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Read about that yes. I got an idea. Or few.

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Hello. I am planning on joining this RP, may I make a German independent colony nation?
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Read about that yes. I got an idea. Or few.

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Hello. I am planning on joining this RP, may I make a German independent colony nation?


Yeah, go for it. The colonies would've broken away during the German Civil War. You have your choice of Namibia, Kamerun, and Tanganyika. Tanganyika is the most notorious, because Paul von Letow-Vorbeck, who had been steadfastly loyal to the crown, took the colonial army, seized the government, and named himself "The Kaiser in Afrika." The Germans still hate him and his family's guts to this day.

Otherwise, Kamerun and Namibia haven't had any details hashed out for them, other than they followed Letow-Vorbeck's lead.
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Hmm. Okay. I was thinking perhaps Kamerun and during the Great War - they had perhaps captured the British colony next door of Nigeria?

And perhaps Kamerun had a leader that hated what Paul did - having been a Loyalist.
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Hmm. Okay. I was thinking perhaps Kamerun and during the Great War - they had perhaps captured the British colony next door of Nigeria?

And perhaps Kamerun had a leader that hated what Paul did - having been a Loyalist.


Filthy Germans...
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For the Kaiser!


Wait, so, do you want Kamerun to still be loyal to the Kaiser? If so, we can set up a German equivalent of the Commonwealth or something. Independent, but the Kaiser is still your Kaiser.
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I will soon be finishing my bio - then you can debate for yourself.
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Well, my sheet is done. Hope you'll like and accept it =3. Damnit that was long as fuck to write.

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Here is something for you to read - mighty Kaiser.



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Okay, I read the app, but... I'm still not sure exactly what you want the relationship to be between Germany and German Afrika. Are you independent, or does German Afrika want the Kaiser to reclaim the ex-colony?
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Okay, I read the app, but... I'm still not sure exactly what you want the relationship to be between Germany and German Afrika. Are you independent, or does German Afrika want the Kaiser to reclaim the ex-colony?


Also, how did German West Afrika become a duchy? Was it ennobled by the Kaiser, or is a unilateral thing? Is Feo's version of Germany creating new duchies at such a late hour? That's something you'll need to confer with to him.

The thing I noticed at the end too is you kinda bowl over the natives. Remember that Kamerun is going to be a majority native nation and native cultural traditions will still be strong. Don't RP Kamerun like it's a white European nation because that won't be realistic. You can do full white rule of course, but it might look a but apartheidy like Wyrm's Rhodesia.

Also also, why did the Germans occupy Spanish Guinea? That seems random. That would have risked bringing Spain into the Great War, which the Kaiser wouldn't of appreciated. It might look weird on the map, but really unless Feo is okay with Germany going to war with Spain I think Spanish Guinea should still be Spanish.
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Also, how did German West Afrika become a duchy? Was it ennobled by the Kaiser, or is a unilateral thing? Is Feo's version of Germany creating new duchies at such a late hour? That's something you'll need to confer with to him.

The thing I noticed at the end too is you kinda bowl over the natives. Remember that Kamerun is going to be a majority native nation and native cultural traditions will still be strong. Don't RP Kamerun like it's a white European nation because that won't be realistic. You can do full white rule of course, but it might look a but apartheidy like Wyrm's Rhodesia.

Also also, why did the Germans occupy Spanish Guinea? That seems random. That would have risked bringing Spain into the Great War, which the Kaiser wouldn't of appreciated. It might look weird on the map, but really unless Feo is okay with Germany going to war with Spain I think Spanish Guinea should still be Spanish.


Enforcing a sort of Germanification of a population wouldn't sit well since it would symbolize cultural genocide to some, or threaten local culture and religion. It would encourage reprisal from the vast native population, which itself would for the sake of the regime's safety demand some sort of reprisal on their part or pulling back on their cultural conversions.

The rule of a white government too wouldn't be how it can enforce the Germanic language or arts in this case, but how it might also pay patronage to local ethnic groups to extend its reach in exchange for cultural protection from the cultural conversion, itself then intensifying local tribal or cultural rivalries or relationships.
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I assumed since it was, everything was up for grab. But I can edit out Spanish Guinea and also the bowling of the natives.

I had originally thought that Oberst Hurst had just declared it a Duchy. But I can seek out from Germany if the Kaiser could have ennobled it for such a purpose.

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Yes, yes. Got it. Will edit.

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Well an original idea might have been for the Kaiser to reclaim the colony. Although with the rapid growth of the native population that idea might have changed.

