles and colliding them at an appropriate speed. Though this antimatter would be incredibly fast, Seth could slow them down by reducing the total heat in the particles. He can also isolate antimatter with his abilities to prevent it from annihilation from encountering matter. Through enthalpy, he can do either of these things because they are directly correlated to the energy in the system they are a part of. A third/most difficult option would be to freeze all the particles to absolute zero and reverse properties such as spin, momentum, etc. in order to reverse their quantum numbers. This would have the highest conversion rate, but would also be the most complex to pull off (though admittedly easiest to isolate). I am admittedly the least familiar with the feasibility of the physics of this solution, but based on my understanding, this would be successful with some particles.

In theory, Ma'at could do the same thing by using the third option but by the nature of her ability, it would be several orders of magnitude more difficult. She'd have to individually stop the motion, spin, etc. of each particle based on its current velocity and such properties and then recalculate that in order to convert it. She would also have to isolate it (which would be less difficult for her), but the conversion is the real issue in this scenario.

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Using a combination of techniques. When encountering photons in the correct context, both antimatter and matter can be emitted from the decay of quantum particles emitted from electrons. Instead of using light as the energy source, antimatter can be generated from particle accelerators by moving particles and colliding them at an appropriate speed. Though this antimatter would be incredibly fast, Seth could slow them down by reducing the total heat in the particles. He can also isolate antimatter with his abilities to prevent it from annihilation from encountering matter. Through enthalpy, he can do either of these things because they are directly correlated to the energy in the system they are a part of. A third/most difficult option would be to freeze all the particles to absolute zero and reverse properties such as spin, momentum, etc. in order to reverse their quantum numbers. This would have the highest conversion rate, but would also be the most complex to pull off (though admittedly easiest to isolate). I am admittedly the least familiar with the feasibility of the physics of this solution, but based on my understanding, this would be successful with some particles.

In theory, Ma'at could do the same thing by using the third option but by the nature of her ability, it would be several orders of magnitude more difficult. She'd have to individually stop the motion, spin, etc. of each particle based on its current velocity and such properties and then recalculate that in order to convert it. She would also have to isolate it (which would be less difficult for her), but the conversion is the real issue in this scenario.

The problem with that is that it would create a huge reduction in pressure and/or volume as more energy is altered. I also don't see how his power could let him isolate the antimatter unless antimatter is directly correlated with anti-energy. I also don't see how reaching absolute zero would reverse any of those things, and one could argue that absolute zero doesn't affect anti-energy and/or antimatter considering the only places we've observed it are outer space where it's always absolute zero. Even ignoring all of this, I don't see how Seth could actually control the antimatter after he made it, whereas Ma'at could easily just control any of it that he makes.

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The problem with that is that it would create a huge reduction in pressure and/or volume as more energy is altered. I also don't see how his power could let him isolate the antimatter unless antimatter is directly correlated with anti-energy. I also don't see how reaching absolute zero would reverse any of those things, and one could argue that absolute zero doesn't affect anti-energy and/or antimatter considering the only places we've observed it are outer space where it's always absolute zero. Even ignoring all of this, I don't see how Seth could actually control the antimatter after he made it, whereas Ma'at could easily just control any of it that he makes.

"huge reduction in pressure and/or volume"
Could you explain this?
"isolate the antimatter unless antimatter is directly correlated with anti-energy"
There's no such thing as anti-energy. Antimatter is the same as normal matter, but (in shortened terms) everything is moving in the opposite direction.
"reaching absolute zero would reverse any of those things"
In and of itself, it doesn't. But he hits absolute zero, he can reverse the aforementioned properties. That's why it'd be harder for Ma'at, because she would have to directly add vectors to reverse the quantum numbers while Seth can just add energy in a way that would reverse them to "naturally" create antimatter.
"only places we've observed it are outer space where it's always absolute zero"
This is a bit of a misstatement. Temperature is directly correlated to matter, so any matter that isn't moving at all is at absolute zero (since temperature is just particle vibration). A vacuum is empty, so it has no temperature. But space isn't a perfect vacuum, so you find a proton every few feet or so, and it has non-zero energy. We have never created or observed a truly still particle, but we've gotten really close. Whether or not we've observed antimatter in outer space, I do not know. But I think you may be confusing the terms dark matter with antimatter, since there is (theoretically) dark matter and energy. But that's just astrophysics way of saying that things don't behave the way we think they should behave out in space, so this is what we think is causing it, though it could totally be something else we know nothing about (cough @Galaxy Raider cough).
"how Seth could actually control the antimatter after he made it"
The same way he controls other pieces of matter. He just adds appropriate kinetic energy. Granted, it is absolutely nowhere near as precise as Ma'at's control of vectors, but he can do matter herding easily enough.
"could easily just control any of it that he makes."
This is also very true, but the idea is that it results in as disastrous an outcome as possible if she does.

