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Is the language barrier important here? I can't remember if it was explained or handwaved how people like Waver and Bazett just walk into Japan and fluently deal with whoever they meet.


It probably won't be. We'll just chalk it up to translation magic. Explains how somebody who can only speak ancient greek can speak japanese.
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Oh, cool. Though, these may seem just a lil' silly.

1)Is it allowed for players to copy a canon character's abilities and then stick them onto an 'OC'. For example, I think Lancelot had knight of owner(correct me if I'm wrong), so could you copy and use that?

2)The characters in Fate are like heroes or famous people right?(and genderbent, I thought that was odd. Way to ruin Jack the Ripper). Are all cultures allowed? Like Greek heroes, Roman heroes, etc

3) I'm assuming history will have major alterations? Not that I'm a history buff or anything, I just thought that was something I should ask.

Again, silly questions.
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Oh, cool. Though, these may seem just a lil' silly.

1)Is it allowed for players to copy a canon character's abilities and then stick them onto an 'OC'. For example, I think Lancelot had knight of owner(correct me if I'm wrong), so could you copy and use that?

2)The characters in Fate are like heroes or famous people right?(and genderbent, I thought that was odd. Way to ruin Jack the Ripper). Are all cultures allowed? Like Greek heroes, Roman heroes, etc

3) I'm assuming history will have major alterations? Not that I'm a history buff or anything, I just thought that was something I should ask.

Again, silly questions.


1) While it is possible for various characters to have similar abilities, since certain heroes have similar feats. (Hercules isn't the first hero to have a series of trials to make amends for murder). So if you can justify certain skills or noble phantasms to another character, then that's acceptable.

2) Yes, they are usually famous historical or fictional characters. Sherlock Holmes has even appeared. But mostly historical characters tend to be better. And it's not just Greek and Roman. Characters from Hindu or Persian stories can appear too. It's mostly a matter of if their myth is still known. (You can genderflip characters, since it might help avoid a major sausagefest of servant characters depending.)

3) What history are we referring to? The history of 1939? It's possible depending on what happens. (And if what happens is particularly big and changes history completely then I may do a follow-up.) But if you refer to the historical histories of characters, they don't really change. Some stuff can be different depending, but oftentimes not really.
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2)The characters in Fate are like heroes or famous people right?(and genderbent, I thought that was odd. Way to ruin Jack the Ripper). Are all cultures allowed? Like Greek heroes, Roman heroes, etc


There are actually a lot of theories out there that Jack the Ripper was actually a woman. A mid-wife more specifically, if I recall correctly.
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Cool, cool. Thank you for the clarification. I may throw a sheet up, if my schedule will allow it.
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There are actually a lot of theories out there that Jack the Ripper was actually a woman. A mid-wife more specifically, if I recall correctly.


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So, I think there is a mistaken bit of info here.
1) You do not create your own Master and Servant pairing. You make a Master and Servant, and then I'm going to place them on different teams. (That way we can get people interacting rather than a lot of "Me and me are talking and talking, and we're getting along great! That way we work flawlessly together. So instead there can be some back and forth. Etc.)

2) And looking at the list, I'd suggest either going way smaller in historical significance, or just making a non-actual person. I say this because I don't like personally like the idea of Winston Churchill running around 1939 political hotbed of Germany weeks before they invade Poland. He'd probably have a middle man doing the work for him. (Most of them probably would.)
Because as interesting as that story would be, most Masters end up dead, and full blown alternate history probably won't be where this goes. (Anne Frank is honestly your best bet if you really insist on this.)

3) If you can provide good reasons for why they'd be there, beyond just being mages, I'll think it over again. But I'm just not seeing it.


Anne Frank it is then.
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It's unfortunate that Merlin and Solomon don't qualify though since they're still living. Maybe the Queen of Sheba?

Also I'm expressing my likely interest and all that. Been discussing things with the GM via PM.
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So, at the moment 9 people (including me) seem to have shown interest. Thankfully this is why I we've got more slots. (As well as NPC Masters/Servants).

So I'll be starting up a Discord soon, and possibly opening up a OOC for character bios within a day. If you want to hold a spot for a certain servant class, let me know. That way we can avoid tripling up. Since we're doubling up on classes at most. (2 Casters, 2 Assassins, 2 sabers, etc. There won't be 3s of classes.)
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I'd like to reserve a spot for Archer, For my kool kharacter
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While the setting of this HGW isn't exactly my cup of tea for the complications it might cause, the structure of this RP is reasonable enough; I'll let my tentative interest for this be known.

