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Can I add in the fact that the human/hybrid transformation is the most powerful zoan transformation. And being a mythical zoan user, whatever animal it may be, wouldn't the full transformation be the most powerful form? If this isn't the case I could simply transform into a dragon and slaughter most people in Lougetown.


As I see it for my character, his full transformation is the greatest form he could take. While partial transformation is weakest next to the other two forms. AS with Marco, becoming a Pheonix was his greatest form really as it healed him no matter what.
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It's not as simple as that, they can always detect and determine where their members are, as many Instances both in Skyrim and Oblivion have determined.
Their pact with Sithis and the night mother is eternal up until expiration of life, and Sithis, as well as the spectre of him would likely not wane, he is not like the Dawdric princes where the strength of the DB matches his own, he simply is, as well as this he doesn't prevent the dissolution of the DB, even though the Skyrim faction is remaining strong, irregardless of Ciceros plans; if the listener ever arises that is.
Sithis will still punish his own when they disobey, and whilst there is no evidence to suggest that the wraith if Sithis is aligned to him, even though it's name should suggest that it is, there is no proof to disprove that fact either.

In the end, I recommend that the Bio be modified to a more agreeable basis, one can be an assassian that is unaligned to the DB and still be as equally efficient, the Morang Tong are a perfect example, although, I do believe that one must be a Dunmer to be apart of that, I'm unsure of the specifics.


Well they find their members cause they are good at that. I doubt it's magical in nature like they just instantly know. I doubt it.

Yet there is no real proof of Sithis intervening as he hasn't actually shown himself or truly spoken. Everyone speaks for him like many worshippers speak for God in our own reality. I've researched extensively and never found a hint that Sithis, himself, keeps the DB going. Its more so that his followers and the Night Mother that does. And it is called the Wrath of Sithis but lacks evidence that he himself drops that wrath upon his followers. As with Astrid, who went against the Night Mother, she was done in and remarked she screwed up and preformed the ritual upon herself which can be considered the Wrath taking affect even though Sithis himself never stepped, so to speak.

I'm not even arguing for my character so much as just lore in general. Lol
Also, I'll be wanting a written description of Tyrion's appearance. Average height, facial features, etc. The pic is good, but somehat vague.


Alright. I can give the details lacking. Not a problem.
Aran

She looked at Nigel with a faint smile. It was nice that he was willing to take the man off her hands and tend to his care. Aran placed the man on Nigel's back and they began walking to courtyard of the guild. Many people had arrived and it pleased Aran. Alec had sent her here to find the dirt and disgust of the guild but instead she could only see people worried about innocents being attacked. Maybe this mission was wrong and Alec was a fool. Just maybe. The doors of the guild opened once again as Man Li stepped out with one of the more prominent mages of the guild, Shifter. Before they spoke, Shifter walked over to the man on Nigel's back and placed his hand on his head.

"Everyone. I am glad you have came. Its good to see so many here. The plan is Shifter will use his Arc of Movement to get you to Augustine Town in moments but, he cannot stay as battle is not his forte. You all find the demon menace and eradicate it. Don't act as two separate guilds but as one cohesive unit. Go. Bring honor to our guild." Man Li spoke and as soon as Shifter gained a clear image from the man's mind, everyone in the immediate area excluding Man Li had been teleported. In a flash of blue light, everyone that had volunteered appeared in the middle of the street of Augustine Town. There was a problem though. The sky was bright and sunny whilst many people were walking around in what looked like a carnival. Joyous laughter all around and a faint smell of cinnamon in the air.

"What is going on?" Aran asked in a confused voice.

OOC: For everyone that is there, the smell of cinnamon will begin causing small hallucinations of gruesome images of demons every now and then. Incorporate that into your posts if you will.

Sairis

Sairis dashed into the attack with his block up and body fortified to take the brunt of the attack. So much force crashed through Sairis, sending off his feet. As he sailed backwards, he opened his eyes to see Renji was already above him. "What?" Sai asked dumbfounded before Renji slashed downward. The blade cut through the fortification, creating a wound on Sairis's stomach. He winced in pain and Renji's boot collided with Sairis's face. Blood spilled and Sairis felt a pain that he had not felt in a long time. His body slammed into the ground with a loud slam, earth dented by the force.

"Ya know, you are really strong. I coincide that the first punch hurt like hell. Too bad I've worked on my body. Get up and show me what you got." Renji commented on his opponent's performance. Something broke inside of Sairis at the moment and as he stood up, he opened his mouth to release a red whirlwind of blood toward Renji. The attack carried the similar force of Renji's first attack and he had to block to take the force of the attack. Sairis was confused about what he just did and he wouldn't get time to figure it out. "Nice try." Renji spoke before thrusting his blade through Sairis's back. His eyes widened in shock and his foe pulled the blade slowly from his body, kicking him to the ground in the end.
And like I said, you have no idea if that's unique for my character to learn first and its harder for him to keep full form, or how long it takes to learn, or what.
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A prevailing trend across the Zoan type is evidenced. Marco knows how to do it, but Marco is a member of one of the most powerful new world crews. Which is more likely: that Marco is just powerful, with years of experience fighting in the new world under the second greatest pirate to ever live, or that the established Rules of the fruit tupe just don't apply to mythics?


