Andreyich

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Uh...This kid (and I swear he does not appear to be 18 and up.) Told me, "youtubers are greedy because others freely support them with money." And also tried defending communism perspectives...That's about as right leaning economically. As jumping off a building, to stop yourself from polluting the earth. :/

You got me

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The area around Marienburg is called "the Wasteland" not because of its actual terrain but as an insult. Basically because Marienburg became somewhat independent (they're warhammer's netherlands more or less), everyone else in the Empire got salty and just started calling the area around the city "the Wasteland" as a sort of fuck you.

@ClocktowerEchos

Really? Interesting though I could have sworn that it really was a wasteland due to being more Northern mostly. Though, now that I come to think of it the parallel of it being Batavia wanting to leave the Holy Roman Empire and then being hated for it makes a lot of sense.

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You said you want all Chinese to move out. I called it racism. Something you called yourself, then changed your mind. You flipped me off

Exactly, you insisted on throwing shit at me for caring about the well-being of fatherland.

So yes, you unironically calling yourself an edgelord and saying you get radicalized like you'll become a white terrorist and being unnecessarily hostile when I really wasn't

I'm not going to become that but the possibility is quite frightening.

But it's not a strawman, because it's a very real thing that does in fact happen even if exaggerated.

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@Andreyich



You are a political strawman that exists in real life.

@SleepingSilence

That's pretty fucking ironic

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@Andreyich AH YES. I remember now. Sure, as long as don't take Ostland or the Moot, Marienburg is fine.

@POOHEAD189

Alright, then the other guy gets those and I get the Wasteland.

Another Question though, can it be not a Wasteland but rather sort of Alpine, kind of like some of Austria/Italy/Finland while to the south is a more continental clime?

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goddamit. IQ tests are imperfect measures of intelligence.

no such a thing as perfect anything. It's pretty good though

@Andreyich *sigh*

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That's a stupid rebuttal. I'm sure doctors, lawyers and teachers want to feed their families too. Do we not pay them?

@SleepingSilence

That's a shit analogy

Again, non-statement. No, it's not greedy...If others -want- to pay you. You sound very much like someone demonizing a company for making money, right now and you didn't have that opinion before.

and that's a shit comparison/deduction.

Because you don't seem to understand, that people should get paid for work.

That's not work lol especially since nobody even looks at the ads for these videos so they're a one man breakdown of any economic system.

Again there's a lot of sub-par workers in general, they get paid too. :/ Whatever you're arguing, and at this point I'm not even sure what it is...it's wrong.

They get fired lol

+12-17 points difference on average is not -very- little...

That's hyperbole, and because the smart get rich, not vice versa.

The point remains that it doesn't even measure overall intelligence well at all...

Yes it does. Not perfectly but well enough for someone to come to all sorts of wonderful conclusions from it.

I suppose that last statement kind of just goes past anything, but spiteful racism...

Man I'm fucking evil because I want the Chinese to stop dumping shit in our country and violating all sorts of international laws that even my country goes by and because they flood in their workers who via numbers replace the native workers thus increasing the already pretty big amount of poor people we have. Aren't I an evil bastard.
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saying shit like that is how ordinary edgelords like me get radicalized

EDIT: I also realized that this is in a way similar to what happened in some of the middle east, with my country playing some arab nation and China being the U.S. and the poster above somebody annoying an already disgruntled person from there making them join some terrorist group in frustration.

Shit's deep yo, this actually makes me reconsider some jingoistic/xenophobic beliefs I had towards some people from the Middle East.

But no, it CAN'T do that. It DOESN'T show your peak...I just said, you can improve your scores...

You can but only temporarily; the IQ of children in MENA was improved in some recent tests but only by preparing them specifically for the test and asking near identical questions.

Studies have found significant increase in IQ from one generation to the other. It increases 21 points on an average in 30 years. Such an increase can result only from the surrounding environment. Hence, it is proved that IQ does change based on the environment.

That's to do with selection and the next generation being more intelligent, not to mention as said earlier that Africans in France have reduced the IQ by more than 4 points over the same time span.

You're trying to tell me, that race mixing hasn't been a thing? I'm sorry to jump in the accusatory statements, but I think you're flat out being intellectually dishonest here...

No, I'm saying that this isn't anything new and has been going on for the last 1500+ years but might I note that the Israelites were told not to mix their seed, and surprise surprise they got the highest IQ of all groups.

You may not see America being diverse, being a good thing. But I certainly do. I love the melting pot concept. And I wouldn't live anywhere else.

Yes, but see you won't stay a melting pot, you'll turn into a homogenous society in about 100 years. Brazil used to be a melting pot, now it's all of the same thing with only a few holdouts of unique cultural communities that still keep their culture and ethnicity in tact.

European debt crisis: It's not just Greece that's drowning in debt

Nothing new, but I do think blaming merkel is a great idea; Poland is ethnically homogenous and would you look at that, no terrorism!

