The Jest

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@The Jest

Also jest we may have to remind everyone that they can post now since I've been seeing them look at the page and they never post

@Godlikeblade

I've already tried that by mentioning everyone and telling them that the IC is up.

Devil's Advocates (Saving the world...by burning it down!)

@The Jest

Is that a yes or a no?

@Godlikeblade

Honestly hard to say. It really depends on if you believe "Unable to understand or comprehend fear = Fearless". If you believe that, then yes. If not, then no.

In this case? I suppose it would mean that, so yes, they are technically fearless. But not for long. ^^

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@The Jest Sweet I'll get a CS up momentarily. Just a question real quick. Would a power revolving around fear be possible? In your first OOC post I noticed you said that "all mankind's evils were expunged from their souls" Now would that render others fearless? I just want to be sure I'm not blatantly ignoring your lore.

@CriticalHit

A good question, you get a thank for that. XD

The answer for that is both yes, and no. It's not really that they are "fearless", it's more like fear is incomprehensible to them, they don't understand fear because nothing in their life would make them fear. As @Warborn123 has put it, the world is filled with happiness and peace, so fear would be an eldritch concept to them.

Destruction, too, is an eldritch concept to them. That's why the objective will be destruction, and from destruction, fear shall follow suit as they struggle to understand. Like an infection that starts to loosen the angels grip upon them.

Devil's Advocates (Saving the world...by burning it down!)

@CriticalHit Always happy to have a fellow P5 fan: Yes. there is space left. ^_^

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@The Jest It's neither shocking nor incomprehensible, you speak like having my opinion is stupid and I'm stupid for having it, but I'm pretty certain if you were to ask random people if they wanted to live in this world, most of them would say yes.

@Warborn123

I assure you, that was not my intention. I meant you no offense, it's just that I noticed how it seemed like this concept incomprehensible to some people. I won't say how or why that is, and I admit, I might be to blame for that. Maybe I didn't write it as properly as I should have, or maybe some things just never occurred to me that people would use.

I agree with @Godlikeblade, however, that this IS morally debatable, and that we would be going around in circles til the actual trumpets sound. At the very least, we are in a moral grey. Desire, as needed for the existence as I feel it is, I will not deny is the mother of all sin, after all. Restoring it, or keeping the world without it, each has its reasonable points, and we shall leave it at that.

But interestingly, as an experiment to what you said: I have been asking everyone I know out of curiosity if they agreed with this post, and so far the answers has been "no." I will grant, however, that it's still early on, give them time and they might prove you right, you never know. But so far, they disagree.

Devil's Advocates (Saving the world...by burning it down!)

Ok Humanity was so evil that god himself had to put an end to it, but the angel's came and fixed the world, so the Angels create a perfect society where every ambition is fulfilled, everyone is happy, and everything is perfect, and we're trying to change everything so that people can be evil, crappy human beings again.

Wait..Are we technically the bad guys?.

@Warborn123

It shocks me how incomprehensible this concept is to some people.

It's true that everything is hunky-dory thanks to the angels, however, there is a reason they say there's no such thing as Perfection, or rather, why perfection should not exist.

Desire and want has been taken from the human race. What feelings they may have are only illusions in this state of being, a way of the angels to make them feel more enjoyable, more entertaining in some cases. Everyone are quite like puppets being pulled by their "consciences", the angels that tell them what to do and what to think and how to feel.

Everyone IS "happy", but not by "choice". They are not alive in that state, they are really no different to machines in that respect.

Yes, the end result of their rebellion will return the world to having crappy people, but it will also return to having people that are happy because they 'choose' to be happy, back to people who 'chose' hope of their own volition, instead of having it forced upon them.

In the perspective of what is being done to achieve this: Yes, we are the bad guys, the terrorists, the Monsters. At best, our goals are a Moral Gray and there's no denying that. But it's ultimately for a benevolent intention...even if the people outside the infected, or the infected themselves do not see it.

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oops ^^ well @Ryouko@The Jest maybe Lord Metallix reprograms him after Aion try's to fix him starting the weapon systems leading to the terminator attacking

@Blueflame

And as Lord Metallix is on no side but his own, It makes the terminator be able to target anyone regardless of alignment. ^^

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@Ryouko@The Jest then I may need to go with The Jest is that ok with you Jest?

@Blueflame

*Points to the post above yours* ^_^

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In which case, Lord Metallix can have him after the repairs.

@The1Rolling1Boy

I have ways... >=3

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@Letmehaveone2hey for my terminator I kinda want it to be found and reprogramed by someone think anyone would want a pet terminator with only slight malfunctions and anger issues? *Evil grin*

@Blueflame

Lord Metallix would have use for it, and has the intellect to perform the reprogramming.