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Actually I would personally disagree, Shamir is and he's less experienced so Shamir would without a doubt be wrecked in sword combat. But that doesn't mean he can't be creative in his approach, as a tiefling you have the bodily weak points that an experienced fighter would know to take advantage of to get in a few good shots, but magically he can be over powered rather fast. I agree Shamir vs Kyvir is a poor match up, but with more experienced sword fighters it would be interesting to see them fight. Alexander seems to be more inclined magically than physically, so right now the only toe to toe fights I can see happening is Garuda cs Kyvir or Isilfarrel vs Garuda, since Garuda I would rank as the close second strongest magically and Kyvir out classing him physically but potentially not creatively. If that makes sense. Though that's just me speculating since you know your characters better than me and their limitations, I'm only going to step in if you start getting superman syndrome and never lose.

And just so we're clear, I'm not arguing I'm just having fun discussing.

Even with a creative approach, Shamir's magic is only good for (at least right now) healing minor wounds and transmutation, and he doesn't seem to have much ranged ability. So the fight would be very up-close and personal, which is where Kyvir accels.

Alexander seems to be capable of some ranged work, with his fire Magic, which would give him (IMO) the best odds against Kyvir depending on the fight's setting. I'd say that Alexander would do best in 50+ meters sized area, but anything less an Kyvir could get close enough to end things pretty quickly.

Garuda would be a quick fight, one way or the other. I'd assume He wouldn't attack Kyvir from a long range, as that would make it easy for Kyvir to dodge the (fairly) small explosive radius. So it'd be mid-close range, which is where they both kick ass, so It'd definitely be the most interesting.

And no I get you, I'm not arguing either.
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Posted my character, going in conjunction with @Too old 4 this
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Ah you must be the friend they mentioned. Yeah I looked it over, looks fun and possibly comedic to a degree. I approve =b
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Even with a creative approach, Shamir's magic is only good for (at least right now) healing minor wounds and transmutation, and he doesn't seem to have much ranged ability. So the fight would be very up-close and personal, which is where Kyvir accels.

Alexander seems to be capable of some ranged work, with his fire Magic, which would give him (IMO) the best odds against Kyvir depending on the fight's setting. I'd say that Alexander would do best in 50+ meters sized area, but anything less an Kyvir could get close enough to end things pretty quickly.

Garuda would be a quick fight, one way or the other. I'd assume He wouldn't attack Kyvir from a long range, as that would make it easy for Kyvir to dodge the (fairly) small explosive radius. So it'd be mid-close range, which is where they both kick ass, so It'd definitely be the most interesting.

And no I get you, I'm not arguing either.


Oh yeah without a doubt even with a creative approach Shamir is just outclassed by him. Speed and agility won't do anything to help you against someone that won't stay down you need a more cleave-y warrior to like, cut his leg off or some shit lol
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Should I post my CS in the OOC first for aproval, or just drop it in the character section?
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Boy, Shamir doesn't waste any time does he?

Can't blame him. Soon as Isilfarrel finds out who Alex is, she's gonna be very interested in meeting Alex's father.

hostile takeover/coup of the Elvish lands with her as the leader? Yes please.

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Added a bit of history in Isil's CS about her purchase of Kyvir, if you're interested~
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Here in the ooc preferably.
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I think he's perfectly acceptable for the rp, approved. It'll be fun to see how he functions as a straight up brawler without any magical experience learning entirely from his time there.
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I think he's perfectly acceptable for the rp, approved. It'll be fun to see how he functions as a straight up brawler without any magical experience learning entirely from his time there.


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Unless Shamir is able to get range on Kyvir, it won't be a very fair fight. Shamir is likely to be a lot faster than Kyvir, but Kyvir is pretty light on his feet for the mountain he is. That, plus Shamir is an "Average" swordsman, whereas Kyvir is only alive because he was the best fighter Surthay could produce. Right now, the only people I'm seeing that could take him on would be Alexander, Garuda, or obviously, Isilfarrel.

However, with that all being said, his greatest weakness is his loyalty. Unless ordered to do otherwise by Isilfarrel, he won't attack or get into fights with people. Even if someone picks a fight with him, he will play it defensively and do little actual damage to them, only doing enough to stop them from continuing to attack him.


Garuda might actually befriend both Isilfarrel and Kyvir, since they are both powerful. Though that might depend if they actually show determination in a real duel, which I think only Isilfarrel satisfied it.

Talking about match-ups, it's kind of cool to think about it. Garuda vs Kyvir would be the most exciting, since they are all close-quartered capable, and even powerful in that regards. Garuda excels at midrange, good at close range, but normally cant finish off close, since the ball would inflict damage on himself also (he could actually beat his opponent up with his explosive balls and then finish off close, or just deal with them without the ball, if they aren't that powerful). So a Kyvir vs Garuda would be intense.

Garuda vs Isilfarrel. It would be second most interesting, since it's more calculative than a close up brawl, like how to lure the enemy into the trap, and how much magic will I need kind of thing.

Garuda vs Alexander. Both is a counter to each other, so if one could maintain their advantages, it's a bad day for the other. But who knows.

Against Shamir...well his magical prowess is no match for Garuda, since he's a support kind of magic, while Garuda is a direct combat one, but he can go swordfighting with Garuda. And he can also be creative in his approach, though I don't know how smart he is. So it might not be fair, but if you want to show progression that you have improved, and be the underdog, beating or drawing him in an even match, then I will be willing to go with your demand.

I know I know, Garuda is probably the most powerful character speaking generally, but that's the whole idea of this character: be a rival. So that initially weaker characters can improve and beat him. If there aren't any powerful characters and anyone's the same, it will be boring. And it may be fun writing his prideful characteristics

EDIT: I think I will write a fight myself as an opening post, against an NPC student I create, to give a general idea of his style of battling
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this looks fun
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@Conscripts, To be honest, I myself am not sure how smart Shamir is in combat, and I don't really know if I should have him fight anyone at all. Right now, he's shaping up as a 'talker', if that makes any sense.
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Alright, have an opening post between me and @hagroden~

Showed off a bit of Isil's not so nice side in this post in regards to Kyvir. Annnd now to decide what else to do with her for the remainder of the day, heh.
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Holy crap I was in a sad mood cause someone in pms had to drop her character but now im feeling a lot better to see such enthusiasm with that post lol Thank you for that I feel confident again.
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Aha, glad @hagroden and I could help improve your mood a bit.
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I'm still reading it, you guys really went all out. Mad props to you both.
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Nice post.

I can tell Garanin will not like either of these characters. Yay.
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Heh

To be Fair Isilfarrel is very Lawful Good in appearance to most people to begin with. She'll probably even laugh at the dwarfs jokes.
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Excellent work both of you, I think I'll take the opportunity to mess with her a bit. Can you describe any luggage she brought with her for me here?
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