Dragons raised like that can generally survive a few short years before their glands become burned out and they are culled for scales and sent to the meat grinder.
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@Wernher
I've never been a fan of "only I have it" objects but that's not my call.
That said, the dft-77 is a cruel and barbaric method of producing a very high end-limited resource. I love it :)
Einheits are meant to be used in situations where currencies are inconvenient (EG, if you manage to trap yourself in hyper inflation.) and can be used freely. Likewise, dragons can be poached, although it's a bit more complicated. And DFT is as much a problem as it is an asset some would say.
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I dislike dragon scales as they are. It implies that dragons are near invincible, and having a material arguably better than mithril (with being hard to craft arguably more of an advantage than a disadvantage; Vinculi would certainly know how to work it but other nations wouldn't) this just seems far too excessive.
The idea of giant dragons in general is one that I vehemently oppose as being too far into the realm of magic and absurdity, so making derivative materials and super-strong dragon scales only firther offputs me.
The idea of giant dragons in general is one that I vehemently oppose as being too far into the realm of magic and absurdity, so making derivative materials and super-strong dragon scales only firther offputs me.
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@Cyclone I agree on the point that there aren't enough weaknesses for the scales (And the supposed weakness in fact may act as a strength) and should probably be made weaker than mithril to physical force to compensate for its higher levels of heat resistance. (This in-universe would also explain why dragons aren't just curbstomping everything, since the creation of cannons would seriously threaten their continued existence)
however I don't really see you argument towards plausibility of dragons carrying any real weight, or even being hypocritical. If what you are saying is true, then the fairies should not have been allowed on similar grounds (Being realistically absurd), as well as my naga for being essentially genetically impossible.
And that's not even mentioning the obvious physics breaking technology we are already using, like the flying air dreadnoughts, or the just plain impractical like the land dreadnoughts.
however I don't really see you argument towards plausibility of dragons carrying any real weight, or even being hypocritical. If what you are saying is true, then the fairies should not have been allowed on similar grounds (Being realistically absurd), as well as my naga for being essentially genetically impossible.
And that's not even mentioning the obvious physics breaking technology we are already using, like the flying air dreadnoughts, or the just plain impractical like the land dreadnoughts.
@Cyclone The 'can't be worked' is universal and won't change, it can't be melted and if you hit it, it will either not react or break.
And honestly, I don't think it's a concern. At all. Dragons have little to offer except for awesome factor and if their scales had the durability of say, bones, then a single guy with a machine gun would be a match (And arguably, it can still be considering how the eyes don't have scales on them)
Big is not a strength. It's awesome, but ultimately it's a weakness. Just more exposed surface.
So what I want is something awesome but that won't immediately get one shot by anything.
And honestly, I don't think it's a concern. At all. Dragons have little to offer except for awesome factor and if their scales had the durability of say, bones, then a single guy with a machine gun would be a match (And arguably, it can still be considering how the eyes don't have scales on them)
Big is not a strength. It's awesome, but ultimately it's a weakness. Just more exposed surface.
So what I want is something awesome but that won't immediately get one shot by anything.
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It's not really hypocrisy on my part because if you'll recall, I was one of the ones that were really pissed off about the fairies. I almost left because of it. It's gotten to the point where provided they aren't my next door neighbor and I'm not constantly interacting, I'll just silently tolerate it. I don't like being that guy that whines about everything and shuts down every idea.
What it comes down to at the end of the day is me seeing this as a pretty strict sci-fi dieselpunk environment, but others don't necessarilly share my viewpoint. I'm willing to concede that since this isn't my RP I can't have everything the way that I want, but at the same time I don't have to like every idea. You see where I'm coming from?
@Wernher
When you put it that way, I don't mind the dragons so much.
But I maintain that the scales are still way too strong. Mithil is supposed to be like titanium; you say that the dragons could easily die if their scales were like bone, but in reality it's more comparable to the armor on a tank. Probably even better than what Willy's tanks have.
So not only does this make dragons able to just roflstomp over all but the most powerful of weapons, it also gives you an armor plating that almost outdoes Willy's niched mithril in every way. Being unable to mold it doesn't matter that much seeing as you could just make lamellar quilts of scales to put over a tank and give it more armor than anything else and apparently with hardly any additional weight.
In essence I don't think dragon scales should be heat resistant, stronger than mithril, and somehow even lighter all at once.
It's not really hypocrisy on my part because if you'll recall, I was one of the ones that were really pissed off about the fairies. I almost left because of it. It's gotten to the point where provided they aren't my next door neighbor and I'm not constantly interacting, I'll just silently tolerate it. I don't like being that guy that whines about everything and shuts down every idea.
