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Just wondering, when you say the character can be from any universe, but must be original, you mean that we may create a character who comes from a certain movie/book/game universe, but may not be any of the existing characters from that universe?
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I'm interested. Making my CS now.
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Welp here's my character that is based off an older profile from War Of The Multiverse. Totally redid her bio though. Hopefully she's fine and I'll probably pick another character of mine to fight in this RP.



There's a problem with the concept that's immediately apparent: Ghidorah is a preexisting character, owned by a company, and if this were a real story this would be grounds for suing on copyright infringement. However...since the crux of the character (the human form and the personality enclosed within) isn't a part of the official character, I might be willing to let this particular instance slide, and warn against similar sheets in the future.

Her powers are too much. Characters can be pretty strong, but yours is over the top. I'm looking for specific downsides and only one or two powers max. Superhuman strength to the degree you described is not a problem, but being able to dodge point-blank attacks is a power in its own right, as is blocking non-physical damage with her wings (though if that's the case it shouldn't block bullets, which are physical). Add to that lightning that can fry someone, explosive lightning, and an explosive energy shield, and it's way, way too strong to start out with. More powers mean each one is weaker. Either eliminate all but two of the powers (except strength), or make each one weak enough so that they're only usable and not overwhelming. For instance, she could shoot individual blasts of lightning with no explosive potential, use her wings as shields in an emergency, and manifest a momentary energy deflector shield that could provide a short-range explosion if struck.

If you drastically weaken her powers, you can keep her Frenzy pretty much the way it is as a sort of payoff if achieved, but given that true Ghidorah would be extremely tough to deal with on a physical level alone, I would recommend weakening it as well.

About the backstory: IC, there is no such thing as the multiverse. There's no awareness of other dimensions existing; its something that's happening solely for the ability for people to pick characters they are really interested in and would have fun playing. Ghidorah couldn't 'find' the tournament of her own volition. Even if she did, the objective of the tournament is the granting of a wish, and Ghidorah's 'wish' to impress people you imply will result from her winning, not as a result of what wish she makes. In essence, that means your character doesn't actually have a wish.

I'm concerned that Ghidorah is a character with such inherent overwhelming power that even if you brought down her abilities to be acceptable with the RP's starting level, there isn't any good justification for this planet-destroying tyrant to even entertain the suggestion of a few mysterious human strangers.

Just wondering, when you say the character can be from any universe, but must be original, you mean that we may create a character who comes from a certain movie/book/game universe, but may not be any of the existing characters from that universe?


That's precisely correct.
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There's a problem with the concept that's immediately apparent: Ghidorah is a preexisting character, owned by a company, and if this were a real story this would be grounds for suing on copyright infringement. However...since the crux of the character (the human form and the personality enclosed within) isn't a part of the official character, I might be willing to let this particular instance slide, and warn against similar sheets in the future.

Her powers are too much. Characters can be pretty strong, but yours is over the top. I'm looking for specific downsides and only one or two powers max. Superhuman strength to the degree you described is not a problem, but being able to dodge point-blank attacks is a power in its own right, as is blocking non-physical damage with her wings (though if that's the case it shouldn't block bullets, which are physical). Add to that lightning that can fry someone, explosive lightning, and an explosive energy shield, and it's way, way too strong to start out with. More powers mean each one is weaker. Either eliminate all but two of the powers (except strength), or make each one weak enough so that they're only usable and not overwhelming. For instance, she could shoot individual blasts of lightning with no explosive potential, use her wings as shields in an emergency, and manifest a momentary energy deflector shield that could provide a short-range explosion if struck.

If you drastically weaken her powers, you can keep her Frenzy pretty much the way it is as a sort of payoff if achieved, but given that true Ghidorah would be extremely tough to deal with on a physical level alone, I would recommend weakening it as well.

About the backstory: IC, there is no such thing as the multiverse. There's no awareness of other dimensions existing; its something that's happening solely for the ability for people to pick characters they are really interested in and would have fun playing. Ghidorah couldn't 'find' the tournament of her own volition. Even if she did, the objective of the tournament is the granting of a wish, and Ghidorah's 'wish' to impress people you imply will result from her winning, not as a result of what wish she makes. In essence, that means your character doesn't actually have a wish.


Yeesh... yeah I was afraid you might say that. And only one to two powers max (minus strength)? Welp... I guess I'll nerf her accordingly. Again, I'll keep enhanced strength... but I'll get rid of agility, nerf the wings accordingly, have the gravity beams not have explosive capabilities, nerf the gravity shield accordingly, keep the Hurricane Winds (but only for the Kaiju form), and keep the neck movements for the kaiju in place. Only in frenzied mode do they become as is. Does this sound good to you?

Well I'll scrap the multiverse thing out of it then. Wish wise I suppose she becomes immortal.

Does all of this sound good to you?