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"huge reduction in pressure and/or volume"
Could you explain this?
"isolate the antimatter unless antimatter is directly correlated with anti-energy"
There's no such thing as anti-energy. Antimatter is the same as normal matter, but (in shortened terms) everything is moving in the opposite direction.
"reaching absolute zero would reverse any of those things"
In and of itself, it doesn't. But he hits absolute zero, he can reverse the aforementioned properties. That's why it'd be harder for Ma'at, because she would have to directly add vectors to reverse the quantum numbers while Seth can just add energy in a way that would reverse them to "naturally" create antimatter.
"only places we've observed it are outer space where it's always absolute zero"
This is a bit of a misstatement. Temperature is directly correlated to matter, so any matter that isn't moving at all is at absolute zero (since temperature is just particle vibration). A vacuum is empty, so it has no temperature. But space isn't a perfect vacuum, so you find a proton every few feet or so, and it has non-zero energy. We have never created or observed a truly still particle, but we've gotten really close. Whether or not we've observed antimatter in outer space, I do not know. But I think you may be confusing the terms dark matter with antimatter, since there is (theoretically) dark matter and energy. But that's just astrophysics way of saying that things don't behave the way we think they should behave out in space, so this is what we think is causing it, though it could totally be something else we know nothing about (cough [@GalaxyRaider] cough).
"how Seth could actually control the antimatter after he made it"
The same way he controls other pieces of matter. He just adds appropriate kinetic energy. Granted, it is absolutely nowhere near as precise as Ma'at's control of vectors, but he can do matter herding easily enough.
"could easily just control any of it that he makes."
This is also very true, but the idea is that it results in as disastrous an outcome as possible if she does.

It's because of what enthalpy is. As the energy increases due to the antimatter, the pressure and/or volume of the system must go down proportionally.
Anti-energy is theoretically possible, therefor exists in MR in half of all cases. (Due to the infinity problem.) Codex have Existence based powers, not universe based like all non-Codex/non-Triggers/(previously)non-Moderators, so anti-energy is a possible factor. Especially at higher spacial dimensions where the laws of the universe in question don't necessarily apply.
That's not quite true, since Ma'at can simply instantly reverse a vector to it's negative match. A 1x vector can be instantly changed to a -1x vector. That level of inherent control is why she's the third strongest in history, as will be expanded on and explained IC later on.
I could have sworn that there was a statistic about antimatter content in some observation a while back. Maybe I'm misremembering and think of dark matter. Plus, you know I meant "effectively always," not "literally always."
Fair enough.
I don't really see how though.

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It's because of what enthalpy is. As the energy increases due to the antimatter, the pressure and/or volume of the system must go down proportionally.
Anti-energy is theoretically possible, therefor exists in MR in half of all cases. (Due to the infinity problem.) Codex have Existence based powers, not universe based like all non-Codex/non-Triggers/(previously)non-Moderators, so anti-energy is a possible factor. Especially at higher spacial dimensions where the laws of the universe in question don't necessarily apply.
That's not quite true, since Ma'at can simply instantly reverse a vector to it's negative match. A 1x vector can be instantly changed to a -1x vector. That level of inherent control is why she's the third strongest in history, as will be expanded on and explained IC later on.
I could have sworn that there was a statistic about antimatter content in some observation a while back. Maybe I'm misremembering and think of dark matter. Plus, you know I meant "effectively always," not "literally always."
Fair enough.
I don't really see how though.

