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I assume everything is fine with my profile? I would also like to recite my request to be on the Small Council. Either as Hand or Master of Ships if possible
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I assume everything is fine with my profile? I would also like to recite my request to be on the Small Council. Either as Hand or Master of Ships if possible.


Not exactly.

This is a Great House. Even though they're new to that scene, the Tyrells need more fleshing out than a single (contradictive) character with a biography spanning just two paragraphs. As I've said previously: I'd like to see more on his weaknesses, as well as some effort to even out his personality. As it stands, Matthos looks more like a secondary character than a main one.

I refer to my earlier remarks. Not that I want to brag, but I advise you to take a look at my own WIP House Sheet. This should give you an idea of the nature of the sheet we are looking for. Another point to elaborate on would be the Tyrell relationship with their bannermen. They're a young House, with a questionable claim to overlordship of the Reach. There are other, older families with a better (blood) claim to Highgarden and the Lord Paramount title.
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Not exactly.

This is a Great House. Even though they're new to that scene, the Tyrells need more fleshing out than a single (contradictive) character with a biography spanning just two paragraphs. As I've said previously: I'd like to see more on his weaknesses, as well as some effort to even out his personality. As it stands, Matthos looks more like a secondary character than a main one.

I refer to my earlier remarks. Not that I want to brag, but I advise you to take a look at my own WIP House Sheet. This should give you an idea of the nature of the sheet we are looking for. Another point to elaborate on would be the Tyrell relationship with their bannermen. They're a young House, with a questionable claim to overlordship of the Reach. There are other, older families with a better (blood) claim to Highgarden and the Lord Paramount title.


Is it better now?
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Is it better now?


Who is Lucien?
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Who is Lucien?


Forgot to change the name. He’s my past OC Tyrell
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Who is Lucien?


Ok there we go. It should all be the right name now
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Ok there we go. It should all be the right name now


I appreciate the efforts you've taken so far.

The weakness you list is one that regards his house and situtation. While I believe it is a correct assessment regarding the times, it does not relate to him as a character. Where are the flaws in his personality? Right now he's a Gary Stu.

Were you planning on adding more House members?

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I appreciate the efforts you've taken so far.

The weakness you list is one that regards his house and situtation. While I believe it is a correct assessment regarding the times, it does not relate to him as a character. Where are the flaws in his personality? Right now he's a Gary Stu.

Were you planning on adding more House members?


A weakness doesn’t always have to do with one’s personality. The things I’ve listed could bring the character down just as well. However, if you’re adamant on one regarding personality, you can say he’s overly ambitious which I do believe I’ve mentioned but just not in the “Weaknesses” field.

And perhaps in the future
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Ok there we go. It should all be the right name now


There are still a bunch of 'Lucien' references in your sheet. I counted nine.


A weakness doesn’t always have to do with one’s personality. The things I’ve listed could bring the character down just as well. However, if you’re adamant on one regarding personality, you can say he’s overly ambitious which I do believe I’ve mentioned but just not in the “Weaknesses” field.


Indeed it doesn't. But this is GoT and advanced. There's no room for Ser Gary of House Stu. I want to see flawed characters. Nobody's perfect. The 'overly ambitious' route can work, as it's a common one and has led to many a man/woman's downfall. It's also just one element. Where are his quirks? His peeves? Doubts and guilt? I still can't help but feel that Matthos, in his current state, is a flat character.

And perhaps in the future


Now. A Great House consisting of just the one guy is not the way to go about it. Branch out, challenge yourself. Multiple POVs make it more fun and immersive, and offer other player characters more chance to interact with yours. Picking a Great House implies you facilitate roleplay and pick up more than just the one character.

To me the House Sheet falls short of the mark, particularly since it is a Great House. You must realise we scrutinise these even more than lesser ones. Perhaps the other GMs may chip in when they have time @Ruby and @Ezekiel.
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House Saan



House Saan is an ancient noble family hailing from the Free City of Lys and descending from the dragonlords of Old Valyria. The House has the dubious distinction of also being the progenitor of a number of successful pirate lords. During the reign of Aegon I there was the pirate King Sargosso Saan, and more recently the pirate lords of Wreckstone, Sharako Saan and his son Lysono.

Currently the House is split into two different factions on either side of Daemon Targaryen's war for the Stepstones, House Saan of Lys and House Saan of Wreckstone. House Saan of Lys is the senior of the two branches of the family and is active in the magisterial politics of the Free City of Lys and the wider Kingdom of the Three Daughters. The junior branch, House Saan of Wreckstone, are pirate lords based on the Isle of Wreckstone, and are currently a vassal of the Kingdom of the Stepstones and the Narrow Sea.

