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@Letter Bee
Hehe, I was wondering when that might come up
Fear not there's a small army of Filipinos in my discord contacts who would probably swim over and murder me if they caught wind of anything like that
That and I don't have the stomach for being anywhere near as logic defyingly evil as the otl Japanese Empire.
@Letter Bee
Entirely possible, but one could just as easily make an argument that having a strong ally in the east strengthens Russia's position significantly against the western European powers.
Which way would they go? Hard to say. That's what the IC is for, after all ^-^
Bad harvest is good with me if it is with you. It avoids the population crash issue of a plague. It provides context for the land reforms, as well as extra motivation for wanting to seize more land outside of Japan.
EDIT: An alternative proposal. A bad harvest leads to severe food shortages and unrest, instead of a plague.
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Again - I'm not arguing against it at all. I think it's unrealistic, and the British would oppose it as it would upset the balance of power in the region and destabilize things, as well as being greedy imperialistic little bastards. The conservative and traditionalist factions do not have the 20/20 vision of history with which to realize that would be by far the best deal they could get, and him ceding Crete and making other such concessions would, in my view, absolutely infuriate them, since such factions are rarely motivated by purely rational logic.
I assumed we were playing a setting that allowed more low probability stuff to occur - and "peasant rebellion lead by a military genius and supplied by Russia in exchange for one of their longest running strategic goals" didn't seem all that outlandish to me, to be honest.
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Not super keen on a drastic population reduction, though. It kind of ruins any plans I might have had for joining in some jolly good wars on the continent if everyone's dead.
And I had no opposition to the original divergence whatsoever. I'm, well, the kind of person who wrote up basically Nazbol Japan for fuck's sake. My point was simply that I thought my proposal was perfectly sound with what, to me, seemed a pretty damn unlikely scenario. Mine is, also, unlikely, yes. But I assumed that in a world where the British were willing to cede that much control to a non-European nation and the Austrians caving into super liberal ideas in the 1840s, it was perfectly reasonable.
I think that a compromise can be reached without throwing your nation concepts out the window.
@Letter Bee I could see Britain making a deal with Egypt, but you should make it clear that they got some pretty hefty guarantees from Muhammad Ali that the Suez canal will be under their control, not Egypt's. Maybe ceding the bit of territory that is the canal to the British directly.
@Lady Lascivious I would suggest that, as mentioned before, Japan was swept by a particularly virulent plague that left Japanese society prone to rebellion. With so many people dead, it could justify women getting a more prominent role in society in 19th century Japan.
Its Victorian era claims, like Russia claiming overlordship over all slavs because muh panslavism. If something can come out of said claims is another thing entirely.
Aaaanyways. What now? Does this apology means an agreement to loosen the rules or that you're sorry that this isnt what most had in mind? I'm still in. Who else is?