Could you clarify the property you are referring to?
I again believe that you're referring to dark energy, because there is nothing that would make anti-energy anti-energy. There are no properties to reverse. You may be referring to exotic matter/negative energy, which has negative mass and negative energy (as the name implies), which is a totally different thing. We don't really know much at all about this.
"Anti-energy is theoretically possible, therefor exists in MR in half of all cases"
I'm going to have to disagree with this one. I would argue that anything being "possible" is simply a probability of it being capable of existing based on our own understanding of nature. Because of this, all things are either something that is capable of existing or not capable of existing, regardless of whether or not we have the knowledge to prove that this is true or ever will. But as an extension of that, it is either capable of existing or not capable of existing in all applicable universes. The scope of all applicable universes includes all universes with similar properties, which would imply virtually all of them due to the very precise nature of physical constants. Those physical constants have very small room for changes in most circumstances, and a universe that alters those to any significant extent would require radical changes in all other values. But there is no guarantee that another configuration of physical constants would fit together in the precise way ours does, leading to the possibility that no universes have greatly differing physical properties.
I agree that higher spacial dimensions would appear differently, but they would still adhere to the same basic laws, just at different levels of complexity, like they theoretically do in our world (if they exist).
I don't think the formula for matter-antimatter conversion (if one exists at all) is as simple as substituting a -1 for the quantum number multiplier. Maybe, but there are a lot of factors when dealing with quantum mechanics and she would have to deal with all of those factors from a vector perspective rather than an energy one, which is more difficult. Also, that would be applying a scalar rather than adding a vector, which I understand is rather similar on a trivial case basis, but still. There's already someone who can do that.
She'd have to prevent it from reacting violently with that around her, and if it also is pushed on a higher dimensional plane, it'll be much harder to track. If it does react violently, she has to keep the reaction at bay, lowering her concentration focused on everything else. She'd also have to keep track of everything converted on the fly, which would be incredibly difficult since she would have to calculate the momentum, spin, etc. of every atom in the immediate space to see what is reversed. Seth can do it rather easily based on their properties, but there's no vector that distinguishes matter and antimatter without a closer look.

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Could you clarify the property you are referring to?
I again believe that you're referring to dark energy, because there is nothing that would make anti-energy anti-energy. There are no properties to reverse. You may be referring to exotic matter/negative energy, which has negative mass and negative energy (as the name implies), which is a totally different thing. We don't really know much at all about this.
"Anti-energy is theoretically possible, therefor exists in MR in half of all cases"
I'm going to have to disagree with this one. I would argue that anything being "possible" is simply a probability of it being capable of existing based on our own understanding of nature. Because of this, all things are either something that is capable of existing or not capable of existing, regardless of whether or not we have the knowledge to prove that this is true or ever will. But as an extension of that, it is either capable of existing or not capable of existing in all applicable universes. The scope of all applicable universes includes all universes with similar properties, which would imply virtually all of them due to the very precise nature of physical constants. Those physical constants have very small room for changes in most circumstances, and a universe that alters those to any significant extent would require radical changes in all other values. But there is no guarantee that another configuration of physical constants would fit together in the precise way ours does, leading to the possibility that no universes have greatly differing physical properties.
I agree that higher spacial dimensions would appear differently, but they would still adhere to the same basic laws, just at different levels of complexity, like they theoretically do in our world (if they exist).
I don't think the formula for matter-antimatter conversion (if one exists at all) is as simple as substituting a -1 for the quantum number multiplier. Maybe, but there are a lot of factors when dealing with quantum mechanics and she would have to deal with all of those factors from a vector perspective rather than an energy one, which is more difficult. Also, that would be applying a scalar rather than adding a vector, which I understand is rather similar on a trivial case basis, but still. There's already someone who can do that.
She'd have to prevent it from reacting violently with that around her, and if it also is pushed on a higher dimensional plane, it'll be much harder to track. If it does react violently, she has to keep the reaction at bay, lowering her concentration focused on everything else. She'd also have to keep track of everything converted on the fly, which would be incredibly difficult since she would have to calculate the momentum, spin, etc. of every atom in the immediate space to see what is reversed. Seth can do it rather easily based on their properties, but there's no vector that distinguishes matter and antimatter without a closer look.