What it comes down to at the end of the day is me seeing this as a pretty strict sci-fi dieselpunk environment, but others don't necessarilly share my viewpoint. I'm willing to concede that since this isn't my RP I can't have everything the way that I want, but at the same time I don't have to like every idea. You see where I'm coming from?
@Wernher
When you put it that way, I don't mind the dragons so much.
But I maintain that the scales are still way too strong. Mithil is supposed to be like titanium; you say that the dragons could easily die if their scales were like bone, but in reality it's more comparable to the armor on a tank. Probably even better than what Willy's tanks have.
So not only does this make dragons able to just roflstomp over all but the most powerful of weapons, it also gives you an armor plating that almost outdoes Willy's niched mithril in every way. Being unable to mold it doesn't matter that much seeing as you could just make lamellar quilts of scales to put over a tank and give it more armor than anything else and apparently with hardly any additional weight.
In essence I don't think dragon scales should be heat resistant, stronger than mithril, and somehow even lighter all at once.
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@Cyclone After reading back on the history, I retract my statements on hypocrisy. Your point of view (more realism, less absurdity) is consistent. I apologize for my assumption.
@Wernher My view is that the scales should probably be lighter, therefore justifying how the dragons can even fly slightly more and should be more heat resistant because it would make sense that a fire breathing creature would evolve skin resistant to its own weapon, however yeah, it should be weaker to Mithril. I'd say that a dragon's skin should be able to defend itself from small arms fire (pistols, bolt action rifles) but something like a 20mm autocannon should seriously hurting it, and things like a direct hit from a 77mm flak cannon or such should pierce its armour completely.
@Wernher My view is that the scales should probably be lighter, therefore justifying how the dragons can even fly slightly more and should be more heat resistant because it would make sense that a fire breathing creature would evolve skin resistant to its own weapon, however yeah, it should be weaker to Mithril. I'd say that a dragon's skin should be able to defend itself from small arms fire (pistols, bolt action rifles) but something like a 20mm autocannon should seriously hurting it, and things like a direct hit from a 77mm flak cannon or such should pierce its armour completely.
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I have to agree with @Serpentine88, as it stands the ability to make lamellar quilts to cover tanks and airplanes basically negates the unworkable nature of the scales and in their currently proposed state makes them simply too effective. If they were highly heat resistant, light, and effective protection up to small arms it'd make more sense. After all the dragons need to be light fly, and if the issue is the dragons being powerful themselves making them have mega strong scales is a pointless means of protection as even if shells weren't able to penetrate the skin the shock of even a 20mm autocannon would be more than enough to result in fatal internal injury.
Everything else you proposed seems fine to me at least, but the scales should be taken down a notch.
Everything else you proposed seems fine to me at least, but the scales should be taken down a notch.
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I just like the process of extracting ember.
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No dragon scales but you can keep the ember if you make it less OP.
No dragon scales but you can keep the ember if you make it less OP.
Alright, then no nothing.
If it's just normal fuel, no point in having such a large and potentially politically dangerous infrastructure going. Too bad.
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Alright, then no nothing.
If it's just normal fuel, no point in having such a large and potentially politically dangerous infrastructure going. Too bad.
I didn't say make it work worthless mate, it can be extremely powerful but how about just making it more volatile?
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On dragons, I really don't mind them. We alread have air dreadnoughts and strike witches that are more fantastical than a big flying creature on wings.
As for dragon scales them being light more durable than mithril can make sense since they need to be light yet well-protected.
Say, they include carbon-nanotubes or other materials which theoretically can be produced with mostly natural means yet they are both light and tough.Similarly it's obvious why you can't just melt the scales into an armor, albeit high heat resistance would require something other than CNT, at least for something better than steel. Perhaps it's a composite? Again, it could make sense.
Rather than the durability of the scale the concern is because they're too thin. Also because dragons need to get close in order to breathe fire on their foes.
As such it was possible to lure in a dragon and then finish it off with ballistae and other such methods. Dragons were a massive threat but it wouldn't work if they could stomp the rest of the world before gunpowder, even.
Thankfully ballistae actually have quite decent penetration, can punch through 30mm steel. Compare this with what we have on our ww2 tanks and it isn't bad at all.
So dragons can be awesome while the world still had a way to deal with them.
Although I don't think armoring airships with dragon scales is a good idea. Their set thickness means you're bound to have inferior amount compared to what the various air warships do have. And at massive cost, since it comes from your limited dragon population.
Their use as personal armor is more justified. Same with tanks or perhaps airplanes.
Albeit it makes me wonder, wouldn't the dragons be suspicious about the DTF? I mean I bet others tried to ue their extracts as our version of the "Greek Fire" so why don't they get the same vibes if somebody suddenly comes up with a "miraculous formula" as super propellant?
Also I feel if it comes from the dragons you won't be able to extract that much on the overall scale. You'd need tens of thousands of tons per year to make a big difference. So DFT would be a very rare strategic resource for you in comparison which I suppose you'd only use in the direst situations in the most over-engineered designs.
