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@Klomster Kind of makes you wonder; are there entire planets dedicated to the creation and distribution of ink cartridges, or is it just easier to mine aluminum or the like and engrave the instructions onto that?

Personally, I just want to know what poor, unfortunate agri-world is dedicated to growing nothing but paper trees so the rest of the Imperium has toilet paper.
@Jbcool Well, it's more complicated than that. The majority of loyalist legions see themselves as the protectors of humanity. They don't really judge humans as lesser beings, so much as they set themselves apart from them. Sure, there are some Astartes legions that could give two fucks less about humans, but that's more about the decisions of the chapter masters and the captains than the actual marines.

Remember, every space marine started life as a human. They've just ascended to the level of super-human. After that, they tend start thinking of humans the way Spider-man, or even Superman do. Separate, less powerful, and needing protection... but still living, sentient beings, worthy of both that protection, and of respect.

Especially for guardsmen. Practically any Marine recognizes that any given guard soldier is a hell of a lot braver than they are. Space Marines go into combat wrapped in power armor, wielding at minimum a chain sword and a literal hand-cannon, and with so many ogmentations that it takes absolutely ridiculous levels of firepower to actually kill them.
But Astra Militarum foot soldiers? They get a lasgun and flack armor, and they're expected to take on everything from hyper-evolved super aliens, to literal fucking daemons from hell. And those are just the ones that get training. Conscripts get issued a pamphlet on how to point their flashlights, and a complimentary wheel barrel to drag around their giant fucking testicles. And they're lucky if the Munitorum printed off enough pamphlets!
@BCTheEntity No worries. Lucius is acting every bit the way someone would expect an old-school Astartes to act. Especially a dark angel. In fairness, I was being kind of an ass with my response. I apologize for that.

All that said, best we look past it and continue on, I think. We've got our current goal ahead of us, and once we've reached it, the true fun of this RP can finally come into effect.
@Jbcool It's not really been discussed if there's an opposite end to the cat walk, connected to the far wall or not. If there was, though, there would be a good deal of space between Vespin and said wall, as he originally took up his current position to blanket-fire the door Oskar came in.

So, yes, he could potentially get behind Vespin. However, he wouldn't be able to do it quietly, by any means. Though, there's really not a great deal of need for it. If Decius has been listening in, he'd know that Vespin is quite literally offering them exactly what they're after; A path straight to the leader of the ship, a plan to take control of the command deck, a way to control the rest of the ship once they have the deck, and even a place to go and get a new ship when they abandon the one they're on.

That's exactly what he Just got done saying. That, and he's mentioned the traitor legions. Decius might be in a position to have issue with that, especially when Vespin just said 'You (the space marines) could all be Alpha Legion spies.'
How is he being anything but completely reasonable? A bunch of random space marines show up out of nowhere, release a group of prisoners, and all during the middle of a space combat without anyone on board being notified. Then, when the ratling offers up a plan to give them Exactly what they want, one of them starts mouthing off because... what, he isn't the one in charge?

Oh no!!! A space marine isn't going to be the center of attention! However could this possibly be?!

And, yes, he's rude about it. He's a ratling, a guardsmen foot soldier, and a veteran. Anyone who's been around any of the three would know that they aren't 'nice.'

@Jbcool If Decius shows up from where the prison scene occurs, he'd be on the lower floor, near Oskar and Vespin's entire squad of ratlings. Everyone else is on a catwalk, a full floor above them, and on the opposite side of the room, save Vespin who is in the middle. Also of note, the room is large, and Vespin has an auto-cannon trained on the other two space marines.
@Jbcool It should be noted; Vespin has put forward a plan that will take them to the bridge, take command of it, and then commandeer the ship. Really, all that's left is for the space marines to bite the bullet and agree to it.
@Klomster Guard military vehicles get transported by Naval vessels all the time. It's literally the only way guard vehicles get transported across the Imperium. They have no other means of doing it, and war machines most certainly aren't made on a vast majority of the worlds they get deployed on. The Guard don't have their own means of transport, keeping with the standard separation of powers among the Imperial higher ups. As such, the Navy alone is called on to haul them around. Literal trillions of troops, billions of vehicles, tanks, etc... it all gets transported by the Navy.

