Letter Bee

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I agree that its unlikely, but hey, the aim is to have fun. Id say nerf it a little, make Japan be in the process of reforms rather than start 100% ready and induatrializing? Its far fetched but hey, its a roleplay.

@Wernher

I'm willing to listen to this, but to be honest, I also don't get why a far-fetched idea is needed to have fun in a Roleplay. I mean, your 'United States of Greater Austria' is at the very limit of what I was willing to accept (no offense meant), and even then I had reservations about how it had claims on many of its neighbors (including all of Italy). But back to the Japan idea:

I am not against an earlier modernization for Japan, nor an earlier overthrow of the Shogunate. But there are other interesting and plausible ways to accomplish those ends than a peasant revolt that manages to sweep through the nation with miraculous military success and foreign support without strings attached. For example, a sudden plague which takes out the Shogun and his top officers, or Emperor Komei dying and his son falling under the influence of the Southern Daimiyo/Lords early.

Or even Russia doing a Commodore Perry much earlier.

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So are you gonna even give advice on how to fix it or are you just gonna throw a bitchfit for someone trying to have fun

Bc if that's what I signed on for the i'm just gonna dip

@Richard Horthy

Edit: After some review, I was a bit too snippy and curt and I apologize for that, as well as being too impatient to provide advice. Nevertheless, I still stand by the belief that the entire alternate history of Japan, as posited in that nation sheet, is a bit too impossible and that any female peasant leader or peasant-led rebellion in Japan at that time would have been crushed brutally after some months, maybe a year if they're lucky.

Edit 2: And if one brings up Joan of Arc, she was propping up an existing regime, not overthrowing it, her message was useful for those in power, not anathema to them, and she found supporters among the elite early on.

Edit 3: And why would the European Powers help Japan's new regime without concessions? Commodore Perry's voyage to Japan was to get concessions. Like it or not, a new regime in Japan with dubious legitimacy (as even if true, the 'New Shogun's' claims still sound absurd) would be shaky and the West would profit more from trying to overthrow it than helping it become a power which would eventually rival them.

Add that to the fact that Emperor Komei (I did do some research on him) was very Anti-Foreigner and a traditionalist to boot, and he'd have given full support to the 'Old Shogunate' against Kimiko's rebellion. He may even have tried to take over and restore Imperial Authority earlier if the Old Shogunate appeared to be losing, and his overwhelming legitimacy would have gotten the people on his side, especially if he promised lower taxes to the peasants as well.

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Guess I shant be joining, then, y'all have fun now. Maybe I can reuse this for something else some day.

@Lady Lascivious

I understood, good day.

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Can you elaborate? Peasant rebellion in Japan leading to regime change? An early and voluntary opening of Japan? Women having rights? Alliance with Russia?

Or literally every single one?

@Lady Lascivious

Literally every single one.

Edit: And I'm in a bad mood right now, btw, so let's not debate this further.

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@Letter Bee
I do indeed have the permission of Russia's player for this, we discussed it in private before I'd even started the sheet.

What exactly do you wish changed

@Lady Lascivious

I feel like the entire backstory is implausible.

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@Lady Lascivious, Did you have the permission of Russia's player for this? I also don't think the history of your nation is plausible, sorry.

@Eldritch Puppy, Cool!

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Working on a sheet but, Richard already put a sheet up for Russia. I mentioned this to an acquaintance interested in playing France. It'd just be Britain, mainly.

And an NPC nation can also be shared, too. Rather than simply placing all that burden on the GM.

@Lady Lascivious

I see, all sounds good, yes. And thanks for reminding me about the Russia sheet.

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Why not just make them into NPCs until someone comes along who wants to play them

@Richard Horthy

I agree. I think were good for a balkan and middle east focused early game? Britains intentions can historically be seen as 'maintain balance and status quo' anyways.

@Wernher

We might be, but playing the Ottomans, Britain, France, and Russia as NPCs and having them interact with my own Egyptian Sultanate sounds like I'll be playing with myself a lot.

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Maybe a france and britain, but considering right now its russia austria and egypt, the position of the Ottomans might... intimidate would be players.

@Wernher

To be honest, yes. So France and Britain are needed at an absolute minimum.

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@Smike, Approval One has been given on Discord and also being given here.