Underrated and Overrated Video Games

[Dolerman]

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I'm not convinced it isn't bad.

@Fabricant451

Based on what?

[Fabricant451]

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Based on what?

@Dynamo Frokane

Based on gameplay footage of people playing the game.

[Gentlemanvaultboy]

@Dynamo Frokane

I can't help but think the same thing, mostly because it seems like a cynical combination of two of the biggest video-game memes of the past couple years ("dark souls" combat and sad dad cinematic experience) attached to the shambling zombie of a franchise that hasn't been relevant for a lifetime in video game terms. It feels corporate in a way even other modern AAA games don't manage.

[Fabricant451]

@Dynamo Frokane
"dark souls" combat

@Gentlemanvaultboy

It doesn't have that at all unless 'pressing R1 to swing weapon, press R2 to swing weapon harder' counts as Dark Souls combat now.

[Dolerman]

@Gentlemanvaultboy@Fabricant451 I take it neither one of you have actually played this game?

Im no God Of War fan, but Id like to hear some actual solid reasons why this critically acclaimed game is bad beyond the fact you dont like his beard.

[Gentlemanvaultboy]

@Fabricant451

That's why I put quotation marks around it. It's not really Souls style combat, but you put that in the hands of your average game journalist they're gonna think "Oh, just like Dark Souls." It's not, but it feels like that was the comparison they were fishing for.

@Dynamo Frokane

I didn't say anything about his beard, I just think that it's the video game equivalent of Oscar bait. I can't take the critical acclaim seriously because it feels like it was strategically aimed at exactly the sort of people that would be giving it that critical acclaim. It's just so cynical.

[Fabricant451]

@Gentlemanvaultboy@Fabricant451 I take it neither one of you have actually played this game?

Im no God Of War fan, but Id like to hear some actual solid reasons why this critically acclaimed game is bad beyond the fact you dont like his beard.

@Dynamo Frokane

It meanders and has a problem with pacing to the point where when it seems like you're reaching a climax it's not even the halfway point. That's a badly paced game. The combat is deliberate but since progression and thus ability unlocks are gated your options combo wise feel more limited in scope unless you stop going off the beaten path to rush ability unlocks; but the game wants you to explore even while it is harping on you for doing so since exploring most times will just get you met with a fat "YOU CAN'T DO THAT YET FUCKO GO BACK ON THE MAIN PATH IDIOT" which is a bad way to incentevize exploration especially in a game world that is a lot smaller than it pretends it is. It makes the game feel like a Metroidvania without the actual gradual unlocks and sense of progress those games do well. The puzzles, by nature of the tools available to the player, are genuinely awful since they consist of "throw your axe in a specific way" or "stand around and wait while the square button drops a chain". Atreus' comments in battle are also superfluous if you have the HUD/UI on which is probably why so many articles express how people should play with no HUD even though the game is clearly designed around having one. It's too much, having the strawberry jam of low health, the increased beats of the sound, the animation expressing near-death status, and then a kid screaming "HEY YOU'RE HURT". The standard 'elite' enemies are not interesting to fight for as many of them as there are. Trolls especially where the only difference is 'this one has fire legs but the same exact animations'.

A game being critically acclaimed doesn't make it immune from issues or criticisms.

[Dolerman]

A game being critically acclaimed doesn't make it immune from issues or criticisms.

@Fabricant451

And issues don't make a game 'bad' either, but I haven't played it and I probably never will so I wont try and build a counter argument off of youtube let's play footage.

[Fabricant451]

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And issues don't make a game 'bad' either, but I haven't played it and I probably never will so I wont try and build a counter argument off of youtube let's play footage.

@Dynamo Frokane

No, what makes a game bad is a collection of issues ruining the core experience. The most impressive part of the game is its dedication to cinematic presentation with a steady cam one take style in cutscenes, but that novelty wears off right around the time the game decides to open up...but not really. There's not a lot of enemy variety or even animation variety which makes the combat stale since there are only so many times fighting slight color variations on shambling zombies, bug elves, or rock monsters with the same exact strategy and attack patterns can be fun.

The most fun I've had with the game so far was getting to the Lake of the Nine and stumbling onto an easily missable quest involving a dragon and another one involving a mine because neither were hindered with the whole "Nope, come back later, stop exploring now" and at least tried to make the puzzles a bit more interesting than "move chain, throw axe," or "throw axe in a line" where the puzzle is more of a puzzle of positioning rather than ingenuity.

It'd be one thing if the story was at least compelling enough to power through but since the characters deal in vague and Kratos is monosyllabic, that's a wash. It makes it really difficult to want to keep playing on the hope that maybe it'll get better because what I've played so far...it's doubtful that it does.

And yet it's still better than the originals.

[Dolerman]

Well I'm never going to play it so whatevs.

In other news...

Only a few months more...

[HachiRoku]

[Fabricant451]

Having now finished it, God of War is a 3/5 and an early contender for this years Breath of the Wild award for 'Most Overrated Game of the Year'.

[Majoraa]

Found an underrated game, bout a guy with a demon mask.



Note: This is just the 2010 remake.

[Dolerman]

@Majoras End

I really do think the beat em up genre needs a revival. I keep seeing these piss poor indie games trying to re-create streets of rage and It seems like someone really needs to just put some proper money towards an I.P. and try it.

Also what's everyone's thoughts on the new Red Dead 2? Reckon it will be as overrated as the last one?

[Fabricant451]

It's a Rockstar game so chances are yes.

[Yamada Zero]

@Majoras End

I really do think the beat em up genre needs a revival. I keep seeing these piss poor indie games trying to re-create streets of rage and It seems like someone really needs to just put some proper money towards an I.P. and try it.

Also what's everyone's thoughts on the new Red Dead 2? Reckon it will be as overrated as the last one?

@Dynamo Frokane

Never played the first game, but I'm expecting it'll be hyped to fuck and overrated by every magazine and reviewer on the internet.

[Dion]

dwarf fortress

best game ever made

[skidcrow]

dwarf fortress

best game ever made

@Odin

I was gonna refute that and say it's Cataclysm DDA but Cataclysm DDA is just post-apocalyptic Dwarf Fortress lite

feelsbadman

[Dion]

@Mara i had no idea someone could make ascii look bad but then i saw cataclysm dda /s

dwarf fortress is better

[skidcrow]

@Mara i had no idea someone could make ascii look bad but then i saw cataclysm dda /s

dwarf fortress is better

@Odin

can't argue with that tbh

everyone shut down the thread we finally found the greatest game of all time