I guess something of a German Commonwealth? With friendly, economic ties and exchange of people and tourism. Although, reclaiming it as German property might be a difficulty due to the native growth. It can acknowledge the Kaiser of Germany as it's Kaiser.
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Okay so I've been doing a little bit of looking and I'm liking what I'm seeing. I think I'll give NRP another go, seeing as even after my long hiatus I still crave for it.

Currently thinking of an independent Algeria, maybe with a large minority of French Europeans within their borders? Maybe more liberal europeans who are more like the ones in the Peoples Republic? (I remember the mention of Old Republic Frenchies getting kicked outta North Africa)

Maybe a country thinking of uniting North Africa through unions? Morocco first, I think. Pretty sure if the Spanish haven't changed, at this part of history the Moroccans have gained independence.

Any possibilities in that? Would have to speak to anyone who is interestes in France and Spain of course. And I don't think I could write with the incredible detail some of these posts are written in but I can damn well try.
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@SgtEasy, What about Egypt? It's free.
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I assumed since it was, everything was up for grab. But I can edit out Spanish Guinea and also the bowling of the natives.


It is, but we want everything internally consistent. If we let Spain get invaded in the past then a later Spanish player'd have to take that past invasion as fact, which would be awkward.

Okay so I've been doing a little bit of looking and I'm liking what I'm seeing. I think I'll give NRP another go, seeing as even after my long hiatus I still crave for it.

Currently thinking of an independent Algeria, maybe with a large minority of French Europeans within their borders? Maybe more liberal europeans who are more like the ones in the Peoples Republic? (I remember the mention of Old Republic Frenchies getting kicked outta North Africa)

Maybe a country thinking of uniting North Africa through unions? Morocco first, I think. Pretty sure if the Spanish haven't changed, at this part of history the Moroccans have gained independence.

Any possibilities in that? Would have to speak to anyone who is interestes in France and Spain of course. And I don't think I could write with the incredible detail some of these posts are written in but I can damn well try.


@asuraaa has France.

Now, Algeria is a good choice. Reading from Asuraa's app, it was French nationalists fleeing the revolution specifically that were kicked out of Algeria by Algerian nationalists. This leaves you a few choices.

1: Algerian nationalists, which is to say Arab Berbers, drove all the French out altogether and established their own state. This could be in the form of a proper republic or an Islamic cabal. This is probably the most likely outcome of Asuraa's scenario.

1 1/2: Same thing as above but the Pied Noirs were allowed to stay, though many left. Basically the real life scenario tweaked a bit.

2: The Algerian nationalists mentioned were in fact Pied-Noirs who made an apartheid government. They were traditionally conservative and tied to France, but they might make a realpolitik decision and side with the winners without officially submitting to the new French government. This would put them in a tense position because they'd be stuck between native Algerian nationalists who want to drive them out and a Left-Wing government in France which they wouldn't support and which would probably not like them back.

3: The Pied Noirs and Algerians learn to get along and create a join government. Maybe possible if the Pied Noirs decide to stay in Algeria after a nationalist government and become a political party within a government dominated by the Arabs. Realistically there is probably too much bad blood for this and it'd actually look more like 1 1/2

Your white population will probably be about 15 percent from what I've seen. Possibly lower if the Pied Noir are driven out with the French Right-wingers, possibly higher if they form a government with the Arabs.

Also, Morocco joining Algeria isn't very likely. Morocco is a pre-established monarchy with old roots. You could possibly get away with Morocco taking over Algeria, but that'd be biting off way more than they could chew and you'd have to accept rping a very very unstable country.

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@SgtEasy, What about Egypt? It's free.


Considered that but decided that having done Egypt once before is enough for me. Wanted to reach my fingers into more unfamiliar territory

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I'll consider the options youve given me, thanks for the help
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I got three questions that I might want an opinion on:

1) How large would be the white minority (aka Germans) in West Africa? Assuming that it has had about twenty years of relative peace and prosperity.

2) is it okay if German, started out as official language - is mostly nowadays used only in politics and perhaps in the upper echelons of the military and business? Namely banks. Also the white population.

3) Since it's 1960-ish - have most of the colonial powers managed to hold onto their colonies? Or have they mostly fought against their colonial occupiers and later turned into dictatorships?
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3) Since it's 1960-ish - have most of the colonial powers managed to hold onto their colonies? Or have they mostly fought against their colonial occupiers and later turned into dictatorships?


I kind of speak to this. At the moment Rhodesia broke away from Britain at the end of the Great War. I have RPed South Africa as still British but a shit show. Zambia is free like Rhodesia. Read my app, might five you some ideas.
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Would a white population of about one million be good enough in West Afrika? Hence being this world version of South Africa - minus the apartheid regime.

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