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You shouldnt have been able to cut through that, this is adamantium armor...


*Shrugs and sticks my tongue out at you*
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*it cuts through*

WHAT THE HELL?!?

*thanks it back, and it heals*


*Giggles to myself and hops back*
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*attempts to gently pull it back towards me*


*Shoves my sword in your palm and up your wrist*
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*holds you back with an arm*

Call the match. Only then would I let you hug me.


*Holds onto your arm*
@Bishop

I kind of see your point in the context of many universes, but outside of that, it falls apart a bit.
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*stands up straight, still baring the kunai in my left hand, and keeps an eye on you*


*Gives you a bear hug from behind*
@Host Both.
@DarkwolfX37 The universe, no matter which model you pick is deterministic.


Let's approach the first one then. Why must the fact that the past will eventually be set in stone affect whether or not the system is preordained?
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The link to a "spiritual state" is irrelevant. An open system by itself means that a reset could lead to a different path.


I don't disagree—I was only giving an example of how our world would be considered an open system in a religious context.
Without the influence of outside factors which aren't part of chemical reactions and don't follow physical laws, like supernatural things and without a higher civilization messing around with space/time and the universe in general then yeah, the universe is deterministic or predetermined as you might say.


Even with interference from the future, I would say that sans an infinite loop, it would still be predetermined. Pretty much, any closed system behaves the same way under the same conditions, correct?
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*doesn't move*


*Walks past you*
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