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@SleepingSilence Just because stories can be set defined in categories doesn't mean they're each copies of the other.
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Just because stories can be set defined in categories doesn't mean they're each copies of the other.


I'll have to look for where that's said. <.<'

But, yeah. Familiar isn't a synonym for identical.
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I'll have to look for where that's said. <.<'

But, yeah. Familiar isn't a synonym for identical.


Well when you say "nothing is original" and you use that as a reference for the claim, it implies you think nothing is original because they follow simple plot structures and I disagree.
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Categorization isn't saying "original" is dead, but as a human culture, we tend to tell the same stories throughout time. What changes and what innovates these stories is changes in modern society, in technology, in belief, etc.

The tropes are the same, but the paint is brand new.
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Well when you say "nothing is original" and you use that as a reference for the claim, it implies you think nothing is original because they follow simple plot structures and I disagree.


Except, I also included "tropes are used because they're effective". So you'd think that would potentially imply they're versatile for it. (Hence, the same trope can be used multiple ways, and still be that trope.) Or the context of "all stories can be narrowed down" which directly states, when you trim fat you can get the same results. Acknowledging that fat (unique flavor) exists to trim in the first place.

So we probably don't disagree. But who I am to judge?

Categorization isn't saying "original" is dead, but as a human culture, we tend to tell the same stories throughout time. What changes and what innovates these stories is changes in modern society, in technology, in belief, etc.

The tropes are the same, but the paint is brand new.


What he said.
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Except, I also included "tropes are used because they're effective". So you'd think that would potentially imply they're versatile for it. (Hence, the same trope can be used multiple ways, and still be that trope.) Or the context of "all stories can be narrowed down" which directly states, when you trim fat you can get the same results. Acknowledging that fat (unique flavor) exists to trim in the first place.

So we probably don't disagree. But who I am to judge?

I didn't say tropes weren't effective. We probably are just disputing what constitutes "original."

Categorization isn't saying "original" is dead, but as a human culture, we tend to tell the same stories throughout time. What changes and what innovates these stories is changes in modern society, in technology, in belief, etc.

The tropes are the same, but the paint is brand new.

I agree with that.

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I agree with that.

In short. If you agree with the statement above. There's basically no difference here.

But, to clarify. The point of saying "nothing is original if you boil things down enough". Isn't stating a preference, or even really an opinion either way. It's a well-observed fact that people have been using and subverting many of the same tropes and archetypes for generations. Even before specific terms were created for them in some cases. But that's not a good, nor bad thing on principal. It's how you write it that counts.

My original statement doesn't even really go into what I find "original" personally. But I can bet, that's different for everyone.
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Original is always based on somthing, they always have a few elwments that people took from some other place, or another.

It's a original alamaigmation of ideas that people have assembled, tweaked, modified into a new form..

Granted we see alot of the same type like hero academy, and others but those equally are popular and what people like. Otherwise we not see such a glut of them.

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I've killed about a baker's dozen different Narutos IC.


The Narutos and Ichigos were always the most satisfying.
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Fandoms are easier since you don't have to engage in world-building and such. It's for that same reason I think that realistic modern settings are also popular.
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