Edit: I've edited all the stuff in my character's profile. How does it look?
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That's precisely correct.


Okay, thanks for clarifying.
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I might of, motherfucking. missed some mistakes and messes in my mound of monsters, brother. It's later here than a game workshop discount.
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Yeesh... yeah I was afraid you might say that. And only one to two powers max (minus strength)? Welp... I guess I'll nerf her accordingly. Again, I'll keep enhanced strength... but I'll get rid of agility, nerf the wings accordingly, have the gravity beams not have explosive capabilities, nerf the gravity shield accordingly, keep the Hurricane Winds (but only for the Kaiju form), and keep the neck movements for the kaiju in place. Only in frenzied mode do they become as is. Does this sound good to you?

Well I'll scrap the multiverse thing out of it then. Wish wise I suppose she becomes immortal.

Does all of this sound good to you?

Edit: I've edited all the stuff in my character's profile. How does it look?


Well, the bio hasn't really been changed, but the power nerfs suit me. One more question: what's the deal with the katana? It's not really dealt with elsewhere, and it makes more sense to me at least she would supplement her mage-esque lighting and shielding with savage melee strikes with her limbs and tail, rather than use a sword.

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I might of, motherfucking. missed some msitakes and messes in my mound of monsters, brother. It's later here than a game workshop discount.


I wish you a good rest. As for your character, he's an especially interesting one. A very complex nature coupled with an extremely simple fighting style would make for a tough combatant. The sort of amorphousness and sheer bodily versatility you describe aren't overpowered if he can still take 'damage'. He's not possessed by overwhelming power, even if he has quite a few abilities. Everything would revolve around trying to outlast and devour the opponent, while tripping them up with his stored goods and wearing them down with mundane attacks; I could see him being played by potential opponents like an encounter with a horror movie villain. I'm curious as to how his personality would work in-game.

I would make two requests: make it so that regurgitated individuals don't permanently lose the power that Smiley steals while they're eaten, and remove the 'notable items' that he's got stored in his gut. There will be notable items aplenty for him to find and devour without introducing new ones, and the only special items that characters should start out with anyway that aren't core should be the phylactery.

A pretty cool and original idea. You may port him over to the characters tab as a member of the Crucible.
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Yeah, no offense to Lugubrious but I'm gonna drop out. Can't think of anyone to app as, and all the original characters I do have who might be competitive have no reason to compete. Sorry.
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Yeah, no offense to Lugubrious but I'm gonna drop out. Can't think of anyone to app as, and all the original characters I do have who might be competitive have no reason to compete. Sorry.


I'm sorry to hear that, though unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying by 'can't think of anyone to app as', you could always create a new character just for this RP. That's what I'm doing.
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I'm sorry to hear that, though unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying by 'can't think of anyone to app as', you could always create a new character just for this RP. That's what I'm doing.


Well I meant both using old original characters as well as creating one specifically for this. I'm just not that creative when it comes to competitive RPs, especially when I look at all the characters that have been submitted by other people.
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Here's my shot. He may be too powerful, but god I love this character and really want to use him again.
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@Flamelord Lol don't worry about it. I've literally made a one armed brawler. I think we're going in more for the story rather than just seeing who wins what.
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Sure thing, brother. I moved his mentionables into the unquestionables and shifted him to the, motherfucking. cs field.
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Well I meant both using old original characters as well as creating one specifically for this. I'm just not that creative when it comes to competitive RPs, especially when I look at all the characters that have been submitted by other people.


Darn. Well, if you insist, better luck elsewhere. As Green said, it's not all about winning, even if competition is a primary element, but I can totally get being turned off by the premise.



Here's my shot. He may be too powerful, but god I love this character and really want to use him again.


Your estimation was correct. In his current state, he would be impossibly overpowered for the sake of the RP. Unbreakable defense, insurmountable strength and skill, incredible magic, not to mention brains and looks...forgive me, but he almost seems Gary Stu-ish. The best way to start reining him in, I think, would be to take two aspects of his combat ability and completely excise it. The four main departments -defense, strength, skill, and magic- could be cut in half. He could forego his armor and magic to arrive at a very strong glass cannon with pronounced drawbacks, or sacrifice all melee prowess in order to become a magic-raining bastion. Of course, even the remaining aspects would need to be toned down somewhat. The alternative, of course, would be to nerf all four aspects down to a reasonable level. I hope that even after these necessary nerfs, he will still be a character you'll love to use again.

I'd recommend taking a look at the characters that have been accepted so far to get an idea of the general power level. I'm looking for either a couple high points, or a lot of medium points in terms of power. The stronger a character is in a particular area, the greater the drawback I'm looking for in an oher--balance is the key.
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Darn. Well, if you insist, better luck elsewhere. As Green said, it's not all about winning, even if competition is a primary element, but I can totally get being turned off by the premise.