If it has twice the energy content then by layman's terms it produces twice as much boom when burned.
Or does it mean it has a massive starting temperature? Can kinda make sense but then it's questionable how the dragons could breathe fire. I mean producing hundreds of degrees in temperature is anything but healthy within your bod.
But well, same could be said about biological flamethrowers so whatever.
As for dragon scales them being light more durable than mithril can make sense since they need to be light yet well-protected.
Say, they include carbon-nanotubes or other materials which theoretically can be produced with mostly natural means yet they are both light and tough.Similarly it's obvious why you can't just melt the scales into an armor, albeit high heat resistance would require something other than CNT, at least for something better than steel. Perhaps it's a composite? Again, it could make sense.
Rather than the durability of the scale the concern is because they're too thin. Also because dragons need to get close in order to breathe fire on their foes.
As such it was possible to lure in a dragon and then finish it off with ballistae and other such methods. Dragons were a massive threat but it wouldn't work if they could stomp the rest of the world before gunpowder, even.
Thankfully ballistae actually have quite decent penetration, can punch through 30mm steel. Compare this with what we have on our ww2 tanks and it isn't bad at all.
So dragons can be awesome while the world still had a way to deal with them.
Although I don't think armoring airships with dragon scales is a good idea. Their set thickness means you're bound to have inferior amount compared to what the various air warships do have. And at massive cost, since it comes from your limited dragon population.
Their use as personal armor is more justified. Same with tanks or perhaps airplanes.
Albeit it makes me wonder, wouldn't the dragons be suspicious about the DTF? I mean I bet others tried to ue their extracts as our version of the "Greek Fire" so why don't they get the same vibes if somebody suddenly comes up with a "miraculous formula" as super propellant?
Also I feel if it comes from the dragons you won't be able to extract that much on the overall scale. You'd need tens of thousands of tons per year to make a big difference. So DFT would be a very rare strategic resource for you in comparison which I suppose you'd only use in the direst situations in the most over-engineered designs.
<Snipped quote by Wernher>Yeah, the non-volatile part didn't make sense to me, either.
I didn't say make it work worthless mate, it can be extremely powerful but how about just making it more volatile?
If it has twice the energy content then by layman's terms it produces twice as much boom when burned.
Or does it mean it has a massive starting temperature? Can kinda make sense but then it's questionable how the dragons could breathe fire. I mean producing hundreds of degrees in temperature is anything but healthy within your bod.
But well, same could be said about biological flamethrowers so whatever.
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On dragons, I really don't mind them. We alread have air dreadnoughts and strike witches that are more fantastical than a big flying creature on wings.
As for dragon scales them being light more durable than mithril can make sense since they need to be light yet well-protected.
Say, they include carbon-nanotubes or other materials which theoretically can be produced with mostly natural means yet they are both light and tough.Similarly it's obvious why you can't just melt the scales into an armor, albeit high heat resistance would require something other than CNT, at least for something better than steel. Perhaps it's a composite? Again, it could make sense.
Rather than the durability of the scale the concern is because they're too thin. Also because dragons need to get close in order to breathe fire on their foes.
As such it was possible to lure in a dragon and then finish it off with ballistae and other such methods. Dragons were a massive threat but it wouldn't work if they could stomp the rest of the world before gunpowder, even.
Thankfully ballistae actually have quite decent penetration, can punch through 30mm steel. Compare this with what we have on our ww2 tanks and it isn't bad at all.
So dragons can be awesome while the world still had a way to deal with them.
Although I don't think armoring airships with dragon scales is a good idea. Their set thickness means you're bound to have inferior amount compared to what the various air warships do have. And at massive cost, since it comes from your limited dragon population.
Their use as personal armor is more justified. Same with tanks or perhaps airplanes.
Albeit it makes me wonder, wouldn't the dragons be suspicious about the DTF? I mean I bet others tried to ue their extracts as our version of the "Greek Fire" so why don't they get the same vibes if somebody suddenly comes up with a "miraculous formula" as super propellant?
Also I feel if it comes from the dragons you won't be able to extract that much on the overall scale. You'd need tens of thousands of tons per year to make a big difference. So DFT would be a very rare strategic resource for you in comparison which I suppose you'd only use in the direst situations in the most over-engineered designs.
<Snipped quote by Voltus_Ventus>Yeah, the non-volatile part didn't make sense to me, either.
If it has twice the energy content then by layman's terms it produces twice as much boom when burned.
Or does it mean it has a massive starting temperature? Can kinda make sense but then it's questionable how the dragons could breathe fire. I mean producing hundreds of degrees in temperature is anything but healthy within your bod.
But well, same could be said about biological flamethrowers so whatever.
