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We're all the same base human with some cosmetic changes along the way.

@Dinh AaronMk

And that's why diversity matters, folks -- because we're all exactly identical (?)

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@Dynamo Frokane
Genetic and ingrained differences in IQ, anatomy, behaviour, etc. Basically, evolution on a human scale. Whenever someone expresses the slightest belief in it or even interest in researching it they get "called out" as racists.

@Andreyich

I mean to be fair, it sounds pretty racist.

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I hope that doesn't include me, I did "use" them but to show what others were saying, and it was censored. So hopefully wasn't seen otherwise.

@SleepingSilence

Like I said, I'm not judging people here, I'm simply saying for precaution's sake that keeping that word out of the thread is the very best way to keep the thread open. So..... I mean do with that information what you will.

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Crediting Trump - or any president really - with job creation may by very imprudent.

@Dinh AaronMk

Well don't take my word for it. I can pull up half a dozen more if you like, or we can chuckle about how just a few months ago y'all were celebrating Obama pulling us out of the recession for much paltrier gains.

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aight so that's like twice now in just a few hours.... can we back off the language there folks? Forum rules are pretty specific on racial slurs and I know you're not, like, USING them that way, but all the same. No judgments, just precautions.

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I get that the point of the system is to make it less democratic, partly because there was some merit to it. I just think its reasonable to question whether it becomes unreasonable to give a voter from Montana so much more impact than one from New York. Id rather see more lower case D democracy than less. It will be interesting to see what the demographics look like a hundred years from now will we have rotten borough style states? Because there is no way the system will change, why would the three people who live in Wyoming sign off on a constitutional amendment that would make their vote less important.

The whole Electoral College/popular vote thing is a bit of a red herring anyway. The real concern is that millions of Americans apparently thought that the current regime was a good idea.

@Penny

Upsides: DOW up 16%. NASDAQ up 19.5%. Drilling & energy sector way up. Regulations way down. 600,000+ new jobs added. Unemployment down to 4.3%. Business and economic enthusiasm way up- record levels.

Downsides: HE'S MEAN!!!!

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The 'Explain The Appeal Of......' Thread

@mdk "Eating for free" consoles and all their games cost a shiit ton more than the free ones you can torrent for pc. PC has better performance and is super cheap.

@Bishop

You could shoplift games for free on console too if that's what you mean. PC is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOT super cheap, at least when you're talking comparable performance -- for the price of my (already obsolete) video card I could put a PS4 in every room of my house, and still have leftover cash for doritos and mountain dew.

You have to fiddle with the display options every single time you open the game? It's only the first damn time and then you don't have to move and adjust them anymore.

Well firstly that's not what I said, but still, numerous games beg to differ -- the one I'll arbitrarily pick is Total War. A decent PC might be able to run the game fine on high settings for a while but by the late-game, I had to start fucking with things on a battle-by-battle basis. That will never happen on consoles. Of course, you don't get to play Total War on console, or any worthwhile RTS really, and that's a shame. My point was, in answer to the question, part of the appeal of a console is the plug-and-play simplicity.

That's your problem

No kiddin

And as far as balancing the launchers goes? You don't need to with torrented games.

Ease of theft is not a point I count in PC's favor, but you do you.

And if you can't remember the controls then that means that you don't really play or like the game enough to remember so why complain about it?

Don't honestly tell me you've never typed "wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww" into party chat. A keyboard has more buttons than a controller, is more complicated and less ergonomic. These are facts.

The same core controls you have on a console controller you have on your computer. You can ignore the extras and additions.

Well not really, because tilt-sensitive joysticks are great and so is rumble feedback and every great while there's a motion-control feature in a game that's pretty cool, and that's without getting into all the clever shit Nintendo has been doing for the last several generations. And you can't necessarily ignore the extras and additions -- you've got to program all of them out of the control menu first, and then god help you if you get to a spot where the game expects you to toggle on the flashlight manually and you've bound that to shift-control-F-something because it was right next to the jump button but now the game can't remember that you bound it there and it just keeps telling you to mash the key that stabs your companion to death with a rusty shovel and then overwrites your quicksave because fuck you that's why.

Well it all depends on what you like to play most. And seriously if you play RTS and FPS games on consoles..... I mean seriously. Even most of the console players on the top ladder use a mouse and keyboard that they have attached to their console. But in that sense, you can connect your pc to the tv, sit back on the couch and play with your Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.

Because god knows at the end of a long day at work the thing I want most is to balance a billboard on my crotch. I'm not a top-ladder player (well I was top 500 in Destiny for a minute....), I'm just having fun comfortably with some pals on a thing that works and isn't a headache. That, sir, is the appeal of a console.

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Explain the appeal of consoles over PC. Seriously, these plebs need to upgrade their shack!

@Bishop

PC gaming is very configurable because there are a lot (LOT) of buttons. This is obviously nice in a lot of situations (I can turn on the windshield wipers in Battlefield), but also kinda sucks, because it feels like every damn day I have to open the control menu to find out which button I push to do some random thing, and/or spend half an hour setting everything up differently. I also have to fiddle with the display options to optimize everything for my unique combination of components, keep up with driver updates, and balance ten different launchers (was that game on Steam or Origin or Ubisoft? Wait shit it's battle.net. I mean no, shit, it was this other thing....) Online gaming is way more hit-or-miss than it should be; ports are often clumsy, the ridiculously massive game library is obviously a big plus but let's be honest, the VERY GOOD games are also on console; modding adds a TON of enjoyment to games, but again I spend more time fucking with the mods than I spend actually playing the modded game, so in the end that's kind of a wash.

Now with a CONSOLE, I flop down on the couch, press the PS button, and I'm in. It's fucking simple in all the right ways -- okay yeah, I'm losing some FPS and my graphics could be sharper -- but I'm playing on the big screen, sprawled out on a recliner with my entertainment system's 7.1 surround. It's hard to care. Online support all runs through the same service, reliably (I can play three games with friends on PS in the same time it takes to launch one decent battlefield party out of the goddamn internet browser for some fucking reason on PC). Hackers get their systems deactivated because there's uniform hardware and everything's easy to spot.

TL:DR -- people who care deeply about performance, who get enjoyment out of maximum performance, yeah, play on PC -- I can appreciate that. I just care about gaming. PC is like cooking a meal and Console is like eating for free at a nice restaurant -- I don't have to work for it, and even though I don't get to fuck with the little details, it's still delicious.

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fuck it we'll just make it up as we go