POOHEAD189

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I was just not going to reply because none of that convinced me and I feel y'all are missing my points, but I'll reply one more time because I'd rather not be rude. But after this I'll probably wait for another subject.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity Your links didn't disprove politifact's legitimacy or accuracy, and California decided not to adhere to Trump because his claims were childish and baseless.

@mdkI never said he talked about himself. I never said anything about Obama.

I really don't understand why whenever I give a statement about Trump, people here either misread what I said, or they attack liberal/democratic candidates, when as I have repeated many times, I am neither a liberal or a democrat.

What has been reported, and what I did say, was that in briefings, Trump needs small, one page briefings to understand what is happening, and he pays more attention the more his name is mentioned.

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Also I'd like to point out that I don't see why him potentially having a learning disability is such an insulting thing. I have that. Growing up it was hard to pay attention to anything that I wasn't previously interested in.

For example it's only been recently that I've been interested in stuff like Quantum Mechanics which has led me to not be entirely ignorant in such a field, but for the life of me I had to repeat my Physical Science class at grade 10 in grade 11 because I couldn't care less so I didn't pay attention. And it wasn't because I chose not to pay attention. The info they gave me just slipped out of my head. But then again that was also partly due to the way they taught me and the way the education system works, something we really need to overhaul.

Lots of people have those problems, and a lot of the time these problems go undiagnosed in older people. So I'd actually say it's very likely he has some undiagnosed ADD perhaps.

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Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I never said that single source was wrong. But 3 million votes is.

Though now that you mention it, I went to look and see if Judicialwatch was a good source, and I found politifacts info on voter fraud allegations, and another article on judicialwatch's claims.

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Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

The fraudulent voting claim has never had a good source from what I have seen, and has been very baseless. Trump was simply a sore winner, as odd as that sounds. At least with the numbers he was claiming.

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Or perhaps because when the source of those complaints is looked at in context it won't match your catastrophic interpretation?

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I did a bit of googling and find the story interesting but I'm having trouble finding confirmation it was an Israeli agent and not a Jordanian agent. I'm also having trouble finding what the source that confirms Trump burned any agent at all; a quick google search shows that Trump denied ever mentioning the world Israel.

I remember the story of course. It's just that these details are important and for whatever reason seem difficult to substantiate.

But for the sake of argument let's say it is all true. Let us say that Trump fucked up bad. If that's the case does that prove that he is unintelligent? Obviously not; history is plentiful with brilliant leaders who screwed up bigtime. But I don't see you arguing that 90% of the historical leadership of western civilization was actually stupid. It feels like a double standard; anything Trump does that could be interpreted as foolish is given maximum weight while the foibles and foolish decisions of other leaders are interpreted with a much more objective eye.

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So because he requires reports to be condensed to a certain length he isn't paying attention and because he isn't paying attention he isn't intelligent? You see to be saying he is dumb but arguing that he is lazy. But those claims don't mesh with the reality of the situation. Trump prevailed over John Kasich, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Jeb Bush, Jim Gilmore, Chris Christie, Carly Fiorina, Rick Santorum, Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee, George Pataki, Lindsey Graham, Bobby Jindal, Scott Walker, Rick Perry and Hillary Clinton. Several of those names are powerhouses in the world of politics and Trump beat them all. If he is stupid, how did he manage that? And if he is lazy, as you perhaps inadvertently argue, why did he hold so many campaign rallies?
List of said rallies:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rallies…

@Kratesis

1. It was Isreali.

2. Yes, when other presidents can understand basic politics and info briefings and Trump cannot care or understand enough without big pictures and his name being mentioned often means he's less intelligent (perhaps with a learning disability) and more arrogant than other presidents.

3.Beating these people does not equal intelligence, and I don't know how you can make that connection.

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Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Since everything I have said has been publicly reported and common knowledge unless you listen to nothing but conservative daily news, and I already stated I knew this previously without needing to look up something specifically for this discussion, I'll at least give you the info for this.

I heard about that but I didn't get a lot of details. What information was given to Russia, specifically? Who specifically was put into danger?

Because I believe it is very pertinent to know the details of it.

It was an agent of the Isreali intelligence service who was working with the CIA to infiltrate ISIS. Donald Trump was bragging to Sergey Kislyak about the quality of intel he gets. It made public (to the Russians and the press) the information of the man's identity and/or workings. The CIA had to immediately call the Israelis to get that man out of there because he could very well have been exposed while within the inner workings of ISIS.

Not only did this take them back in infiltration and put the man's life in danger, but it changes how the government now operates because usually the president is trusted with info like this.

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Requiring your subordinates to be economical with your time is a good thing, not a bad one.

It was about him paying attention, not being economic with his time. If he goes to Maralago for policy making and half his presidency is vacation, he's not pressed for time.

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