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Thanks very much, can't wait for it to start.
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🤨I think it's as done as it's going to be (barring any fixes that might be needed i.e. places I reference already established details/characters).
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So here for this! Get that sample up and we're in business!
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Sample's done. Not sure if I like it. But it's up.

Edit: Aged Lorna up so Alex and Lorna's age gap in the past wasn't weird.
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Just wanted to answer where you said "If I can coordinate with the Havok player there’s some personalized stuff to handle" -- definitely hit me up if/once you get accepted. I can already see playing off of your sample post (not to assume it'll be an actual one, just to say I can vibe with what you're thinking with it).
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Sample's done. Not sure if I like it. But it's up.

Edit: Aged Lorna up so Alex and Lorna's age gap in the past wasn't weird.


Amazing! I'm going to go ahead and start the 48 hour timer from your last edit, 4hrs ago, so 44 hours left for any competing apps

Edit: also, just to let y'all know I will be aiming for the IC opening at roughly 21:00 GMT (Sat 13) but it may be later depending on how long I'm out today.
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Yassss, need more of this Stephen please and thank you!
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Congratulations! Iron Man is now



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I've decided to give a little more time to let the characters still under review a chance to finish up before the IC goes live formally, so I will now be aiming for a formal start to the IC on Monday.
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I want to ask if I can apply as Dr. Doom, but as an anti-hero? I will probably have to change his canonical relationship with Reed Richards from rivals to friends, and might even kill off Richards in Doom's backstory for dramatic 'oomph'.
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I want to ask if I can apply as Dr. Doom, but as an anti-hero? I will probably have to change his canonical relationship with Reed Richards from rivals to friends, and might even kill off Richards in Doom's backstory for dramatic 'oomph'.


Hiya, thanks for your interest. This isn't really the kind of application we would be looking to accept at this time sorry. We may be open to accepting villainous concepts later down the line but not at this stage in the game. Doom as an Anti-Hero would be too significant a departure.
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Hiya, thanks for your interest. This isn't really the kind of application we would be looking to accept at this time sorry. We may be open to accepting villainous concepts later down the line but not at this stage in the game. Doom as an Anti-Hero would be too significant a departure.


Ok, let me flip this around instead, my original idea was that Doom ends up becoming a member of the Fantastic Four, so I could instead just apply for the Fantastic Four, while including Doom as part of their supporting cast, and apply for him later when villain slots open up. Would I be allowed to apply for the entire team, or would I have to pick one of them? I would pick Susan Storm ie. The Invisible Woman if I can only pick one.
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Ok, let me flip this around instead, my original idea was that Doom ends up becoming a member of the Fantastic Four, so I could instead just apply for the Fantastic Four, while including Doom as part of their supporting cast, and apply for him later when villain slots open up. Would I be allowed to apply for the entire team, or would I have to pick one of them? I would pick Susan Storm ie. The Invisible Woman if I can only pick one.

Yeah, more than welcome to apply for Sue, or to apply for the team as a whole.




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Edit: the IC should be all ready to go live in the next few hours everyone
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Yeah, more than welcome to apply for Sue, or to apply for the team as a whole.


Okay, I just wanted to make sure the current roster I have in my mind will be acceptable.

1. Sue Richards The Invisible Woman is the leader of the FF
2. Johnny Storm The Human Torch is the second member
3. Jennifer Walters She-Hulk replaced Ben Grimm The Thing when he regained his human form and retired
4. Kamala Khan Ms. Fantastic (canonically Ms. Marvel) fills in for Reed Richards' missing stretching powerset.

In my reimagining, Reed Richards died saving the other founding members in the space accident that gave them their powers. Reed Richards also previously befriended Dr. Doom, who was inspired by Richards' death to turn a new leaf and become one of the founding members of the FF. Over the years, the size of the FF has fluctuated, and it made sense when it was the Fantastic Four or the Fantastic Five, but if it ever fell to 3 or went to 6, the alliteration didn't work, so the team eventually got renamed to the Fantastic Force. Due to Doom's increasingly socialist views, NATO labels him a threat to global peace, so he eventually officially leaves the FF to focus on running his nation of Latveria, but still continues to support the FF through finance and intelligence. So I will be including Doom as a supporting character, but will not apply for him until villainous/anti-hero slots open up.

Is this all acceptable? If so, I will start working on the application sheet proper.
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Okay, I just wanted to make sure the current roster I have in my mind will be acceptable.

1. Sue Richards The Invisible Woman is the leader of the FF
2. Johnny Storm The Human Torch is the second member
3. Jennifer Walters She-Hulk replaced Ben Grimm The Thing when he regained his human form and retired
4. Kamala Khan Ms. Fantastic (canonically Ms. Marvel) fills in for Reed Richards' missing stretching powerset.

In my reimagining, Reed Richards died saving the other founding members in the space accident that gave them their powers. Reed Richards also previously befriended Dr. Doom, who was inspired by Richards' death to turn a new leaf and become one of the founding members of the FF. Over the years, the size of the FF has fluctuated, and it made sense when it was the Fantastic Four or the Fantastic Five, but if it ever fell to 3 or went to 6, the alliteration didn't work, so the team eventually got renamed to the Fantastic Force. Due to Doom's increasingly socialist views, NATO labels him a threat to global peace, so he eventually officially leaves the FF to focus on running his nation of Latveria, but still continues to support the FF through finance and intelligence. So I will be including Doom as a supporting character, but will not apply for him until villainous/anti-hero slots open up.

Is this all acceptable? If so, I will start working on the application sheet proper.


So, I'm not going to be able to okay Jen and Kamala as members of the F4, sorry.

They're too popular in their own right to be bundled together as one "character". I know Jen has appeared in incarnations of the Fantastic Four but so have half the Marvel cast at this point.

In regards to Doom, I would be inclined to see how you put this idea forward in the application; to my tastes a heroic, socialist Doom does seem less a reimagining in keeping with the core of the character and more bordering on an OC with a shared name. However, I fully hold my hands up and say I may just be being unnecessarily precious. As long as the idea is developed well there shouldn't be a problem
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Attention @Master EffeX @Byrd Man @Supermaxx @udonoodles @TGM @mattmanganon:
The IC is now live - feel free to start posting now!
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So, I'm not going to be able to okay Jen and Kamala as members of the F4, sorry.

They're too popular in their own right to be bundled together as one "character". I know Jen has appeared in incarnations of the Fantastic Four but so have half the Marvel cast at this point.


This is reasonable. However I would still like to keep the number of members around four, so I think I'll poach some members of the Inhuman Royal Family (House of Agon), since I don't think they're that popular, and although they were former enemies of the FF, they soon became allies afterwards and collaborated often. Let me know if this is acceptable.




In regards to Doom, I would be inclined to see how you put this idea forward in the application; to my tastes a heroic, socialist Doom does seem less a reimagining in keeping with the core of the character and more bordering on an OC with a shared name. However, I fully hold my hands up and say I may just be being unnecessarily precious. As long as the idea is developed well there shouldn't be a problem


The main inspiration for "Based Doom", or "Dr. Fantastic", as I have started referring to my reimagining as, are these pages, conveniently analyzed in this article, which show that ultimately canon Doom's goals are for the benefits of humanity, but he is too willing to sacrifice others to achieve these goals, believing these as necessary. I feel the main impetus for Doom's villainy lie in his arrogance and vanity, as well as his hatred for Reed Richards. So the main difference in this reimagining is what if Reed and Victor had become friends instead? Of course, I am not trying to convince you right now, and will start working on an application once I get adding some Inhuman Royal Family members to the FF roster approved, and will let the application hopefully do the convincing.
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