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Lucille is going to have another long chat with her subordinates about following directions.
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Lucille is going to have another long chat with her subordinates about following directions.


I guess she's noticing a critical problem of the Nexus a bit too late, hehehe.
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I shut down my computer mid-progress on that CS. I fucked up. I'll work on it in a bit.

Edit: I have hit a rut with her history.


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Can I assume Bonesword is out of Arcadia? The battle is leaning in Machina favor either way.
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@TheWindel I believe every angel has left, been incapacitated, or made clear their intent to run with what they have. The demons are similar, except Balrog still stands. Presuming all the Machina stand in a line for a good reaper beaming, or die of Victoire's mist, he could theoretically win.

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Zak is still there.
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Wait no he's not. Harley needs to scold him for being a coward.
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Henry is still around, but is kinda getting ganged up on and I think Bastion was about to murder him with magic eye hax. So he probably won't last long.
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@TheWindel Zak needs to scold Harley for being about as useful as a box of fortune cookies.
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Zak needs to scold Harley for being about as useful as a box of fortune cookies.


Much like myself, Harley is not obliged to hold your hand in the big scary IC.
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@TheWindel Unlike yourself, Harley is not obliged any credit either.
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Hey, people, if my last post didn't make it clear, let me say it again. Victoire's roses aren't watered down acid. That's magical demonic corruption eating away at people. Even if you blew away some of the fog, it doesn't take long for more fill its place. The Machina are ignoring a lot, I mean a huge lot of its effects by fighting as if they weren't blinded and being eaten alive by it. That's very aggravating for me, so I had to remember that the longer you stay on it, the worse it gets.

With how long the roses have been in effect, I find it unlikely that any of you will be able to defeat Balrog and Henry before dying to the mist. You should have countered it way before to have any chance.
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So, dumb question. Once it gets to 'eat off your face with acid' level how are you supposed to counter it? Besides carpet nuking the entire battlefield I mean.

As for ignoring it, I think its because it's hard for us to determine what the particular effect of it will be at points, so we can only guess and hope that it's right. Victoire's character sheet only has 'has blood powers', and the GMs have made no mention of it in the past three pages, so we've been left to figure out on our own how it escalates in effectiveness. Which, unsurprisingly, has resulted in us doing what we want to fight an actual battle rather than everyone dying of environmental hazards.

On the plus side at least Henry won't get Bastion. :P
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So, dumb question. Once it gets to 'eat off your face with acid' level how are you supposed to counter it? Besides carpet nuking the entire battlefield I mean.


The only way I can see that would destroy them at this point would be nuking the whole place. This is why I always make it clear to tell when Victoire is beginning to set her rose fields, once they are too widespread it's hard to win against them. It's her main advantage on this RP, late game dominance, like any decent mage character.

That said, Zac could have won easily with his powers. Victoire isn't omnipotent, but against Machina she's really hard to take down. Bonesword bailing out was the worst move ever for them, since he was the only one not affected by the Roses, given that he's technically a Demon.

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To put it simply, and in Windel's words: "People are stupid." The two only combatants with good chances of changing the game left the battle. Sad, but true.
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Right then. As future advice, perhaps you should stick around in future battles to provide updates on how far the acid stuff has spread and how effective it is even after Victoire has left the battle. Because none of us have known since she was removed back on page 25, which probably explains why you are so disappointed that people haven't been dropping dead because of it. When we're left to draw our own conclusions, naturally we're going to err on the side of having a cool scene in a fight rather than getting impotently murdered by environmental hazards. It isn't in her character sheet after all.

And as a general statement to everyone else in the thread, I would like to now laugh in your face and say "Hah, I told you so."
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Right then. As future advice, perhaps you should stick around in future battles to provide updates on how far the acid stuff has spread and how effective it is even after Victoire has left the battle. Because none of us have known since she was removed back on page 25, which probably explains why you are so disappointed that people haven't been dropping dead because of it. When we're left to draw our own conclusions, naturally we're going to err on the side of having a cool scene in a fight rather than getting impotently murdered by environmental hazards. It isn't in her character sheet after all.

And as a general statement to everyone else in the thread, I would like to now laugh in your face and say "Hah, I told you so."


I'll keep that in mind. Last week was hard on me so I couldn't pay as much attention as I'd like to, but I'll try to give more prompts from now on.

As for Character Sheets, I'll eventually update mine, but I think I've been keeping Victoire sufficiently consistent over the time for that to not feel like an underhanded move. If not, you can tell me.
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Right then. As future advice, perhaps you should stick around in future battles to provide updates on how far the acid stuff has spread and how effective it is even after Victoire has left the battle. Because none of us have known since she was removed back on page 25, which probably explains why you are so disappointed that people haven't been dropping dead because of it. When we're left to draw our own conclusions, naturally we're going to err on the side of having a cool scene in a fight rather than getting impotently murdered by environmental hazards. It isn't in her character sheet after all.

And as a general statement to everyone else in the thread, I would like to now laugh in your face and say "Hah, I told you so."


It may not be implicitely on the CS sheet, but Victoire has used this in every battle she's participated in since the beginning of the RP.
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It may not be implicitely on the CS sheet, but Victoire has used this in every battle she's participated in since the beginning of the RP.


I mean, I know that. The power not being listed on the CS is more problematic because it does not lay out the natural progression of the flower/acid and, say, at what point it goes from 'annoying' to 'kill you and dissolve your body inside a minute'. So without GM prompting there is no easy way to go see how much damage it should be doing to your character
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And as a general statement to everyone else in the thread, I would like to now laugh in your face and say "Hah, I told you so."


Or at least those still in battle.

My characters only pulled out before that because of the severe amount of damage they've taken.

Or in Zeruel's case, that and well... PLOT I suppose.

Ghelgath was both wounded and morally deprived after Victorie was eliminated.
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Usually, I tend to describe it more as a mater of Area of Effect than of Power of Effect. Excusing the edges of the cloud, which are naturally thinner, once you are enveloped fully on it, the damage is quite constant and, against the Machina it's quite severe as well. Kinda like Warcraft III' Death and Decay.

My scale of how long it would take to destroy a target is based on how long I thought that it would take for Victoire to take down something like the Elicitor or the Contender from previous battles. Around 5 or 6 post rotations, with would be around say... 2 and a half to 3 IC pages. That's a pretty big window because of the usual number of combatants we have around, you can draw your conclusions based on this.

Without a damage system it's rather hard to work anything more specific, but I guess I can do it later for the sake of simplicity.
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