And, as for what the guard know of enemy factions... Like I said, they may not know a great deal about things they haven't fought, but they are aware of them. If for no other reason than the fact that worlds like Krieg and Catachan, death worlds whose soul purpose is to birth and supply troops, have to be schooled to engage all types of enemies, because once they're done being trained they could potentially be stationed anywhere in the Imperium, as needed.

Yes, you are right about the majority of Imperial citizens not knowing about chaos... mostly because the Imperium is massive on an unimaginable scale. However, once in the guard, what the average citizen knows about the universe at large suddenly becomes vastly more informed compared to what they were before hand.
@BCTheEntity Well, sure, different regiments would be more and less familiar with different enemy factions, based off who they usually fight. Armagedon regiments would be more familiar with Ork, Cadians with Chaos, and Catachan with all manner of random, xeno species.

However, they're all still educated on the vast enemies of the Imperium. You don't hide that kind of information from your troops, especially when so many of your enemies can just appear at random. Sure, a lot of guard probably haven't Seen Eldar, Necrons, Orks, Daemons, or even Traitor legion... but they'll have been made aware of their existence, because each and every one of those factions could appear out of nowhere, at any time, and the Guard need to know how to engage them if and when they do.

@Klomster I'm not as familiar with the various kinds of ships in the Imperial Navy. I was just speaking from a logistics stand point. It would stand to reason that a ship that can hold over 10,000 people, while still functioning as a ship, could hold a few tanks. However, as has been pointed out, we have no idea what's happening with the ship, where it's going, why guard are on it, etc.

Though, it has been stated, the ship wasn't actually meant to be in this space combat. It was doing something else, and got called in to give aid... somehow, for some reason...
@BCTheEntity What are you talking about? Vespin was trained on Cadia. They literally fight chaos daemons on a daily basis there. He knows what chaos is, he's seen and fought chaos cultist, and he knows who the traitor legion are. The Imperium might like to put up the charade that it's in control, but knowledge of their enemies is well and widely known throughout the majority of Guard forces. After all, denying the existence of the Alpha Legion is what brought on the the Night of a Thousand Rebellions.

They may not hand out pamphlets discussing the fine details of their enemies, but Astra Militarum soldiers know how to spot a cultist. Besides, it was more of an insult than actual accusation. Xeph's recent 'additions' have got Vespin thinking of chaos.
@Klomster Well, as I said; a Cadian armored company, which the group of guard on this ship would have to be, as Vespin is a Cadian officer, would have at least a half-dozen leman russes. They wouldn't use an entire ship to transport anything less than a company, as anything less wouldn't be worth making the trip. If the ship was alongside a larger retinue of ships, as part of a larger group, then I'd be inclined to agree with you. However, it's not.

As for why the tanks would be in there; The guard company itself would need somewhere to keep Its weaponry. No point in having guardsmen packing lascannons and heavy bolters to their living quarters, after all. So, the logical place to store the weaponry of the entire Cadian armored company would be in the ship's armory, as that's exactly the kind of things its made to hold.

And the tanks would be in there for the reason I described in my original post of the room; so that the heavy weapons platforms being stored in the room could be lowered down into the vehicles waiting below.

However, I could very well be wrong. JB has provided next to no detail about the group of guardsmen (note, guardsmen, not Imperial Navy troops) that are being transported on this solo ship. We don't know why they're being transported, or where they're going. However, I'd assume any group of guard requiring an entire ship as transport, as well as having an attached penal legion, would be carrying enough weaponry and artillery to outfit the entire company, at least to the point of making worth the effort of moving around the man power. After all, not a lot of sense in hauling a bunch of soldiers to a battle field, if you don't bring their guns, armor, vehicles, etc. with them.
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