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@Deos Morran Oh so we're on the same page with that.

In the real US military, you go to officer training to gain an officer's commission. Hence why Lieutenants are young. But enlisted recruits wouldn't be a Lieutenant in a few years. It is incredibly rare for an enlisted to rise to a commissioned officer, especially so in such a short time. However that's the human military.

Everything we know about Turian ranks is that everyone joins at 15, and people who want to be officers train even longer than enlisted. They get promoted based on the recommendations of their peers and their superiors. So she would have been placed in training first, she wouldn't have been put into dangerous covert field assignments right away being so young. If she wanted to be a Lieutenant, the training would have been long and intense and she'd need to show command ability. And she'd still be a typical soldier, not an elite who gained the attention of the Spectres. So you'd have to come up with something that makes her stand out in her later career since you can't have a Reaper attack in her teenage years.

Yeah Aegon has a mexta. It's a turian sword, a family heirloom of his. Kind of like an officer's saber.
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@MrDidact See that was kinda my thought on the officer thing and I was basically tying her lone infiltrator position as a sort of Warrant Officer tier or as like an officer of the Special Forces as in the real American Army... But of course this isn't the real world... or even with Humans... So maybe it would make more sense for her to be enlisted...

As for the early Reaper attack I was just kinda attributing that to it being an early attack effort in the start of the Reaper War. But even then I don't think the Reaper War lasted 6 years... So probably gonna have to adjust those time values to put her in canon constraints...

And as for her being seen by the Spectres it's what she did during the Reaper War that would put her in their sights. Using her hatred and efficiency to kick much ass in her unique way.
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You could always have the incident be something that happens when she's already in the military after having more training. She's on leave at home when the war starts and the attack begins. It would also make more sense for someone who's already a trained soldier to survive such a situation.

I would also add that the Turian defensive forces wouldn't buckle and retreat so haphazardly. Doctrine states that they'd hold out as long as possible before attempting to withdraw in good order, covering the retreat with traps and a strong rearguard. It wouldn't be a everyone for themselves dash.
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@MrDidact ITs funny you say that... I no shit was just typing how she was involved in the War of Taetrus as an Infiltrator where she dealt with splinter cells of the Facinus and once that mess was over she went back home when the Reapers attacked. I'm dead serious I'v already wrote...

"When Alria was 15 she went off to the military academy learning her way around in the Turian armed forces and honing her skills with a pistol and her own hands. While not exactly a conventional method of combat she proved to be exceptional at it which raised some attention to her skill. Upon placing her in an Infiltrator roll and assigning her to one of the many units that went to Taetrus to combat the Facinus separatist group.

Her skills and stealthy ability proving invaluable at taking out splinter cells located throughout the planet specifically working in Spaedar and Madra to weaken their fortified positions and damage their fragmented infrastructure.

However, due to her role as a ghost she"

AS for the panic I claimed the civilian element buckled. The soldiers held the walls faithfully to the end much as Alria's parents had. The only issue with their lack of retreat was that they were surrounded and essentially the attack was so strong and sudden on an outpost with a population of about 200-300 that it didn't leave much room for tactical planning.
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@MrDidact See that was kinda my thought on the officer thing and I was basically tying her lone infiltrator position as a sort of Warrant Officer tier or as like an officer of the Special Forces as in the real American Army... But of course this isn't the real world... or even with Humans... So maybe it would make more sense for her to be enlisted...


Just as a bit of info, warrant officers are basically the top of the NCO food chain, they're the guys who went up from private and climbed the ranks. Most warrant officers are lifers who are middle-aged and are the guys lieutenants turn to for experience.
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@DervishOh trust me, I'm tracking. I work with a bunch of them. That's why I was basically saying that she'd be more effectively a Warrant Office in the essence she is an office who actually does stuff. Age variances aside...
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@Deos Morran If she was on Taetrus and if she was CQC she would most likely be part of the hastatim, those were the forces they used to clear buildings and fight insurgency. They're special forces as well. But they have a nasty reputation despite their essential role.

Civilians are former military though, they all know how to fight and serve as a militia in war. Not saying they wouldn't buckle eventually but they wouldn't panic like a human colony with mostly untrained civvies would.
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@BlackSam3091Agreed wholeheartedly. Plus, it wouldn't make much sense for someone to be both a talented long range specialist as well as have special CQB capability.

To be honest, I'd like to see a up-close-and-personal infiltrator. We have a ton of snipers, but no assassins.
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@MrDidact Wait so literlaly all Turians go through military training at age 15? I thought that was just an option they had... In that case I got some writing to do...

EDIT: Holy crap I just googled the Hastatim and that totally fits her too. Remember how I said that whole loyalist and ruthless feature she has about the collateral element? This is a reason she has that! I didn't even know the Hastatim was a thing but this is the best! Thanks for that pointer!
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@DervishOh trust me, I'm tracking. I work with a bunch of them. That's why I was basically saying that she'd be more effectively a Warrant Office in the essence she is an office who actually does stuff. Age variances aside...


