Ruby

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oof. That doesn't sound good. Are you and the staff ready if Mahz decides to retire? Can you guys really do anything on this site (besides making PWs)? Or will you just make a new one?

@Mao Mao

There are contingencies in place for that...but ultimately up to him

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I agree. Which is why I didn't say that the staff didn't solicit any opinions regarding setting up the last PW. I was in the Discord until the Old Republic setting was decided on, and then I quietly bowed out when I realized it wasn't going in a direction I was personally interested in. I'm not getting it twisted and saying that the staff didn't ask for any advice or player feedback.

I'm only referring to this thread that was just deleted, which I wasn't posting in but was following semi-closely. I thought it was an interesting post-mortem, and a lot of people had some good ideas about what they might like to see in the future. I just feel like players should be able to still have those kinds of discussions, even while staff are having their own discussions parallel to ours. There's no harm in us talking.

I'm not trying to fight you on this, and I'm not accusing you guys of being tone-deaf the last go around. I just think players should be able to speak out about what might personally move the needle one side or the other for them, because in the end, they're a big part of what will make it thrive.

@Plank Sinatra

A post mortem is a fine idea.

Could we wait until we know it's dead is all I'm saying?

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I know a lot of people want to talk about the way Ruby's behavior as Co-Admin, but I want to ask something about the state of the site. It has been seven months since Mahz lasted posted about updating the site. I am worried that the site will just break one day or become outdated and nobody will be able to fix/upgrade it. So my question is: Have the staff been in contact with Mahz? And if so, does he care about this site anymore?

@Mao Mao

Me personally over a week.

I can't answer what is or is not in his heart.

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I can't argue with us getting an answer in the status bar. I won't even contest whatever reasons there were for deleting it instead of just locking the thread, since it's been made clear that the mods never intended on it staying up for very long anyway. But imo that strikes at the heart of the problem, which is how a PW is supposed to thrive when the site's users don't even get a place to assess what might have turned them off and what they'd prefer to see in the future. If they can't do that in a thread in the PW forum, where are they supposed to turn?

I know I for one was interested in the last PW, but like Lmpkio said, I was one of the people who was just kind of turned off by the setting. I'm all for the idea of having a PW on the guild - hell, even a Star Wars one, although it still wouldn't be my setting of choice - but it seems like the people who might be more likely to flock to the next one still aren't really getting a fair chance at discussion regarding the next one. If the PW mod team has to have their own discussions first, then that's fine - and it's been made apparent a number of times. But that also puts any average roleplayer's feedback on the backburner until we see what's already been presented, kind of like a beta test that comes out a week and a half before a video game's launch, and leaves them with few avenues to discuss anything but their own statuses.

At least some timetable on when we can be involved in those discussions would be appreciated by a lot of people, and would probably go a long way towards fixing some of these complaints.

@Plank Sinatra

As I said in that thread before we did the PW we held a lot of "give us your opinion!" threads and Discord session. It's super inaccurate to say staff didn't want opinions or listen to them.

But let us decide if the current one will continue in any way or not. If it doesn't and there's to be another PW we will start soliciting the opinions on PWs again.

Just as we did last time.

Ask an Admin, v2.

I understand frustrations, I've had my own with @Ruby but still, love her.

But perhaps some of these more personal issues should be directed in a PM, screenshot if you want and leave this thread for people bringing up different points rather than the same argumentative points.

@Sep

Oh you can DEFINITELY tell the people here acting on good faith and those acting in bad faith.

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Literally all I've ever done was shitpost in the status bar. I have not gotten into trouble with a single mod before this point, and I have only gotten into trouble now because I think you are being unjust and unfair to a lot of the userbase. I have not made any attempt at directly harassing you and this is my first alt because I literally could not post on my main account when my opinion on the matter is incredibly poignant.

I have had amicable conversations with both Nutts and Poo about moderation. I think those two do their job in a reasonable and level-headed manner. I do not know enough about Legend, Hank or Stark to make a judgement call on those.

I have, however, seen you moderate. And I do not like it.

I am not trying to "harass" you in any way; I am saying you are unfit for a moderating position. You are too much of an emotional person, and the only reason you started this is because people have given significant pushback on the grounds of not only mine, but Moss' ban as well.

I am also the first person to stick up for Odin as I was the only one who noticed at the time. I think he does deserve a ban, because he has gone out of his way to spam the site with alts and absolutely destroy the bridges with the moderation team, but not permanent, and not for the reasons you banned him. He should be allowed to return to the site, and further, you should have no say in any moderation practices regarding him since it is clear you cannot put aside your bias and moderate him in a reasonable manner.

@Skullwombat

Cool. Nice version of reality.

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So you never spoken to them before, but they were banned? So you banned them without warning them first so they have a chance to cease their actions? Even teachers in kindergarten give warnings.

@somnolence

They got a warning.

I meant speak personally.

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Productive List of Things I Would Like to Be Implemented:

• Members of the guild should be able to start an anonymous vote to de-moderator a moderator that they think is unfair (about half of the people that participate in the vote)
• Moderators are required to give a three verbal warnings before sniping someone
• We are allowed to question bans publicly, as PMing moderators accomplishes next to nothing
• If the thread isn't a spam thread, then moderators can't delete it unless they have received enough complaints to warrant it

if anyone else has suggestions on how to improve RPG's broken moderating system, i will gladly add it to my list

@somnolence

Considering how much of an issue correctly using statuses seem to be to some users, can we just remove them from the front page so that you only see them under a user's profile pic.

This might encourage them to be posts of how people actually are, rather than an RPG twitter for complaints.

@Aqua Regis

It's been discussed but the same group would just start going after RP threads. The status bar is just their favorite stage.

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Full transparancy: This is Ammokkx. I got banned on my main account for making a status, but I feel like my opinion in all this is relevant because I kicked this off.

I'm going to be frank: I don't like the way Ruby has been moderating these past two weeks. She has banned Odin permanently and Moss for a month, both times for personal reasons despite claiming it's for reasons like "Scaring newcomers" and "Impersonating staff."

The truth of the matter is that neither of these users did anything wrong at the time of their ban and were only targeted because Ruby was particularly irate at that moment. Further, any attempt at disputing this with the current staff will have them vehemently defend her at all costs, including our one other co-Admin.

I fundamnetally disagree with the removal or lock of the discussion thread, because even if it was premature, it fulfilled the purpose of the RP discussion board. The topic was about asking what people want to see in a PW after a perceived shut down, and new points were brought up that hadn't been in previous, similar threads. I, too, made a post in it.

However, my issues with Ruby go far beyond these recent incidents. Most locked discussion threads are directly her doing. She's been the consistent, driving force in stifling the community by making us unable to truly speak our minds. Yes, old threads could get a little toxic, but we tried our best not to let them be. I defended the mods once in past because I thought they were not doing a bad job, but recent events have caused me to think otherwise.

I do not think Ruby is fit to be a mod, much less a co-admin. She is much too emotionally driven, and while bias is always inevitable, she is ruled by it.

I'll be screenshotting this post and passing it around in case it gets deleted, yeet.

@Skullwombat

This entire post is crap. I've never spoken to you before so I'm guessing the people banned were your friends and you're angry about it. Great reason to harass someone you've never spoken to.