Except there is not rule stating that I can't. Actually it is with training that Zoans can go upon their own unique transformations. Chopper is one of the weakest in the straw hat and he can assume several different forms with or without Rumble Ball. Which without shows us that his body was always capable of doing it but he lacked the training. Which my character consistently does with his DF. You have no idea what or how long it takes to learn that nor if that is easier for him instead of full transforming. Your prevailing trend is flawed and your "established" rules are a joke. The only thing you are saying to me is that only Marco should be allowed to do it cause none of the other Zoan ventured that DESPITE it not being a rule that Zoan can't do that..which they clearly can cause...Marco.

But if we want to go that route, Mythical Zoan don't follow the trend as they are unique and its stated

EDIT: In the end, your opinion doesn't matter. BrodZ, what is your say?
Sheet forthcoming.
@Kal-El

Except it must not be or else every Zoan user would be doing it. So far the only person we ever see do it is Marco the Pheonix, who is Marco the Pheonix.


So because other Zoan, mostly non-mythical, don't do it and a mythical, which I am, only does it then I shouldn't? Yeah..that makes sense. I'm lying. It doesn't. Once again just because Rob or someone else doesn't do it then I shouldn't. The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
In terms of the sex, I would agree with Pirouette on that matter. After all, killing for him would be a form of passion; it would then make sense for him to partake in other forms of passion, such as debauchery. Not only that, but to force someone into celibacy and then make them retain that for the rest of their life - without your influence on them - Would be pretty much impossible. It is a carnal, physical thing that you can't evolve someone out of - so the sex - and rape - I do agree with.
However, in terms of him leaving the Dark Brotherhood, I doubt he would just be allowed to leave. A more likely thing to occur would be that he was presumed dead by the last member of the last DB sanctuary in Cyrodiil (Bravil, I think it was) - ergo, Cicero. With the rest of the group definitely dead, and Cicero definitely assuming that Tyrion was dead, that would make him dead in the eyes of the last santctuary. Also, what with the Dark Brotherhood falling, that could give him cause to leave. If he's the 'perfect assassin', he'd be able to work out when his group was going under.

That bolded part though
Hmm, I'm loathe to accept anyone who was defected from the Darkbrotherhood as in reality one can't leave it, they only do once they die, merely vanishing one day would have them send their own assassins after you to ensure silence of anything you have learned.
However, since he technically didn't join the brotherhood but was trained since birth, much like the shadowscales then I suppose it might be a special circumstance.
On that note, since you were brought up from birth in the Darkbrotherhood, and that is the only life he has ever known it begs the question of why he left?
As well as that if they were trying to make the ultimate assassin, he'd be celibate, what use does he have for sex when he was designed only to take life?
He'd be more like a machine than he would be a man.

Anyway, they're just my thoughts on it, the other gm's will clear up any of their own points and we will convene if anything needs changing, other than that, it's a fairly decent sign up.
It'll be good to have another stealthy person In the group.


I haven't revealed his fully history so there is context missing. Especially on his escape. I never stated how long it has been since he broke free of the Brotherhood but his "leave" happened around the same time as that sects fall. There is meant to be spaces to be filled through actions and discussions throughout the rp itself. Also what says he has to be celibate? I don't see that. Plus in lore the Dark Brotherhood never blocked away sex, love or anything of that nature. Sithis himself had children and was "married" to the Night Mother, though not his own words. The Skyrim sect had a married couple. His training was purely to create the ultimate assassin but you mistake that he must be an emotionless void when the Brotherhood never was about that. Their tenets do not state and members openly throw their emotions around.

On topic of TDB: One, even a Shadowscale, does not leave The Dark Brotherhood without first greeting Sithis as they enter the Void. One of the many reasons the Last Shadowscale is in Skyrim is because for one: The Dark Brotherhood is all bet dead with the Dragonborn intervening as a Member, and secondly because with the fall of this Infamous collection the people who gave up their Hatchlings or wished to join the Order began to decide against it, due to the "Stay or Die" rule. Shadowscales became less popular because while in the old ages they were FORCED to be given up, in the later ages Parents could prevent them from being made to join The Dark Brotherhood.

Ultimately, even in it's decline, if he an assassin as you want him to be, he would be killed upon attempt at leaving. Shadowscales were the best of their kind, the most natural form of assassin trained as the ultimate assassins from birth, and even they could not escape the Wrath of Sithis.

On the topic of Carnal Relations: I must also agree with Leos on this, as it would be possible for him to develop desires, and moods towards certain sensations, he wouldn't just courting women as he goes, for the company of flesh without a reason. That fits more of a literature stereotype and character Archetype in other forms of stories, but with this, it would be rather out of place. He would need a reason to court, as in a time-period like that courting was a series matter and done right by men to honor what a woman truly was, especially in Skyrim when it comes to it's hardy lassies and stout Shield Maidens. Over all, a man trained from birth similarly to a Shadowscale would likely follow many of the same methods, including the renouncing of need for such petty desires and wills, and would be trained out of needing carnal relations. It would take him a few long decades to get the will, desire, and thoughts of such thing back properly.

This is just my set of points from my own knowledge and experience, not a full verdict. Roze gets that honor, as the Gm. ^^


Most of my points are up above but, Wrath of Sithis is never stated to be directly from the Sithis. Plus the Night Mother and the First Listener believed they heard his voice. When do Shadowscales enter the Void? I don't remember such a thing. Sithis has never actually made an appearance or spoke. No one enters the Void as it is what existed before Oblivion and everything but supposed to be where you go when you die as worshippers believe.
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