Yeah, it's just for the whole age thing a warrant's kind of an off example, since if those guys were officers, they'd probably be floating around colonel in terms of experience and what not.

@Deos Morran If she was on Taetrus and if she was CQC she would most likely be part of the hastatim, those were the forces they used to clear buildings and fight insurgency. They're special forces as well. But they have a nasty reputation despite their essential role.

Civilians are former military though, they all know how to fight and serve as a militia in war. Not saying they wouldn't buckle eventually but they wouldn't panic like a human colony with mostly untrained civvies would.


Those dudes are basically the turian Gestapo.

@MrDidact Wait so literlaly all Turians go through military training at age 15? I thought that was just an option they had... In that case I got some writing to do...


All turians are conscripted into civil service starting at age 15 and serve until they are 30, where they have the option of leaving their service. Most go into the military, but there's other stuff as well, like policing, medicine, administration, firefighting, etc.
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Basically everyone does boot camp at 15 but serving in the military could literally be any job since the military and civilian sectors are the same thing in Turian society.

No problem, we're all here to help each other.
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Alria History Edit...



Also I really need to head to bed so if there are any more comments please say them and I'll try to take care of them tomorrow.
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I'm learning more about Mass Effect lore from this group than the games at this point, woah.

Oh yeah, will there be a ship that this crew travels around on, or are we permanently on Earth?
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@Mega Birb That's a good question. Ellis has his small schooner, but it's three man vessel at best, and Ellis is the size of three men. I'm pretty sure one of the Quarians has their own ship too, as well as Sicaria, I believe.

Who knows, this could end up with everyone bringing their own ships and just forming some oddball convoy.

Oh, and @Rithy, Cerbs are always a death cult. They're crazy science freaks who are really, really racist. They're the KKK times One million. If you imagine the cops busting into a KKK weapons stronghold, it'd be very similar to to our group knocking on the door of a Cerberus Research and Development facility. Same zealotry, same ideals, same level of hate. They'd open fire on our group as soon as they noticed a non-human. To be honest, at this point, it might be wise to use our three humans to infiltrate and breach. With three humans, Anderson could keep an eye on Ellis, Salissa is there to provide good backup, and suppressive capability. And then you've got Ellis' talents, allowing you to create a large enough diversion that a Krogan in the base is the least of their worries.

That having been said, seriously, Ellis is not trustworthy. Not that he's a common traitor, but motives get skewed in his head. You gotta watch that guy.

Another cool idea would be to use the advance team as a diversion. If the advance team creates enough of a widespread chaos, the sneak team could get in easy. Right behind them, in fact. But the advance team would need to really make a huge scene. Something like... everything on fire would achieve that.
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Migrant Fleet 2.0

But I believe somewhere it was stated we'd have a base of sorts... I could be wrong, but maybe that's where those who don't go on missions will be, so that they can interact (or not) with each other? If that's the case, it could be where the various ships we have will be docked there when the time comes.
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If we're on one ship together I'll have to put forward an NPC sheet. Now I just have to figure out what Vetia's good at...
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@MechonRaptor I think it'll be cool when some of our characters are out on missions, and the rest are at base on down time. It's gonna be some really interesting interpersonal development. I am amazed at how nonchalant everyone was about the gun-swinging xenophobe.
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Will review the sheet when I have when I have more time.

Just a few quick comments, there will be a ship which the group will use to travel the galaxy. Sam and I are in the process of coming up with NPCs with which to populate it with. Many of them are almost as eccentric as the group we assembled here. You are of course free to suggest your own NPCs for the ship.

And Cerberus isn't always super racist, very often they are but not always, but they are very much pro-human. Remember all the nice non-racist Cerberus agents on the SR2 in ME 2? Suffice to say that we will expand on what this version of Cerberus is like generally.
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@MrDidact It's a good point, as they are known to use aliens in a number of functions. That having been said, if anyone remembers Pragia, they did plenty of evil to fellow humans as well.

One more thing, though: Every officer on the SR-2 was specifically chosen because of their personality, to be the best possible match for the crew's captain. So, naturally, the more dangerous and prejudiced individuals would have been passed over for the job.

Cerberus has a bad rep, but their foreign policy seems to be incredible. They have a lot of alien operatives and informants, oddly enough. Plus, they let Shepherd hire an entire team of aliens. That right there was some of the best publicity Cerb could've ever gotten.
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How do people feel about a loyalty mission involving Ja'Far? Possibly involving the murder of a former politician, or several, who have it for his head because the Legionnaires killed their children or something maybe? And their existence might be a liability to the mission because they're vocally against our Batarian's involvement in this squad and maybe have even sent assassins to kill him in the past.

I wanted to bring this up with everyone before proposing it. Just wanted some opinions :)
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