Necroes

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1.) Psykers turn into impromptu daemon-portals on accident, and those are weak ones. It wouldn't be hard to do on purpose.

2.) Urgrugg is quite powerful, in terms of sheer volume of warp energy he can channel.

3.) He's an ork. If he has reason to think he's going to die, he's going to go out fighting, preferably on his own terms.

Add those things together, and what do you get? Someone with means to open a big hole into the warp, send a giant neon "Come Eat Here" sign into it, and reason to do so.

A new warp storm, it would not be. An open invitation for any daemons hanging around this section of the warp (the section with a giant space-battle happening around it, thus huge emotional turmoil) to come running for the chance to dig in? Oh yea.

@Sophrus It's not a threat to keep him around. I've already said, if JB wants him dead, just do it. That's just what happens when a Chaos Sorcerer is stuck behind enemy lines, with no allies around, and sees his impending doom coming. He goes out with a great, big BANG.

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@Sophrus Still nit-picking what you want to hear from my posts, I see.

Guess you missed the part where I said, "If they have reason to come for Urgrugg anyway, they'd already be doing it, and him summoning daemons would only act as a deterrent."

Oh, and don't forget, his death-throes! I've mentioned it several times now, but when Urgrugg dies, daemons Will happen. The main thing is, if he sees it coming, it's going to be a BIG daemon, maybe several. Hell, his final massive-burst of warp power will probably be to just rend a massive hole into the warp that will let daemons come piling out by the hundreds. And you know how daemons are with the whole mass-slaughter thing.

So, yea... how's letting the ork die looking for you now, there, Black Beard?

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@Jbcool Yes, no reason;
The eldar don't like chaos, sure. They Never actively seek out combat with them, unless 100% necessary. Even then, they prefer sending other factions to fight them. In fact, Eldar hardly ever engage in combat, period. They don't want to risk their own, far more valuable, lives on anything they don't have to. The spirit stones being on that ship is, already, a heavy-handed excuse for them being here to begin with.

Speaking of the ship... if that's the reason they're coming, then they would have already. If they're actively looking for Urgrugg, he's not going to stay hidden from them. Eldar psykers are far too good at what they do for Urgrugg's passive defenses to keep him hidden from them. If they actually know he was on the ship, and are looking for him because of it, then they'd be on their way already. If anything, him summoning daemons would be a deterrent, because they wouldn't be quick enough to stop him, and additional forces means additional resistance.

So, yes, no reason. They want the ship, not him. They don't like chaos, but they care far more about the lives of their own then sending a scant dozen or so daemons back to the warp. If they're coming after him because of the ship, they're already on their way anyway, and would probably just grab it off the hull and leave instead of engaging, and would be More likely to do so if daemons are being summoned.

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I wanna see jb bring some consequences.

@Wraithblade6

That's literally all it would be. Deus es GM. There's no reason for the eldar to care about the ork at this point. He's done nothing to them, and someone summoning daemons onto an enemy ship would be, at worst, helpful.

The eldar have no reason to care about Urgrugg, or anything he does, psychic or otherwise. It's the Imperium who have him on their radar, and even then, a very small portion of a specific sub-faction. It'd be far more likely he'd just summon the attention of the crew at large, and put the entire ship on alert.

Besides, in either case, both events would have massive consequences for the Entire group. Unless, again, Deus ex GM just decides there isn't. But, at that point, might as well have the section of the ship Urgrugg is on get hit my a void missile. It'd be the same level of "because the GM said so."

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Urgrugg doesn't have Tzeentch's blessing. He's not a chosen of Tzeentch, nor does he bare the Mark of Tzeentch. However, he uses magic, so he falls under Tzeentch's domain of influence. Beyond that, their only connection is one of Tzeentch's minions has a contract with him. That, in and of itself, doesn't constitute any pact between Urgrugg and Tzeentch.

For comparison, Urgrugg's relationship with Tzeentch would be akin to an ogryn's relationship with the Emperor. He's aware of the existence of this deity-esque entity, and worships him as such. However, his understanding of what said deity is, and what said deity Actually is, are skewed to say the least. Beyond that, he works with one of the deity's lowest-ranking voices of authority. For the ogryn it would be a sergeant, and for Urgrugg it's an exalted pink horror. Beyond that, the metaphor starts to break down, but there it is.

Are We the Bad Guys? - A WH40k RP [Mature]

Well, Urgrugg Can summon Nurgle daemons. He just doesn't have any standing contracts with any, so it's generally a bad idea. For a wide variety of reasons.

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Good, we're in agreement.

Now, which daemons would be the most helpful here? Hmm...

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What, exactly, did Xeph do that would make following him seem like a good idea? Let's go over that interaction again;

Xeph: I'm going to go nark on ork and misc.!
Ork: *Tries to kill Xeph*
Xeph: *Doesn't kill vulnerable ork* Life debt nonsense! I'll kill you for self-defense! Still going to nark!

... Yep, nope, doesn't really make following the tech marine (towards the enemy) seem like a good idea. Especially when compared to being left to his own devices so he can summon up some actual allies.

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Hmm... so, Urgrugg has been left alone, surrounded by nothing but corpses he made, and without so much as a single ally.

Sounds like daemon time!

Are We the Bad Guys? - A WH40k RP [Mature]

If he wanted to kill us, he'd just have the ship get hit by a stray missile.