Enthalpy itself?
Possibly, but I'm also including the concept of anti-energy that couldn't exist in our universe.
That entire statement is based on a view that is from within a universe. You assume that because our universe works a certain way, all must work similarly, which is entirely the opposite of MR canon. Removing the infinity problem, there are perhaps 2% of all universes that share properties similar enough to ours to have all the physics we have be applicable in the same way. Due to the infinity problem, this is raised to 50%. It is simply because our characters happen to be from these universes and therefor avoid those that are too different that the universes shown in MR are so similar. Anti-energy could be as simple as an energy equivalent of antimatter or as complex as something entirely different, depending on the universe. Whether or not it exists in ours is irrelevant.
Mm.
Both points you raise work on paper, but remember that she affects actualized vectors, which don't work the way vectors do on a conceptual level. The 1x to -1x example is just to show that reversing a vector is trivial for her. The whole thing about her being third most powerful is that she can do all these things as naturally as blinking. She doesn't have to go into a vector and add more to change it, she can change it as is. Changing a vector from 1x to 1y or 1000x or -1x are all equally simple for her, and doing any single one for a vector or set of vectors takes almost no effort. This level of effort and thought required is what sets her so apart from the other vector controlling Codex that came before her. It's not always a conscious thing for her to alter something the way she wants, the actual details are usually subconscious. Also remember that there really isn't such a thing as actualized scalars; the act of being actualized makes almost all of them into vectors. Codex don't sit down and write out formulas and alter numbers in them, they alter what they control essentially by telling it to change. That's why they're so special and important, and why their powers can't be replicated. Accelerator's vector control is nothing like Ma'ats, even though they technically have the same power.
Fair enough, though if they have opposite "spins," that is a vector that would allow for easy distinction. But simply pulling an Accel and pushing away all vectors would create an Aegis against it as well.

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Enthalpy itself?
Possibly, but I'm also including the concept of anti-energy that couldn't exist in our universe.
That entire statement is based on a view that is from within a universe. You assume that because our universe works a certain way, all must work similarly, which is entirely the opposite of MR canon. Removing the infinity problem, there are perhaps 2% of all universes that share properties similar enough to ours to have all the physics we have be applicable in the same way. Due to the infinity problem, this is raised to 50%. It is simply because our characters happen to be from these universes and therefor avoid those that are too different that the universes shown in MR are so similar. Anti-energy could be as simple as an energy equivalent of antimatter or as complex as something entirely different, depending on the universe. Whether or not it exists in ours is irrelevant.
Mm.
Both points you raise work on paper, but remember that she affects actualized vectors, which don't work the way vectors do on a conceptual level. The 1x to -1x example is just to show that reversing a vector is trivial for her. The whole thing about her being third most powerful is that she can do all these things as naturally as blinking. She doesn't have to go into a vector and add more to change it, she can change it as is. Changing a vector from 1x to 1y or 1000x or -1x are all equally simple for her, and doing any single one for a vector or set of vectors takes almost no effort. This level of effort and thought required is what sets her so apart from the other vector controlling Codex that came before her. It's not always a conscious thing for her to alter something the way she wants, the actual details are usually subconscious. Also remember that there really isn't such a thing as actualized scalars; the act of being actualized makes almost all of them into vectors. Codex don't sit down and write out formulas and alter numbers in them, they alter what they control essentially by telling it to change. That's why they're so special and important, and why their powers can't be replicated. Accelerator's vector control is nothing like Ma'ats, even though they technically have the same power.
Fair enough, though if they have opposite "spins," that is a vector that would allow for easy distinction. But simply pulling an Accel and pushing away all vectors would create an Aegis against it as well.

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Will respond in the morning. Night.

Night.