Yes, Violent Crime Has Spiked In Sweden Since Open Immigration

stop being so intolerant, this is part and parcel of living in a big city

Europe is failing, and Merkel can’t save it

It does say "opinion" in the title but I do think it's right. That said, new coalitions of sane countries are forming, i.e. Austria and Balkan friends. Good lads in Macedonia are even tear-gassing and and blasting rubber at the invaders, whilst Serbia is slowly deciding to not join the EU, and is forcefully removing kebab independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/s…

So in short, EU is failing, not Europe. The states that lived under communism now see the retardation inherent in the left, though Western Europe is going to have to learn with it's blood.

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Yes, youtubers make money. People need money to live. This notion they only do it for money (and that equals bad) is absurd, because most of them don't make as much money.

They want to though.

It's harder than most think, you DO need some kind of passion or drive for most kinds of jobs. Just because a desk job sucks, doesn't mean musicians, artists and writers and the like. Don't deserve to get paid...

Or you know, just a little greed.

And if you really try to say the best advancements and quality products in the world weren't made to make profit. You're wrong. Moving on, to you finding it amusing that a human is paid by other human beings because they desired to...how the free market is suppose to work.

True, but a lot of sub-par ones were made too. I also don't know how the fuck we got on the subject of a free market but w/e.

It doesn't matter what's on the test. It doesn't do a good job in testing smartness, ignoring that it doesn't factor a wide variety of things, especially isn't useful in the long term, because you can improve them.

By very little, and yes it does.

And stress when you take it, highly effects the scores...and you can't tell me poverty won't lead to that stress.

There's a billion things to modify the scores, but not significantly. Anyway most know variables i.e. this are accounted for.

The environmental differences between entire countries are ridiculous.

Yes but the point is that these tests are designed to consider intelligence no matter the environment, merely your true 'peak' intelligence.

And the part 2 videos, last point is. Races are mixing more than ever and the culture now has vastly changed from when the test started in the first place.

That's wrong, quite simply. From the moors mass rapes to the Conquistadors fucking even vaguely shaped like a woman there were a lot of times when race mixing was quite a bit bigger. And even then, so what? The lines are being blurred, and this only adds to my point since France, has progressively fallen in average IQ score as more blacks are brought in and born despite having excellent environment. Another good thing to look into is twin studies. In these, twins are isolated and adopted by wholly different families. They tend to show similar traits and IQ scores despite wholly different environments from economic to social conditions.

So it's becoming more and more of a non-importance.

Not really, since nationalism has undergone a recent revival in many places.

And it also highlighted that even "trying to prove genetics on intelligence" isn't just an innocent means for truth, but it almost always leads to people behaving prejudice and thinking others join this "we're better than you" mentality which is straight up unhealthy social behavior.

Maybe that isn't good in America which has a lot of """diversity""" but having such a mindset in Europe is quite handy, since this helps preserve institutions that are uniquely European. I sure as hell would love it for my country to finally kick out all the Chinese flooding in.

It gets into straight up intellectual dishonesty.

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weren't you talking like five posts ago about how literally one's entire life and free will are determined by their genetics?

@mdk

Evolution and genetic determination are very important except for when you look at how it affects different human groups because that's raycis and wrong :^))))))

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There's been a lot race realism drama online recently, that I've been observing. Several youtubers making videos of such. And one thing that I see being talked about is the race bell curve and genetics in intelligence.

Youtubers almost solely exist to make $$$ not to do quality shit.

That testing was done by comparing entire countries...war torn countries in Africa vs wealthy places of other countries and tried to make it about the race, and not about the poverty. But the same races had 12-17 point deviations on IQ, when comparing rich and poor. And also, one I can personally attest to myself. Anxiety can wildly vary the IQ score as well.

And? the people in the same income range had different IQ scores based on race, although this may have more to do with diversity quotas and affirmative action making the less qualified take positions they shouldn't be in, so I guess in some areas where these two things exist that is a non-point for me.

Though again, it's not 100% proven either way. It seems pretty clear this is an environmental/poverty issue. And is not connected to genetics. And the IQ test as it is, isn't a wholly accurate measurement of IQ in the first place.

It's not 100% accurate but in general, g IQ is how smart you are whether you like it or not. The tests are also generally designed to have non-academic questions and such that do not rely on the acquired knowledge one gets throughout life but rather just the innate intelligence they were born with.

@Andreyich I'd encourage you watch both of these, when you have nothing else to do. Because the first one is a bit boring, not going to lie. But I feel like since you do follow some of that train of thought, it may be helpful.

While I do have to agree that stefan is a bit of a whackjob imam of ancapistan, these videos are also meh.

Also, I got a few shits and giggles out of the following:

Published on Oct 5, 2016
I'm going to update the citations once this is done and I can stand to look at these videos again. What a pain in the ass.

Aaaaaand months later I realize I never did. I've been avoiding this topic for months. Maybe we'll touch on it again.

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Published on Oct 5, 2016
I'm going to update the citations once part 2 is up. I'm currently building it while this is uploading. (they weren't added)

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