Lewascan2

Grimoiric Heart

Do Goldilocks. You can ride bears and fire projectile soup that's too hot or too cold.

@Lonewolf685

Oh dear... that... may have given me ideas...
As a side note, THIS started playing in my head a moment ago...

@Lewascan2
Why not a modern story? If I did a second, I'd try something really out of left field, like... I dunno, some modern fiction series. Something funny would be Eragon, for example. Assuming it's okay to do modern stuff, I didn't see a ban on it when I glanced over the opening post to double check if it was.

@The World

Hmmm... This is a fair question. Not really sure what kind of limits there are beyond the obvious?
You really have to look at how Fable, Legend, and Myth are defined for this RP, but this is a Fable, the absolute minimum:

"The Fable rank among Magical Girls encompasses those Grimoires who possesses stories that have become exactly that among mankind. Fables and fairy tales are those that have prevailed among human psyche, usually holding morals to learn and lessons to impart upon their retelling. Despite being the weakest rank in power and magic, do not be fooled. A Magical Girl with a Fable ranked Grimoire can still prevail as a champion of light against any Pageless."

I don't think modern book series really count. Everyone knows that's "just" a story. Fables and up, as far as I can tell, possess a certain... "mysticisim" to them, a spark of a hint of being based in reality or moral values that try to impart a lesson most often. Something like Eregon is "only" trying to tell an entertaining story from the get-go, and everyone knows it.

Although, given TheWendil's input, GM-fiat willing, they do appear to be valid within reason.

Grimoiric Heart

@Lewascan2

Gilgamesh is a bit too powerful for me to allow freely, given it's the first story in history.

@TheWendil

Fair enough. I can't even imagine how powerful the magical girl that has it must be (assuming there's currently one out there).

Grimoiric Heart

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Legend is probably the most accurate way to place Santa's tale. While it might be pretty well known, it isn't established enough, especially considering that Santa was we know is a weird composite character that only took its modern shape to fulfill consumerist ideals. in the last century or so when Christmas veered off from being about religion and just became that time of the year to spend money on presents "just because".

@KoL

Love to see some GM input, thank you. Legend it is.

Santa Claus is honestly such a weird one to define. By the requirements it has to meet, it's really weak in some areas while being absurdly strong in others.

I'm pretty settled on the secondary character being Russian, but the final decision of what Grimoire they will have still requires some thought. Currently, I've got:

Santa: Legend (The flying sleigh? attacks with coal? XD)

Red Riding Hood: Fable ("what big -blank- you have" power? the huntsman?)

Three Little Pigs: Fable (powerful breath weapon? "invincible" brick house?")

Goldilocks and the Three Bears: Fable (summons bears? I dunno)

Cinderella/Rodopis: Fable (I have no clue here; something with the shoe obviously)

The Epic of Gilgamesh: Myth? (SO many options)

The Pyramid Texts: Myth? (related mostly to death and manipulating stuff surrounding it. would be a ritual spellcaster?) (might not even count as a Grimoire, considering it's less of a story and more a spellbook)

Honestly, only reason I haven't looked more into the fables listed is that they are simply too short to draw much of a power-set out of without reaching a fair bit, even with the whole "Magical Girl" thing going for them.

Grimoiric Heart

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This is basically why Karen has a Legend level. The Lotus Sutra itself would be Myth, being basically a Buddhist bible, but since it manifested the way it did I knocked it down to Legend.

Santa is probably Legend level anyway; it's hard to imagine that he has the level of influence the myths we've seen have. I mean, if freakin' Journey to the West is only a Legend, I would find it hard to argue that santa is Myth. Especially since there's no real set story to santa as much as he's just a famous character.

@The World

Nice take, thank you. That's a helpful perspective.

The main thing with Myths as far as I can tell is that they need to be fundamental and have pretty much worldwide influence in some way, which was where my mind went with that. Santa basically somehow already has half the equation, which is a little mind boggling to think about, considering his tale only has about 200 years under its belt.

But yeah, in terms of an actual story and the longevity of his myth's existence, there's no way if could actually fully capitalize on that fame. It's the sort of story with shaky foundations that somehow managed to get absurd amounts of influence for what it was, which is where it the whole "Legend" bit comes in, since it's definitely not weak enough to be just a Fable.

The main issue, of course, is actually just finding the right piece of literature that has the most "base" influence on the existence that is Santa Claus.

Grimoiric Heart

You know what? I think my secondary character is going to be a Russian that has Santa Claus for a Grimoire. That sounds hilarious. Just need to find a good specific book maybe.

Hol' up, originally I thought it might only be Legendary, but considering the literal worldwide influence in the form of a holiday and massive economic influence as well, is... is Santa Claus actually a Mythic Grimoire? I think it just might be.
On second thought, in terms of global influence, it looks Mythic, but it's far too recent a fairy tale to look like anything more than a Fable. Which means that it sort of averages out as a Legend-type?
Pretty much too young to be Mythic yet, but that has a lot of potential to change long down the line.

Grimoiric Heart

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Since we're no longer accepting new players, I'm fine with secondary characters from our pool, but no more than that for now.

@TheWendil

Ninjaed by the GM, LMAO! Noice.

Grimoiric Heart

Mmm, I wouldn't feel too bad about misconstruing anything on Roma's sheet. Half the people I talked to thought she wanted to mind control people, while the other half thought she wanted to do the R-word to them. If the intent was to confuse people they did a pretty good job.

Also @TheWendil you still okay with people making secondary characters or nah?

@BrokenPromise

I gathered, lol! So much glorious speculation!

Honestly, I was halfway planning on making random magical girl NPC CSs to flesh out later scenes involving internal and possibly outward dialogue (especially at the school). I've been looking at a bunch of little fairy tales, like Red Riding Hood, the Three Little Pigs, Goldilocks and Cinderella (the original version of which is actually ridiculously old and set in egypt).

Grimoiric Heart

@Lonewolf685
Ah, now that I reread it, Roma's ability is less "personality/mind reading" and more desires/motivations specifically.

In that case, lol, I wrote too much again, and I'll just tuck some of that back away I think. The only thing you probably need is what motivates her, that being: saving people, personal freedom and a peaceful life, avoiding being corrupted by power, discovering what kind of life will make her truly happy, obtaining power(?) (she's pretty sure she wants it to help more people but worries that her intentions could be corrupted if she gets more than she already has), and finally, discovering if the Grand Ministry really is as good as they present themselves.
If I think of anything else, I can bring it up later, but those are the main things.

In terms of gold tokens, that's unfortunately not really any different? She just doesn't desire gold/trinkets/jewelry enough to have any reaction other than "oh, neat" or an uncomfortable "you sure you want to give that to me? It would help someone else far more." She's just too lacking in greed and too inversely possessing of generosity.

Grimoiric Heart

@Lonewolf685
Well, the mind shenanigans implications seemed to be there, so I felt that I should clarify just in case, since Roma seems to have "meta knowledge: the power". And I definitely gathered that she's vague on purpose. That will be half the fun I'm sure.

But in any case, I'm sure this'll be quite entertaining!

Grimoiric Heart

I'm pretty sure Roma's just hungry for other things. Whatever it is antagonist Magical Girls want.

@TheWendil

Long as it's not deserts, maybe she can find it at the Round Table. XD