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Enthalpy is just total heat in a system, system being defined by whomever is running the test. There's no reason pressure or volume has to decrease as heat is added.
But anti-energy that exists in the same manner as antimatter can't exist in any universe with classical matter because they're two dissimilar things. It'd be like saying that because there are green and red apples, there are green and red oranges because they're both fruits.
I would appreciate it if you expounded on the "infinity problem," but the issue is mathematically bound rather than physically bound. I won't argue that other universes can't have different constants because they're not found in ours, but I will argue that there are very few if any circumstances where different sets of constants fit together mathematically and create a functioning universe. Is life even viable on a theoretical universe with different constants? That decreases the odds even more since the System automatically filters out lifeless universes. It becomes a huge puzzle and there just may not be another set of physical properties that logically and mathematically fit together in a way that doesn't end in a universe ripping apart or fitting together. That notwithstanding, there also has to be some standard of physical laws as they apply to outside of dimensions since that space does exist.
To be fair, Seth's ability has different specifics when compared to Ma'at's. There's a lot of overlap, but also enough difference. I can accept that she can affect these things like that, but I'm also wary that it's as simple as throwing a -1 against the properties.
The issue with noticing opposite spins is that you have to have the matter atom to compare it to. If antihydrogen spins the opposite way when compared to hydrogen, she'd first have to have a case of hydrogen and compare it to the spins of all antihydrogen atoms she encounters. Not to mention that there are other factors that could potentially define antimatter that makes it more difficult to compare. A bulk of it comes from the fact that there are simply so many atoms in matter, but also that on a physical level, antimatter is indistinguishable from regular matter when not directly compared.

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Enthalpy is just total heat in a system, system being defined by whomever is running the test. There's no reason pressure or volume has to decrease as heat is added.
But anti-energy that exists in the same manner as antimatter can't exist in any universe with classical matter because they're two dissimilar things. It'd be like saying that because there are green and red apples, there are green and red oranges because they're both fruits.
I would appreciate it if you expounded on the "infinity problem," but the issue is mathematically bound rather than physically bound. I won't argue that other universes can't have different constants because they're not found in ours, but I will argue that there are very few if any circumstances where different sets of constants fit together mathematically and create a functioning universe. Is life even viable on a theoretical universe with different constants? That decreases the odds even more since the System automatically filters out lifeless universes. It becomes a huge puzzle and there just may not be another set of physical properties that logically and mathematically fit together in a way that doesn't end in a universe ripping apart or fitting together. That notwithstanding, there also has to be some standard of physical laws as they apply to outside of dimensions since that space does exist.
To be fair, Seth's ability has different specifics when compared to Ma'at's. There's a lot of overlap, but also enough difference. I can accept that she can affect these things like that, but I'm also wary that it's as simple as throwing a -1 against the properties.
The issue with noticing opposite spins is that you have to have the matter atom to compare it to. If antihydrogen spins the opposite way when compared to hydrogen, she'd first have to have a case of hydrogen and compare it to the spins of all antihydrogen atoms she encounters. Not to mention that there are other factors that could potentially define antimatter that makes it more difficult to compare. A bulk of it comes from the fact that there are simply so many atoms in matter, but also that on a physical level, antimatter is indistinguishable from regular matter when not directly compared.

"a thermodynamic quantity equivalent to the total heat content of a system. It is equal to the internal energy of the system plus the product of pressure and volume."
True, but the point I'm making is that it's something to factor in with Codex, since they ignore universe-specific rules.
There are an infinite number of dimensions, therefor there is an infinite number of dimensions with a given set of traits, but also an infinite number without those traits. Since infinity = infinity, the total is always 50% with and without.
There are countless other functioning possibilities. Plus X to everything, for example. Yet there are also countless that we simply can't fathom or imagine because we live in a universe with the rules that we do, and simply don't have the capability to imagine ones so different. That limitation doesn't mean they can't exist, and that limitation isn't in play in the canon because of that. Yes, life is viable in nearly any universe, it doesn't have to be carbon based life or life we can fathom or imagine. Further, the System can't possibly filter out all universes without life because not only is that mathematically impossible, and not only would the universe simply come back due to the infinity problem, but also because at some point EVERY universe has no life. "Capability for life" is fine, but remember that the System was dismantled by Dynamo.
The standard outside of universes, canonically, is in flux constantly until something from a universe comes to it at which point it locally matches the rules natural to that something. This is why strategic methods are to send someone to another universe with reversed properties rather than to outside of a dimension in order to harm them.
It's not in actuality as simple as throwing a -1 against it, that's just an example to make it easier to understand, since otherwise we'd have to go over an entirely new set of concepts just to explain it.
I don't necessarily agree. She knows what direction matter spins from interacting with it so much, so simply noticing that it's not the spin of matter would work without needing the exact counterpart at the same time.
That's fair enough. Though it's difficult to believe that very many of those traits aren't actualized vectors or at least easily sensible via them.

