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At least those other universes actually bother to put unique spins on the formula, which is what I was getting at. G Gundam ultimately tells a political war story by the end, but its done so in the very unique way of framing it around a martial arts tournament. And that's just one example.

By the way, is this RP still a thing, or no?
@The Kid Lantern Since amalgaming Ant-Man with The Atom is far too obvious, may I propose the idea of combining Ant-Man with Blue Beetle? It would work surprisingly well, the Scarab would simply come equipped with Ant-Man powers along with some of its usual weaponry. The working idea is for me to play as a version of Jaime Reyes that - like in the original universe - unwittingly became bonded with the Scarab. My plan is take a page from the New 52 and have Jaime unable to completely control the Scarab at first. However, he'll get help from an unexpected place: Dr. Hank Palmer, one of his college professors. Hank will also appear to know more about the Scarab than he lets on, eventually revealing that Jaime was not the first person the Scarab bonded to, the previous being a former student of Hank's (an amalgam of Scott Lang and Ted Kord) who is now deceased. Hank can also later reveal that he invented a belt that mimics the Scarab's power (as a way to tie in his Ray Palmer side) and that he used it to become The Atom, but at some point in the past vowed to never use it again for undisclosed reasons (hint: Haven't mentioned Janet yet, take a guess why).
So... just for clarification, does Ray Palmer + Hank Pym equal this guy?:


Joking aside, I wanna play a shrinking man for once. Been wanting to for a while and it looks like this will be my first opportunity.
Basically you only posted because you hoped I would cave and turn this into a Digimon RP? Sorry, that's not how this works. Wat you just described is literally every Digimon story ever told and, honestly, it's tired and overdone. I'm not interested in an RP that debates the existential philosophy of two worlds. I just want something fun and energetic. Maybe that's bland or boring to you, but I'm personally looking to play a game that's not as complex or stressful. Just something that's relaxing and nostalgic.
Pokemon and Digimon aren't even remotely the same. So I'll have to respectfully disagree.
The recent release of Pokemon Go has given me an idea.

Imagine a world where, 20 years after the Pokemon franchise was born, a new way to play was created? It started as Pokemon Go, an app that allowed one to use GPS to track their location and uncover virtual Pokemon outside in the world. A few years later, it has become a revolutionary way to train Pokemon. Now the digital Pokemon captured by players can be truly put to test in virtual Pokemon battles. Special stadiums can be found all over that allow players to load in their chosen team of digital Pokemon and battle against opponents in a holographic simulated field, complete with actual images of the Pokemon visible for all to spectate. These stadiums can simulate various environments to spice up battles, or just generate a regulation stadium for the more tournament-savvy crowd. Now, people have begun set up actual gyms and hold actual Pokemon League tournaments, all thanks to the Virtual Pokemon that originated from that simple app, allowing players of any age to become Virtual-Trainers, or V-Trainers.

Okay, so the idea basically combines the concept of Pokemon Go with Gundam Build Fighters. It wouldn't take place in the Pokemon world, but rather the "real" world, where Pokemon was simply a series of video games and trading cards.
Fine, if that's the case then my vote goes to some AU or something. I like UC as much as the next guy but I have no interest in just repeating the same tired-old Zeon vs Federation story that's been told and retold a hundred times by this point. It was great in its day, but frankly, it's kind of boring now.
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The thing is, that kind of setup is anathema to ambiguity, which is the theme that separates Gundam from shows like Macross. The very idea is that you're sometimes going to end up liking the antagonists and thinking the protagonists are bores or douchebags is critical to the show. I think that by creating a third party and using them as a main faction, that treats both canon factions like equal evils, goes against one of the things that's been a theme of Gundam for forty years.


Implying that both factions aren't already equal evils? Yeah, I said it. Both the Federation and Zeon are equal parts asshole, so why should I be forced to choose one when I could just say fuck it and stick it to both of them?
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At this point, to be completely honest, I think we'd be cutting out all the reasons to play a UC-based Gundam game. And actually F91 was set around the Federation, just not including Zeon. The Federation was just really weak and borderline unrecognizable by the time of F91, and there wasn't much of a focus on the fact that the soldiers helping Seabook were from the Federation.

But I digress. The point is that cutting out the conflicts between Zeon (and its derivatives) removes pretty much all of the defiining aspects of everything up until the Late UC era. And the alteration of the timeline needed to make it fit really takes away any incentive to use the UC. If you're choosing to make a game that doesn't directly involve the setting's actual conflicts, then there really just isn't a point in using that setting.

It's several unnecessary leaps in logic to explain why there are no Gundams for the PCs yet, too; Gundams were not at all common. They were all very limited production, if not completely unique. There's no explanation needed for why we don't have any, because it's not a given that we would. We're just not in a situation where we would have any.

But given the sort of setting changes you guys would seem to want, it honestly seems like it would make more sense just to craft an AU whole cloth.


I never said we should cut out the conflict. I said we should play a party that has reasons for hating BOTH sides. The conflict would still be there (where do you think all those shipwrecks and stuff came from) we just wouldn't be actively e taking part in it. The idea is for the hypothetical party to potentially be on the run from both sides. Not every Gundam protagonist has to be some living legend like Amuro, you gotta have your occasional Bernies too.
@Crimmy Well... no, no it wasn't. Crossbone Vanguard were the villains after all. My point was that it focused on a group other than the Federation and Zeon.
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