Eh, I'm fine with not winning when it comes down to it. I was just having a hard time thinking of a way to even be competitive. The RP wouldn't be much fun if I got curbstomped in the first serious match, you know?

Thanks anyways, and I wish you good luck.
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Of course, it's worth noting that whether you win or lose would be mostly based off of your personal writing skill, how well you convey characters, and the coolness of the story rather than the strength of the opponent's character, since you have complete control over how a portion of any fight possesses and whatever occurs in it becomes canon if you win. Ingenuity on the player's side can help a weaker character overcome a stronger character. That said, it doesn't affect my decision to enforce a generally balanced power level at all.
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I hope this is still open for applications, I'm currently filling out a sheet :)
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Your estimation was correct. In his current state, he would be impossibly overpowered for the sake of the RP. Unbreakable defense, insurmountable strength and skill, incredible magic, not to mention brains and looks...forgive me, but he almost seems Gary Stu-ish. The best way to start reining him in, I think, would be to take two aspects of his combat ability and completely excise it. The four main departments -defense, strength, skill, and magic- could be cut in half. He could forego his armor and magic to arrive at a very strong glass cannon with pronounced drawbacks, or sacrifice all melee prowess in order to become a magic-raining bastion. Of course, even the remaining aspects would need to be toned down somewhat. The alternative, of course, would be to nerf all four aspects down to a reasonable level. I hope that even after these necessary nerfs, he will still be a character you'll love to use again.

I'd recommend taking a look at the characters that have been accepted so far to get an idea of the general power level. I'm looking for either a couple high points, or a lot of medium points in terms of power. The stronger a character is in a particular area, the greater the drawback I'm looking for in an oher--balance is the key.


There's not really a section for weaknesses per say, but were there, I would discuss how contact with sunlight burns his flesh and saps his strength. How silver and living wood cause festering wounds, and that he goes blind from looking at moonlight reflected in silver or in water. How he must feed on the blood of the living to survive, and every passing day that he abstains drives him closer to the precipice of madness, like a rabid dog straining against its ever-weakening leash.

I present these vampiric weaknesses because altering how he is now kind of disassembles his entire character. He's an ancient legendary hero... who's a complete dumbass. He's a heroic paladin... who can't use magic for shit. A juggernaut of steel... but a stiff wind blows him over. He's been fighting for centuries... but he's as good as some guy that's been doing it for less than a decade. See what I'm getting at?
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There's not really a section for weaknesses per say, but were there, I would discuss how contact with sunlight burns his flesh and saps his strength. How silver and living wood cause festering wounds, and that he goes blind from looking at moonlight reflected in silver or in water. How he must feed on the blood of the living to survive, and every passing day that he abstains drives him closer to the precipice of madness, like a rabid dog straining against its ever-weakening leash.

I present these vampiric weaknesses because altering how he is now kind of disassembles his entire character. He's an ancient legendary hero... who's a complete dumbass. He's a heroic paladin... who can't use magic for shit. A juggernaut of steel... but a stiff wind blows him over. He's been fighting for centuries... but he's as good as some guy that's been doing it for less than a decade. See what I'm getting at?


Not many of those weaknesses are pertinent to combat. Even if a couple of the vampiric weaknesses hinder him in specific circumstances, he has so much raw power that it's barely a rut in the road.

When I saw nerf him, I don't necessarily mean he gets some kind of arbitrary debuff that just renders him weaker for no reason. I mean things like he doesn't have his armor, he doesn't have his spear and sword, and similar stuff.

I see precisely what you're getting at, but that kind of immutability presents a severe issue. If there's no way to make him functionally weaker in order to bring him in line, I regret to say there may be no alternative but to choose a different character.

I hope this is still open for applications, I'm currently filling out a sheet :)


I noticed your presence. We're still open, for sure. I'll eagerly await your sheet!

By the way, to everyone: I have yet to make some sort of tally, but the RP does have only 16 slots. At the moment, only 12 remain. You may have noticed that I'm not turning away any newcomers. I have not completely decided yet, but if you do not submit an application before all the slots are filled, you may forfeit your chance to participate.

EDIT: Well, 11 slots, counting one for me. So get cracking!
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@Lugubrious Tell me which, if any or even both, of these you like the sound of.

Dante has undertaken this contest in only the robes of his paladin order, as he pits his will and strength alone against his foes as a testament to his faith. (Possibly allowing sword or spear, or just barehanded, whatever. Possibility of reacquiring his stuff later on)

Whatever place this tournament takes place in is cut off from the gods, severely limiting the holy magic that Dante can draw upon. Additionally, he feels the strength of his faith weaken ever so slightly, putting him at greater risk at falling prey to his dark instincts. (This one doesn't combine too well with absolutely no weapons, since it leaves him almost totally unarmed)
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