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"a thermodynamic quantity equivalent to the total heat content of a system. It is equal to the internal energy of the system plus the product of pressure and volume."
True, but the point I'm making is that it's something to factor in with Codex, since they ignore universe-specific rules.
There are an infinite number of dimensions, therefor there is an infinite number of dimensions with a given set of traits, but also an infinite number without those traits. Since infinity = infinity, the total is always 50% with and without.
There are countless other functioning possibilities. Plus X to everything, for example. Yet there are also countless that we simply can't fathom or imagine because we live in a universe with the rules that we do, and simply don't have the capability to imagine ones so different. That limitation doesn't mean they can't exist, and that limitation isn't in play in the canon because of that. Yes, life is viable in nearly any universe, it doesn't have to be carbon based life or life we can fathom or imagine. Further, the System can't possibly filter out all universes without life because not only is that mathematically impossible, and not only would the universe simply come back due to the infinity problem, but also because at some point EVERY universe has no life. "Capability for life" is fine, but remember that the System was dismantled by Dynamo.
The standard outside of universes, canonically, is in flux constantly until something from a universe comes to it at which point it locally matches the rules natural to that something. This is why strategic methods are to send someone to another universe with reversed properties rather than to outside of a dimension in order to harm them.
It's not in actuality as simple as throwing a -1 against it, that's just an example to make it easier to understand, since otherwise we'd have to go over an entirely new set of concepts just to explain it.
I don't necessarily agree. She knows what direction matter spins from interacting with it so much, so simply noticing that it's not the spin of matter would work without needing the exact counterpart at the same time.
That's fair enough. Though it's difficult to believe that very many of those traits aren't actualized vectors or at least easily sensible via them.

Yes. That's not an inverse correlation; it's not a gas law. If we define energy to be E, pressure to be P, and volume to be V, while enthalpy is T, T = E + P*V. Accelerator can manipulate any one of those values to impact enthalpy.
I thought we had agreed that the number of dimensions was finite. Either way, infinity theory is complex and mathematicians don't agree how to accurately represent numbers in a set that includes everything. But I would be willing to argue against this because set theory provides evidence against it. If we use a generic particular w, to represent a concept that is in 25% of dimensions and T as the total number (generic total, so this can extend to infinity) of dimensions, w = .25*T. While unending, the ratio is still the same and your probability of finding a w dimension remains 25%, even on an infinite scale, because they remain a set, even though unending.
We can't just add +X to everything because not all equations hold true under addition. It breaks under the simple math of x/y. x/y != (x+1)/(y+1). Every single formula that calculates a value would have to be rebalanced and reformulated, leading to another formula requiring reworking, leading to another. The universe has very specific values because it would fall apart otherwise.
The "This is beyond imagining" argument is circular and invalid. If it cannot be logically explained under any circumstances, it is not possible.
Mathematically possible in a finite Existence. There's no real reason for it to be infinite, and it only complicates things.
Dynamo didn't destroy the System; there is always a System by default. He replaced the Nobility System with the Ancient System.
That they were in flux was never particularly established canon. Maybe headcanon, but it was absolutely never said.
Let's say that you live in a ball factory. All red balls always spun clockwise, all purple ones counterclockwise, all green ones up and down, all blue ones not at all, and all striped ones moved in a circle. But your job at the factory isn't to monitor the balls, but rather to ship them. You probably wouldn't notice a small subset of balls moving in opposite directions because there are so many and you'd be desensitized to noticing their movement at all. That purple balls spin counterclockwise is an established fact that you wouldn't really need to check.