I'll wait before confirming my participation, though. In case I do, I have a few questions that I'd like answered:

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- Will we be required to make use of Discord? Instant messaging is something I prefer to avoid since I don't have enough free time to keep up with it, so this is one of the major factors for me.

- While I understand that new Servants might be your preference, the canon ones are some of the most iconic heroes and legends that pretty much any master would wish to summon in a HGW so, why is it we can't use their canon statistics? Remaking them might as well cause more problems than it's worth. Just to put this into consideration, I have a strong inclination to using Archer Atalanta and now I'm looking for a chance to play her Berserker version, having to rewrite her would be really beyond complicated, in case I decide to join.

- How in-depth do you want the characters to be as far as Nasuverse terminology and lore go? I've had more than enough of my fair share of Fate RPs ruined by overzealous GMs and players arguing about all kinds things. If you want the game to be detailed in the extreme like listing all the spells a magus PC knows, what are the full contents of their Family Crest, their Origin explained in details, etc, I'll abstain from joining for certain.

I apologize beforehand if it looks like I'm scrutinizing your RP, but I'd like to avoid any misunderstandings that might come down the line. If I know your expectations I can be certain whether or not I'm capable of/willing to fulfill them.
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While the setting of this HGW isn't exactly my cup of tea for the complications it might cause, the structure of this RP is reasonable enough; I'll let my tentative interest for this be known.

I'll wait before confirming my participation, though. In case I do, I have a few questions that I'd like answered:

@Reflection

- Will we be required to make use of Discord? Instant messaging is something I prefer to avoid since I don't have enough free time to keep up with it, so this is one of the major factors for me.

- While I understand that new Servants might be your preference, the canon ones are some of the most iconic heroes and legends that pretty much any master would wish to summon in a HGW so, why is it we can't use their canon statistics? Remaking them might as well cause more problems than it's worth. Just to put this into consideration, I have a strong inclination to using Archer Atalanta and now I'm looking for a chance to play her Berserker version, having to rewrite her would be really beyond complicated, in case I decide to join.

- How in-depth do you want the characters to be as far as Nasuverse terminology and lore go? I've had more than enough of my fair share of Fate RPs ruined by overzealous GMs and players arguing about all kinds things. If you want the game to be detailed in the extreme like listing all the spells a magus PC knows, what are the full contents of their Family Crest, their Origin explained in details, etc, I'll abstain from joining for certain.

I apologize beforehand if it looks like I'm scrutinizing your RP, but I'd like to avoid any misunderstandings that might come down the line. If I know your expectations I can be certain whether or not I'm capable of/willing to fulfill them.


1) Discord will not be required. But it helps with organizing stuff and allows people to chat up ideas on the side. So it's fine if you're not interested, I'll still post most major announcements in an OOC.
2) I'd honestly prefer people not just do direct one to one copies of canon heroes. Not because I'm against it, but because I'd rather people be able to add their own spin or ideas rather than have a whole cast of characters directly lifted from the anime. If you want to use Atalanta, that's fine. And you could probably get away with just copying her general powers and what not over.
3) Don't worry. I'm honestly pretty lax on it. I mostly request that the more powerful spells be explained, and maybe some direction for how their magic works. (There will be no need for all that crest nonsense.) Mostly I just want enough, so that nobody tries pulling something like "Well my character also has a spell that makes heart explodes, even though all of his other abilities are related to water bending."

And thank you for asking questions. I'll keep you as a tentative.

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1) Discord will not be required. But it helps with organizing stuff and allows people to chat up ideas on the side. So it's fine if you're not interested, I'll still post most major announcements in an OOC.
2) I'd honestly prefer people not just do direct one to one copies of canon heroes. Not because I'm against it, but because I'd rather people be able to add their own spin or ideas rather than have a whole cast of characters directly lifted from the anime. If you want to use Atalanta, that's fine. And you could probably get away with just copying her general powers and what not over.
3) Don't worry. I'm honestly pretty lax on it. I mostly request that the more powerful spells be explained, and maybe some direction for how their magic works. (There will be no need for all that crest nonsense.) Mostly I just want enough, so that nobody tries pulling something like "Well my character also has a spell that makes heart explodes, even though all of his other abilities are related to water bending."

And thank you for asking questions. I'll keep you as a tentative.

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Ah, thanks for the reply. I'll scuttle around and decide whether or not I'm able to join as soon as I get update my college schedule.

