Pokemon and Digimon aren't even remotely the same. So I'll have to respectfully disagree.
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The recent release of Pokemon Go has given me an idea.
Imagine a world where, 20 years after the Pokemon franchise was born, a new way to play was created? It started as Pokemon Go, an app that allowed one to use GPS to track their location and uncover virtual Pokemon outside in the world. A few years later, it has become a revolutionary way to train Pokemon. Now the digital Pokemon captured by players can be truly put to test in virtual Pokemon battles. Special stadiums can be found all over that allow players to load in their chosen team of digital Pokemon and battle against opponents in a holographic simulated field, complete with actual images of the Pokemon visible for all to spectate. These stadiums can simulate various environments to spice up battles, or just generate a regulation stadium for the more tournament-savvy crowd. Now, people have begun set up actual gyms and hold actual Pokemon League tournaments, all thanks to the Virtual Pokemon that originated from that simple app, allowing players of any age to become Virtual-Trainers, or V-Trainers.
Okay, so the idea basically combines the concept of Pokemon Go with Gundam Build Fighters. It wouldn't take place in the Pokemon world, but rather the "real" world, where Pokemon was simply a series of video games and trading cards.
Imagine a world where, 20 years after the Pokemon franchise was born, a new way to play was created? It started as Pokemon Go, an app that allowed one to use GPS to track their location and uncover virtual Pokemon outside in the world. A few years later, it has become a revolutionary way to train Pokemon. Now the digital Pokemon captured by players can be truly put to test in virtual Pokemon battles. Special stadiums can be found all over that allow players to load in their chosen team of digital Pokemon and battle against opponents in a holographic simulated field, complete with actual images of the Pokemon visible for all to spectate. These stadiums can simulate various environments to spice up battles, or just generate a regulation stadium for the more tournament-savvy crowd. Now, people have begun set up actual gyms and hold actual Pokemon League tournaments, all thanks to the Virtual Pokemon that originated from that simple app, allowing players of any age to become Virtual-Trainers, or V-Trainers.
Okay, so the idea basically combines the concept of Pokemon Go with Gundam Build Fighters. It wouldn't take place in the Pokemon world, but rather the "real" world, where Pokemon was simply a series of video games and trading cards.
Fine, if that's the case then my vote goes to some AU or something. I like UC as much as the next guy but I have no interest in just repeating the same tired-old Zeon vs Federation story that's been told and retold a hundred times by this point. It was great in its day, but frankly, it's kind of boring now.
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The thing is, that kind of setup is anathema to ambiguity, which is the theme that separates Gundam from shows like Macross. The very idea is that you're sometimes going to end up liking the antagonists and thinking the protagonists are bores or douchebags is critical to the show. I think that by creating a third party and using them as a main faction, that treats both canon factions like equal evils, goes against one of the things that's been a theme of Gundam for forty years.
Implying that both factions aren't already equal evils? Yeah, I said it. Both the Federation and Zeon are equal parts asshole, so why should I be forced to choose one when I could just say fuck it and stick it to both of them?
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At this point, to be completely honest, I think we'd be cutting out all the reasons to play a UC-based Gundam game. And actually F91 was set around the Federation, just not including Zeon. The Federation was just really weak and borderline unrecognizable by the time of F91, and there wasn't much of a focus on the fact that the soldiers helping Seabook were from the Federation.
But I digress. The point is that cutting out the conflicts between Zeon (and its derivatives) removes pretty much all of the defiining aspects of everything up until the Late UC era. And the alteration of the timeline needed to make it fit really takes away any incentive to use the UC. If you're choosing to make a game that doesn't directly involve the setting's actual conflicts, then there really just isn't a point in using that setting.
It's several unnecessary leaps in logic to explain why there are no Gundams for the PCs yet, too; Gundams were not at all common. They were all very limited production, if not completely unique. There's no explanation needed for why we don't have any, because it's not a given that we would. We're just not in a situation where we would have any.
But given the sort of setting changes you guys would seem to want, it honestly seems like it would make more sense just to craft an AU whole cloth.
I never said we should cut out the conflict. I said we should play a party that has reasons for hating BOTH sides. The conflict would still be there (where do you think all those shipwrecks and stuff came from) we just wouldn't be actively e taking part in it. The idea is for the hypothetical party to potentially be on the run from both sides. Not every Gundam protagonist has to be some living legend like Amuro, you gotta have your occasional Bernies too.
@Crimmy Well... no, no it wasn't. Crossbone Vanguard were the villains after all. My point was that it focused on a group other than the Federation and Zeon.
Potential Solution: We don't side with either Zeon or the Feds.
This is just a hypothetical, but what if we took a page from Gundam F91's book and center the story around some ragtag third party? In F91 it was essentially space pirates in the form of the Crossbone Vanguard. Suppose we're playing as something similar? People whose homes (be it a colony or a place on Earth) was hit by war between Zeon and the Feds and were forced into doing whatever it takes to survive in a harsh world/space that's being torn apart by a war. The idea is that we're essentially scavengers. We try to salvage shipwrecks and especially mobile suit parts. We do it to both make money and arm ourselves so that we aren't defenseless. Naturally, neither the Federation nor Zeon take too kindly to people like this potentially learning the secrets of some of their machines and so we'd probably be treated like outlaws or pirates.
In my hypothetical scenario, we have a plausible reason for why no one would start out with a Gundam (because their parts are just that hard to come by for us) but also gives us the potential to acquire one or two of them as time goes on, assuming we survive long enough to reach that point.
Edit: I also think at least one person ought to play as a masked antagonist of some kind. It just wouldn't be Gundam without a Char clone. Hell, I'll gladly volunteer for that part myself.
This is just a hypothetical, but what if we took a page from Gundam F91's book and center the story around some ragtag third party? In F91 it was essentially space pirates in the form of the Crossbone Vanguard. Suppose we're playing as something similar? People whose homes (be it a colony or a place on Earth) was hit by war between Zeon and the Feds and were forced into doing whatever it takes to survive in a harsh world/space that's being torn apart by a war. The idea is that we're essentially scavengers. We try to salvage shipwrecks and especially mobile suit parts. We do it to both make money and arm ourselves so that we aren't defenseless. Naturally, neither the Federation nor Zeon take too kindly to people like this potentially learning the secrets of some of their machines and so we'd probably be treated like outlaws or pirates.
In my hypothetical scenario, we have a plausible reason for why no one would start out with a Gundam (because their parts are just that hard to come by for us) but also gives us the potential to acquire one or two of them as time goes on, assuming we survive long enough to reach that point.
Edit: I also think at least one person ought to play as a masked antagonist of some kind. It just wouldn't be Gundam without a Char clone. Hell, I'll gladly volunteer for that part myself.
@DisguisedDemon So you want characters with clashing personalities who might even go as far as to butt heads? Alright, but exactly where would you draw the line? Would you want characters potentially defecting to the other side over these differences or would you prefer them to be able to put that crap aside for the sake of the mission when the time comes?
@DisguisedDemon I would recommend watching a few series before tackling Build Fighters/Try. Those are fun series but you'll definitely appreciate them more if you can spot or understand a lot of the references they make.
@DisguisedDemonThat's... Not in Build Fighters
That one specifically isn't, but a character in Try builds something very, very similar.
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