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Yes. That's not an inverse correlation; it's not a gas law. If we define energy to be E, pressure to be P, and volume to be V, while enthalpy is T, T = E + P*V. Accelerator can manipulate any one of those values to impact enthalpy.
I thought we had agreed that the number of dimensions was finite. Either way, infinity theory is complex and mathematicians don't agree how to accurately represent numbers in a set that includes everything. But I would be willing to argue against this because set theory provides evidence against it. If we use a generic particular w, to represent a concept that is in 25% of dimensions and T as the total number (generic total, so this can extend to infinity) of dimensions, w = .25*T. While unending, the ratio is still the same and your probability of finding a w dimension remains 25%, even on an infinite scale, because they remain a set, even though unending.
We can't just add +X to everything because not all equations hold true under addition. It breaks under the simple math of x/y. x/y != (x+1)/(y+1). Every single formula that calculates a value would have to be rebalanced and reformulated, leading to another formula requiring reworking, leading to another. The universe has very specific values because it would fall apart otherwise.
The "This is beyond imagining" argument is circular and invalid. If it cannot be logically explained under any circumstances, it is not possible.
Mathematically possible in a finite Existence. There's no real reason for it to be infinite, and it only complicates things.
Dynamo didn't destroy the System; there is always a System by default. He replaced the Nobility System with the Ancient System.
That they were in flux was never particularly established canon. Maybe headcanon, but it was absolutely never said.
Let's say that you live in a ball factory. All red balls always spun clockwise, all purple ones counterclockwise, all green ones up and down, all blue ones not at all, and all striped ones moved in a circle. But your job at the factory isn't to monitor the balls, but rather to ship them. You probably wouldn't notice a small subset of balls moving in opposite directions because there are so many and you'd be desensitized to noticing their movement at all. That purple balls spin counterclockwise is an established fact that you wouldn't really need to check.

Mm. Fair enough.
That was never agreed on, you just sort of went with it. I never corrected it IC because it would be pointless and isn't really important in anything other than statistics. You could say that there's a finite number of, for example, universes with the color orange in them, but it still becomes infinity on a technical level because of the infinity problem. So it's sort of both? And with duplicates and everything, it is theoretically possible to, if outside of any form or similar concept to time, to calculate the number over an infinite span and reach a finite number. But since that can't be done... See, this is why I never brought it up IC. My characters are smarter than me so they should be able to explain this but I'm terrible at it. Your example is basically exactly what I was trying to go for, except because I was using a static infinity it would be that 25% = 50% because it is simultaneously 100% and 0%.
Except you're still talking about conceptual reality. Numbers are a pure concept, they don't apply to actualized reality. They're just a concept we use to conceptualize actualized things so we can better understand them, because we are built to work through concepts rather than actualities. I know there's a better example out there but think of it like object-oriented programming versus other types.
I'm not saying it can't be explained under any circumstances. I'm saying that the circumstances can't be met. Just because they can't be met for us doesn't mean they can't be met for something entirely different than us.
"No reason." Infinity is the only way to explain parallel Source dimensions and to account for every Source with its own nearly infinite number of Paths. It doesn't needlessly complicate things any more than "nearly infinite" does. If anything, it simplifies things because it can explain things that otherwise cannot be explained.
The "Ancient System" is completely unknown and came about in an unknown period that can't even be located to begin the process of finding out how it came about. All we know is that it was some time after the second generation of Codex were wiped out and some time before the Nobles showed up. We don't even have confirmation that it works remotely similarly to how the Tier System worked, and as far as I know, the Noble System didn't have a clean up action like the Tier System did.
I think it was said at one point, but I don't know for sure. Also keep in mind that I'm not referring to Blake's "outside of Existence" thing, just when someone destroys a dimension and is left in the "space" it "occupied."
True, but that's not quite accurate. If the balls are moving while being shipped, and the shipper was sensitive to movement to a degree that if they put any effort in, they could determine the movement of a ball or group of balls while being shipped, that would be more accurate. Yes, she's desensitized to it, but in the way that you and I are desensitized to the english alphabet. I imagine that Seth is desensitized to the working of enthalpy in a similar way.