Also, I get what you mean with the Servants; that wouldn't be exactly my case as well since there are a few aspects of the canon Atalanta (mostly byproducts of Apocrypha's insanely bad writing) that I'm not very fond off either so it will not be a 1:1 copy, in case I'm free enough to dedicate sometime for this.
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Interest is high. I'll be joining.

Looking at my mage being male, will have more later.

Servant will be one of two or three ideas.

One is a Berserker, the normally weaker made stronger. With a small twist due to lore. Who knows about King Lycaon?

If Berserker is taken I'll be taking more time to do a little research. Maybe a Japanese hero. We haven't seen a lot of eastern hero's.
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Interest is high. I'll be joining.

Looking at my mage being male, will have more later.

Servant will be one of two or three ideas.

One is a Berserker, the normally weaker made stronger. With a small twist due to lore. Who knows about King Lycaon?

If Berserker is taken I'll be taking more time to do a little research. Maybe a Japanese hero. We haven't seen a lot of eastern hero's.


Somebody also has interest in berserker. But since we're allowing double ups, it's fine.
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Hm, alright. I'm willing to change if their not and it comes up.
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So, quick reviews. Will probably have more depth later.

@Grape Not bad. Something like wind would probably require a catalyst. (Most magic now a days does in Fate. The ones usually exempt from the catalyst rule tend to be Casters, but they're from a long period ago where magic was more powerful.) I want to see what you come up with for a history and personality.
As for your Servant, I recommend fluffing the backstory a bit. Like of the particular stories about this particular Valkyrie. Lancer's tend to have Magic Resistance (Usually the higher the rank the more they resist.) and as a Valkyrie she'd probably have divinity as a skill. (Which just means she's divine and certain people might be weaker to that.) Also consider your Noble Phantasm a bit. (Some servants have more than one, so you can mess around a bit with ideas. I recommend using Name: /Rank: /Type: /Description: to help you flesh it out more. (Type is usually anti-person/anti-army/Bounded Field, etc. (Bounded Fields are usually some kind of area buff or territory that the servant is stronger in. Anti-person is single target, and Anti-Army is your super move that could wipe out an army.) Also, as a Valykrie consider a skill based around judging others, like seeing lies.

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I'm going flat no to Tan Vien Son Thanh. Mostly because Gods, except in rare cases (Chiron, but he gave up his immortality) tend not to show up for Grail Wars. Also, his power just being Earth powers doesn't really endear me to the concept of him. He's probably too powerful, and I have no doubt you'd kill your own mage in a minute with that mana drain.
As for Viktor Muller, he's better. (You didn't copy a wiki page.) But I'd need more of a history, and mages tend to only have one element, not all five. (That's kinda unheard of.) As well as his magic is kinda all over the place. The ability to shape stuff most likely wouldn't be fire related.
Since I'm guessing you're new to the series, if you need help, just ask and I'll help write down what certain aspects might help you develop your characters.
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@Grape Not bad. Something like wind would probably require a catalyst. (Most magic now a days does in Fate. The ones usually exempt from the catalyst rule tend to be Casters, but they're from a long period ago where magic was more powerful.) I want to see what you come up with for a history and personality.
As for your Servant, I recommend fluffing the backstory a bit. Like of the particular stories about this particular Valkyrie. Lancer's tend to have Magic Resistance (Usually the higher the rank the more they resist.) and as a Valkyrie she'd probably have divinity as a skill. (Which just means she's divine and certain people might be weaker to that.) Also consider your Noble Phantasm a bit. (Some servants have more than one, so you can mess around a bit with ideas. I recommend using Name: /Rank: /Type: /Description: to help you flesh it out more. (Type is usually anti-person/anti-army/Bounded Field, etc. (Bounded Fields are usually some kind of area buff or territory that the servant is stronger in. Anti-person is single target, and Anti-Army is your super move that could wipe out an army.) Also, as a Valykrie consider a skill based around judging others, like seeing lies.


Thank you so much for clearing up some stuff! I have seen a bit here and there of the show so I have a general, baseline idea of the concept so the help is truly appreciated.

For Loralie I will give her some sort of catalyst to use her magecraft. Also, finish up her personality and bio.

For Hildr I'll adjust accordingly! :D I will flesh out more of a backstory though most of it will be made up, as what I have written down was all that was available on the wiki haha. I will try my best to keep it all in the vein of what is already established with Hildr.
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