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Just tidying this up bit.
Helps when I'm not trying to argue quite as desperately as you are at the moment. ^-^'
So, are you trying to turn this into a personal argument? Like, what does, "I got called this" have to do with what was replied to? It seems to imply I'm the one that said it. Same with the former statement. (While most of your complaints boil down to how if I don't play, I can't say "Yeah, that's texture pop-in alright.") But no, you're wrong. I am saying, what my roommate is saying, and only confirming what I saw with my eyes. You can't make a "you aren't playing it argument", for more reasons than one, almost like my roommate got it for me or something. But ignoring that, your argument (which at this point I'm not sure what it is anymore.) is purely dismissive and erroneous.
Originally, first reviews were all 90's. But one thing I would've stated in the original post, was how literally all pokemon games are. And even fans would admit they vary in quality. Popular Nintendo IP ratings are rather kind pretty much all the time, to say the least.
And yeah...game critics are more frequent proof that they *don't* have informed opinions on games.
That last part is contradicting later statements about you permitting people to have opinions or reservations about a game. But no, Bloodborne and RD2, didn't have the same problems this game does. But this is steering farther off topic.
Yes. I feel like explaining why would be wasted time. Not that having trusted people giving you their takes is bad anyway...I mean you're literally defending the critics...
Sure.
I guess would you prefer people pirate the media? Suppose that's neither here nor there. But why can't you criticize something and buy/try it anyway? That really seems to be the contention here. I'm questioning if you're only stance, is "that's fine, but the volume and scope of it is bad though." And then I ask, well it's Nintendo's most lucrative franchise, what would you expect exactly?
There's quite a bit more than that. But again, off topic.
Because criticism is occasionally negative sounding, and you can't have that ruining the fun, can we?
If can TDLR this: This whole thing is "You can't talk about a thing, if you didn't see/play it. Insert insults and rage here."
I have played the game...so now you're okay with the criticism that my roommate gave it right?
Well, the last conversation I had this in, was about that shitty Ghost In The Shell remake, I watched it. Time passed by and now it's mostly agreed upon that...it sucks.
I guess time will tell with this game as well. Yeah, the game doesn't appear as polished or content-rich as the previous titles and I could put $5 that the release date was forced to be out before Christmas. I don't know, but no one will for months at least, as most companies avoid giving out that information in the first place. (The pre-order stuff that ends around then feels like it backs that assumption up. Again, I digress.)
I wasn't calling or saying anything about you, or what you have to say about the game. And *my roommates* opinion and observations are so mild as is. That the over the top reaction seems to highlight that you (if this isn't just been all for my sake.) can't accept the lightest issues brought up about games you personally enjoy. But that isn't my judgement to make.
Yes and? Thank you for agreeing with me, I guess?
Helps when I'm not trying to argue quite as desperately as you are at the moment. ^-^'
Your room mate isn't here giving his opinion. You are. And I got called a shill because I said "I'm having fun with it, it's not my favorite but camping is cute" so you know, takes all kinds. Says the king of parade shitting.
So, are you trying to turn this into a personal argument? Like, what does, "I got called this" have to do with what was replied to? It seems to imply I'm the one that said it. Same with the former statement. (While most of your complaints boil down to how if I don't play, I can't say "Yeah, that's texture pop-in alright.") But no, you're wrong. I am saying, what my roommate is saying, and only confirming what I saw with my eyes. You can't make a "you aren't playing it argument", for more reasons than one, almost like my roommate got it for me or something. But ignoring that, your argument (which at this point I'm not sure what it is anymore.) is purely dismissive and erroneous.
It's got an 81 on Metacritic. 'Near perfect' scores is more like 'It's good because Pokemon is a baseline of good'. Guess what? Critics are people too, and chances are they at least have an informed opinion on something well before anyone else does.
Originally, first reviews were all 90's. But one thing I would've stated in the original post, was how literally all pokemon games are. And even fans would admit they vary in quality. Popular Nintendo IP ratings are rather kind pretty much all the time, to say the least.
And yeah...game critics are more frequent proof that they *don't* have informed opinions on games.
Games that aren't rushed often do have those problems. Case in point, Bloodborne, or Red Dead Redemption 2, or a handful of others I could easily mention. What evidence do you have that the game was 'rushed' other than the fact that they announced the game being in development PRIOR to Let's Go even being out and then a year after Let's Go it comes out in the Nintendo Holiday Slot. It's easy to say something is rushed when you don't have anything other than belief.
That last part is contradicting later statements about you permitting people to have opinions or reservations about a game. But no, Bloodborne and RD2, didn't have the same problems this game does. But this is steering farther off topic.
I'd be wrong for...defending a game without comparing it to older games? Uh, no I wouldn't. Am I wrong in saying you're getting your information second hand? Because you're literally saying that. Unless your room mate is imaginary.
Yes. I feel like explaining why would be wasted time. Not that having trusted people giving you their takes is bad anyway...I mean you're literally defending the critics...
I am saying that review bombing something with criticisms that aren't helpful.
Sure.
Especially when those same people buy the fucking game anyway.
I guess would you prefer people pirate the media? Suppose that's neither here nor there. But why can't you criticize something and buy/try it anyway? That really seems to be the contention here. I'm questioning if you're only stance, is "that's fine, but the volume and scope of it is bad though." And then I ask, well it's Nintendo's most lucrative franchise, what would you expect exactly?
I wouldn't. The only time in recent memory where there was any justification was Battlefront 2 and guess the fuck what, before the game came out they did away with the loot box business.
There's quite a bit more than that. But again, off topic.
There's a difference between criticism and analysis.
Because criticism is occasionally negative sounding, and you can't have that ruining the fun, can we?
If can TDLR this: This whole thing is "You can't talk about a thing, if you didn't see/play it. Insert insults and rage here."
I have played the game...so now you're okay with the criticism that my roommate gave it right?
Well, the last conversation I had this in, was about that shitty Ghost In The Shell remake, I watched it. Time passed by and now it's mostly agreed upon that...it sucks.
I guess time will tell with this game as well. Yeah, the game doesn't appear as polished or content-rich as the previous titles and I could put $5 that the release date was forced to be out before Christmas. I don't know, but no one will for months at least, as most companies avoid giving out that information in the first place. (The pre-order stuff that ends around then feels like it backs that assumption up. Again, I digress.)
I wasn't calling or saying anything about you, or what you have to say about the game. And *my roommates* opinion and observations are so mild as is. That the over the top reaction seems to highlight that you (if this isn't just been all for my sake.) can't accept the lightest issues brought up about games you personally enjoy. But that isn't my judgement to make.
