Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

[Xandrya]

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Lol your accent is more than slight :P

@Dynamo Frokane

Not for SoFlo it isn't!

but these white nationalist guys just see women as white baby making machines anyway so you wouldn't get too much grief if you just ceased talking one day :D

@Dynamo Frokane

Me stop talking? That will never happen!

[Andreyich]

@catchamber
The fact amerindians get any free shit is enough to discredit your point, and a working bureau for that only helps mine along. But your edits got a chuckle from me.

Also the British isles and many other examples existed without significant outside stimuli and didn't get inbred. People in a Mars colony would get this because of a tiny original sample population most likely unwilling to adhere to strict breeding programs that would avoid said inbreeding

However your meaningless sperging is as ever appreciated.

[Polymorpheus]

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[Andreyich]

How ironic that the amount of ancestry necessary for benefits in the USA ranges from 1/4 to 1/16, depending on the tribe.

that's mostly because metis despite being mixed people are considered separate/unique from either whites or amerindians.

The British Isles and many other examples didn't exist completely independently of other biological groups, like a Mars colony would likely be.

Enough for your hypothetical inbreeding issues to have surface over that time, particularly with the lack of the technologies and record keeping needed to avoid it. Anyway, going by

After all, one of the assumptions of this thought experiment is that the colonists are objectively grouped by ethnicity.

that may well be true but it wasn't said they'd be selected solely by ethnicity.

[Polymorpheus]

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[mdk]

Well as long as he doesn't say the n word, he's A-okay in your book.

@Dynamo Frokane

People I disagree with get to talk. I'm a monster.

[Dolerman]

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People I disagree with get to talk.

@mdk

Unless they say the N-word....

Actually that isnt true because plenty people have said it in this thread but you only call someone out if you arent already friends with them.

Youre not a monster bud, just kinda inconsistent.

@catchamber Careful, this is one of the topics that makes him stop attempting to be a memelord and get all serious and upset. Smells like teen angst.

[Dolerman]

@ReonenMiruel

Well then you arent talking about ethnonationalism, youre just saying that assimilation needs to happen slowly. But I promise you, any actual ethnonationalist, including Andreyich would never accept that a Lebanese person can become an Australian as long as he doesnt sponge off the government and he drives his Ute into a tree.

And the fact you dont care what the population look like 'neon sign nation' as long as it happens gradually actually goes against the idea of ethno-nationalism. They dictate that someone from an arab background, will always think, act and promote arab interests so assimilation is a myth.

Dont adopt scary sounding words just to sound more right wing, youre a conservative who wants slow and limited immigration that has nothing to do with ethno-nationalism.

[mdk]

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@Dynamo Frokane

Coulda sworn that both of us were instructed (by forum staff) to knock this off. Are you NOT knocking this off? Are we doing this again? Just trying to be clear. While you chew on that why don't you go find me an example, maybe that'll help you make up your mind on whether or not you wanna go there.

[ReonenMiruel]

Dont adopt scary sounding words just to sound more right wing, youre a conservative who wants slow and limited immigration that has nothing to do with ethno-nationalism.

@Dynamo Frokane

Fair enough. All I'm saying, though, is that at the present time, a certain level of ethnocentrism is healthy, especially in respect to how other places are doing in comparison to where we are. We got to where we were in these certain places because of how white people, in general, acted in previous generations, and I don't think it's helpful to discount that with the critical theory bullcrap that gets spread around nowadays.

[mdk]

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Fair enough. All I'm saying, though, is that at the present time, a certain level of ethnocentrism is healthy, especially in respect to how other places are doing in comparison to where we are. We got to where we were in these certain places because of how white people, in general, acted in previous generations, and I don't think it's helpful to discount that with the critical theory bullcrap that gets spread around nowadays.

@ReonenMiruel

I dunno about ALL of that. But I'd agree that based on global flashpoints and the like, it's not entirely unreasonable to consider nationality in immigration policy in this present world at this present time. May even be a great idea.

....specifically I dunno about "We got here because teh whiteness!" I mean technically we wouldn't be where we are without two world wars and the Trail of Tears, that doesn't, ya know, mean war and reservations are the tits.

[Dolerman]

Coulda sworn that both of us were instructed (by forum staff) to knock this off. Are you NOT knocking this off? Are we doing this again? Just trying to be clear. While you chew on that why don't you go find me an example, maybe that'll help you make up your mind on whether or not you wanna go there.

@mdk

Ummm pretty sure you tagged me after we were told to knock it off, maybe you shouldn't @ people you don't want to talk to, sound like a good idea?

Cool, lets try that.

[Dolerman]

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Fair enough. All I'm saying, though, is that at the present time, a certain level of ethnocentrism is healthy, especially in respect to how other places are doing in comparison to where we are. We got to where we were in these certain places because of how white people, in general, acted in previous generations, and I don't think it's helpful to discount that with the critical theory bullcrap that gets spread around nowadays.

@ReonenMiruel

Right, but you seem to want to talk in identity politics on one hand to talk about the positives of whiteness as a whole based on achievements of certain historical figures and certain current individuals who happened to be white, but then when it comes to yourself, you want to be seen as an individual as one of the 'good' arabs (lebanese?) who aren't white but can assimilate into majority white countries perfectly and freely mix races with the population.

You can't have it both ways either your race matters or it doesn't.

to consider nationality in immigration policy

See even here the distinction is clear, nationality is civic, not ethno-nationalism.

[mdk]

Ummm pretty sure you tagged me after we were told to knock it off, maybe you shouldn't @ people you don't want to talk to, sound like a good idea?

Cool, lets try that.

Dynamo Frokane

I don't "Not want to talk to you." Just lay off ad-hominems (especially imaginary ones) and we can go back to politics.

[Dolerman]

@mdk Well I don't want to talk to you with your constant straw-manning and inability to stay on topic, @ some one else.

[mdk]

@mdk Well I don't want to talk to you with your constant straw-manning and inability to stay on topic, @ some one else.

Dynamo Frokane

Can you express that in the form of a starter pack for me?

[Dolerman]

@mdk You realise the strawman fallacy only applies in the context of an argument/debate, right? A random starter-pack post doesn't qualify, nice attempt at being witty though, but maybe you should stick to buzzfeed articles, they dont say anything back.

[Andreyich]

Huh, it's almost as if ethnicities are solely defined by humans, and are therefore subjectively determined.

just like any word is defined solely by humans. But go ahead with the non-points.

I'm pretty sure that many technologically astute Martian ethnostates would also pursue genetic engineering in less than a millennium, and that'd circumvent the inbreeding issue altogether if properly applied.

cool famalam

[Dolerman]

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