House Saan of Lys



The Lysene branch of House Saan is both the senior of the two and the more powerful, prestigious branch. Headed by Magister Samarro Saan, its members are predominantly made up of his own children, although other descendants through matrilineal line can be found in both the noble Houses of Ormollen and Sathmantes. Samarro is a man near the height of his power, a rich and well respected trader who sits on the Conclave of Magisters which rules the Free City of Lys. He has numerous sons and grandsons to succeeded his legacy and has made shrewd political alliances with other Lysene houses like the Rogares. However, a threat to his family lies in their renegade cousin, Lysono of Wreckstone, whose actions in the War for the Stepstones have raised questions about the loyalties of House Saan as a whole and has soured relations with other members of the Triachy.
House Members:

  • Magister Samarro Saan (55), current Patriarch of House Saan and sitting Magister of the Free City of Lys. Widower.

    • Sylvarrio Saan (32), Samarro's eldest son and heir apparent, manages most of the families mercantile activities . Married to Ryella Ormollen.
      • Syaella Saan (10), daughter of Sylvarrio, twin of Syaello.
      • Syaello Saan (10), son of Sylvarrio, twin of Syaella.
      • Saera Saan (6), daughter of Sylvarrio.

    • Salloreon Saan (29), Sammarro's second son, a captain of the city watch of Lys. Married to Elaena Saan.
      • Saathos Saan (8), son of Salloreon and Elaena, nephew of Lysono.
      • Selenya Saan (5), daughter of Salloreon and Elaena, niece of Lysono.

    • Saenerys Saan (27), daughter of Sammarro. Married to Lysandro Rogare, politician and banker.

    • Syrio Saan (24), third son of Sammarro, proprietor of notable pleasure house. Bachelor.

    • Saenyx Saan (21), youngest son of Sammarro, apprentice to the Lysene alchemist guild. Bachelor.


House Saan of Wreckstone



Originally founded by Sharako Saan, a cousin of the Lysene Magister Samarro Saan, House Saan of Wreckstone is a fledgling house of Pirate Lords of the Stepstones. Until recently the house was landless after being purged from the Stepstones by the forces of the Triachy, but through allying itself with Daemon Targaryen's War for the Stepstones it has found fortune once more. Headed by the renegade and ambitious Lysono Saan, this small house represents a challenge to the status quo of Lysene politics.
House Members:

  • Elaena Saan, (27) daughter of Sharako Saan, currently resides with senior branch in Lys. Wife of Salloreon Saan.

  • Lysono Saan (25), son of Sharako Saan, pirate lord of Wreckstone. Bachelor.

  • Vysenna Saan (20), daughter of Sharako Saan. Debutante at King Daemon's court.

Captains of the Wreckstone Fleet:

  • Khorane Marr, Lysono's trusted leftenant, the one captain of his father's fleet who returned to Lys after the mutiny.
  • Gerald the Green, Lysono's closest companion, a young Dornish orphan of the green blood.
  • Skullsplitter Stygg, an Ironborn raider.

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So yeah, fleshed out the Saan family a little bit more to give me some more pieces to move. Also changed the age of Lysono and the timeline of his life, because I got the relative ages of him to other members of the dance wrong when I made it the first time round. Will add more full C.S's and captains to the list there at some point probably...
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I love it, feel free to drop the whole thing in the Character Tab :)
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We've got a good roster of pirates! I can't wait for some high-seas shenanigans 😎
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We've got a good roster of pirates! I can't wait for some high-seas shenanigans 😎


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No idea how to top those two, but have at ye

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Darn. I was itching to potentially play this guy, the king of the Basilisk Islands: awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Saathos…

But the Saans are taken. Oh well. I may think of another char idea.
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Ruby forcibly dragged me (but not really) out of my extremely long absence from Roleplayer Guild by dangling this roleplay in front of me. I'll be posting one or more character sheets in the near future, just wanted to make my presence and interest known.
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Ruby forcibly dragged me (but not really) out of my extremely long absence from Roleplayer Guild by dangling this roleplay in front of me. I'll be posting one or more character sheets in the near future, just wanted to make my presence and interest known.


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Here is House Stark. I considered making Ellard's wife, but that would probably be another two days of writing for a character that I don't envision myself writing very often, so for now she'll just be an NPC. Let me know if there's anything that needs to be fixed :)

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