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Mm. Fair enough.
That was never agreed on, you just sort of went with it. I never corrected it IC because it would be pointless and isn't really important in anything other than statistics. You could say that there's a finite number of, for example, universes with the color orange in them, but it still becomes infinity on a technical level because of the infinity problem. So it's sort of both? And with duplicates and everything, it is theoretically possible to, if outside of any form or similar concept to time, to calculate the number over an infinite span and reach a finite number. But since that can't be done... See, this is why I never brought it up IC. My characters are smarter than me so they should be able to explain this but I'm terrible at it. Your example is basically exactly what I was trying to go for, except because I was using a static infinity it would be that 25% = 50% because it is simultaneously 100% and 0%.
Except you're still talking about conceptual reality. Numbers are a pure concept, they don't apply to actualized reality. They're just a concept we use to conceptualize actualized things so we can better understand them, because we are built to work through concepts rather than actualities. I know there's a better example out there but think of it like object-oriented programming versus other types.
I'm not saying it can't be explained under any circumstances. I'm saying that the circumstances can't be met. Just because they can't be met for us doesn't mean they can't be met for something entirely different than us.
"No reason." Infinity is the only way to explain parallel Source dimensions and to account for every Source with its own nearly infinite number of Paths. It doesn't needlessly complicate things any more than "nearly infinite" does. If anything, it simplifies things because it can explain things that otherwise cannot be explained.
The "Ancient System" is completely unknown and came about in an unknown period that can't even be located to begin the process of finding out how it came about. All we know is that it was some time after the second generation of Codex were wiped out and some time before the Nobles showed up. We don't even have confirmation that it works remotely similarly to how the Tier System worked, and as far as I know, the Noble System didn't have a clean up action like the Tier System did.
I think it was said at one point, but I don't know for sure. Also keep in mind that I'm not referring to Blake's "outside of Existence" thing, just when someone destroys a dimension and is left in the "space" it "occupied."
True, but that's not quite accurate. If the balls are moving while being shipped, and the shipper was sensitive to movement to a degree that if they put any effort in, they could determine the movement of a ball or group of balls while being shipped, that would be more accurate. Yes, she's desensitized to it, but in the way that you and I are desensitized to the english alphabet. I imagine that Seth is desensitized to the working of enthalpy in a similar way.

You keep referencing the "Infinty Problem" without explaining exactly what it is. It isn't known in spacetime theory, at least not by that name.
Still, an infinity Existence becomes problematic because it would require infinite matter and energy, which would also make it boundless. That brings up another set of issues, and there's no real reason to consider it infinite. A finite Existence fits into calculations much better without a lot of the issues an infinite land brings up.
The problem with 25% = 50% is rationalized by the idea that a quarter of endless is endless and half of endless is still endless, so if there are two enldlesses that fit into one endless space, one half of them must be one and one half the other. However, infinity is a set and not a value, and sets break simple algebra. If every fourth element of the set is 3 and the rest are 2, no matter how far along the set you go, the ratio will remain 3:1. It doesn't become 1:1 at any point just because it is infinite; they remain in a ratio regardless of the size of the set.
Numbers are a pure concept; that's why they make most scenarios totally impossible. I understand that you're saying it's totally restructured, but even in a restructure, it must follow certain mathematical principles to avoid collapse. Virtually every scenario beyond ours leads to total destruction, with few exceptions.
Parallel Source dimensions can be explained the same way differing Source dimensions can. The Nobility System did have a filter; most of the time, filters are passive rather than actively created and enforced by the System owners.
He could, but it's also really really hard to determine all of the balls that are spinning the wrong direction, especially when mixed in with other ones that aren't. The idea isn't that Ma'at can't differentiate them, but it's intended to use up all of her concentration, just like it would for the shipper, trying to notice all of the balls moving in the wrong direction. It would also be super easy to end up confusing the two directions when seeing them side by side enough, regardless of how well they know them.

Wow, y'all at it again with the long OOC posts?

Wow, y'all at it again with the long OOC posts?

We're not arguing this time. It's actually one of the most civil huge discussions we've had.

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We're not arguing this time. It's actually one of the most civil huge discussions we've had.

I dont have the time to explain the reason why I dont have time to read all of that garble.

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I dont have the time to explain the reason why I dont have time to read all of that garble.

I read through most of it.

And I can't sum it up sadly. just too much stuff.

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I read through most of it.

And I can't sum it up sadly. just too much stuff.

There's a lot.

Back for a bit, tonight.

Did everyone just dissapear?

Back for a bit, tonight.

Did everyone just dissapear?

Can you reduce that statement a bit to clarify?