I wonder what happen if you combine the 15m jet engine thingy with this new fuel...
>Evilly laughs evilly
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<Snipped quote by Willy Vereb>With that I would build a freakin dragon-shaped airship and mount the jet engine FORWARD.
I wonder what happen if you combine the 15m jet engine thingy with this new fuel...
>Evilly laughs evilly
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<Snipped quote by ClocktowerEchos>With that I would build a freakin dragon-shaped airship and mount the jet engine FORWARD.
Better yet, just make a flying ball with jet engines on every angle. A ball of jet propulsion. A propulsion ball. Don't even need doors or gryos or an escape mechanism, just the Propulsion Ball™
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Rounding out this ns has been a blast. The military section has been fun to balance.
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Brusaleye
Type of Government
Brusaleyans or Brusians, operate a self identified "Socialist republic" but in reality, more of a Kratocrocy.
The government is obsessed with "equality". all things are shared and personal liberties aren't enforced and in most cases, ignored. There is in fact a ruling class, the 'Bradoks' or 'Rightfuls' as they are the descendants of the original Socialist leaders. These 'Bradoks' lead the armies and control nearly every aspect of people's lives.
There is freedoms of expression but to commence a rally or focus group (let alone a demonstration) a full written request must be made, passed by local and lesser federal leaders, and ratified in local courts. There are very few demonstrations in the nation.
The government does its best to be fair when delegating professions at birth, be it army or factory worker. The idea is for one to be as productive in their field as possible. And so far it has worked out for the most part.
The following individuals are the de'facto leaders. Even though control is "shared" by the people, these figureheads make the nations real choices.
Grand High lord for all eternity, His majesty, Lamarr LaChance.
Lamarr was an early immigrant to the continent and was very unimpressed with the backwards populace of modern Brusaleye. He went on to teach the native inhabitants the ways (of that period in history) of modern society. By the time of his death, Brusaleye had grown into a continental powerhouse.
Lamarr has a complete cult of personality. Massive monuments of his breaking mountains in half to portraits depicting a single, amazingly buff manly man pushing a tall building upright.
In reality, he was of moderate build with a short receding hairline. Most of those pictures have since been destroyed.
His official cause of death was stating that his time to ascend was here and wanted to watch over his people for eternity, so he passed on.
In reality, he had contracted syphilis shortly after his son was born. Over time, it started to drive him mad due to the brain damage it was causing. His son, 23 at the time, decided it was best to have Lamarr killed peacefully so that he didn't tarnish his image with potentially devastating orders.
Lord General, President Sydney LaChance.
A direct descendant of the legendary Lamarr. He is the current head and is still forced to deal with the ever increasing strength of foreigners near his lands.
Sydney is of moderate build with an aged, chiseled face. He isn't very unique in build or tall but he does possess a very deep, smooth voice. Deeper than a man of his build would suggest.
General Madugnya
General Sahid Salem
Economy:
Brusaleye's economic position is strong considering its relative seclusion from the major land trade capabilities of the western nations. Regardless of this, they have made their own fortune with the bounty from their own fertile lands.
Metal working and certain cheap yet reliable products are their major trade export capacities. Other than that, their products are rather lackluster.
Brusaleyans or Brusians, operate a self identified "Socialist republic" but in reality, more of a Kratocrocy.
The government is obsessed with "equality". all things are shared and personal liberties aren't enforced and in most cases, ignored. There is in fact a ruling class, the 'Bradoks' or 'Rightfuls' as they are the descendants of the original Socialist leaders. These 'Bradoks' lead the armies and control nearly every aspect of people's lives.
There is freedoms of expression but to commence a rally or focus group (let alone a demonstration) a full written request must be made, passed by local and lesser federal leaders, and ratified in local courts. There are very few demonstrations in the nation.
The government does its best to be fair when delegating professions at birth, be it army or factory worker. The idea is for one to be as productive in their field as possible. And so far it has worked out for the most part.
The following individuals are the de'facto leaders. Even though control is "shared" by the people, these figureheads make the nations real choices.
Grand High lord for all eternity, His majesty, Lamarr LaChance.
Lamarr was an early immigrant to the continent and was very unimpressed with the backwards populace of modern Brusaleye. He went on to teach the native inhabitants the ways (of that period in history) of modern society. By the time of his death, Brusaleye had grown into a continental powerhouse.
Lamarr has a complete cult of personality. Massive monuments of his breaking mountains in half to portraits depicting a single, amazingly buff manly man pushing a tall building upright.
In reality, he was of moderate build with a short receding hairline. Most of those pictures have since been destroyed.
His official cause of death was stating that his time to ascend was here and wanted to watch over his people for eternity, so he passed on.
In reality, he had contracted syphilis shortly after his son was born. Over time, it started to drive him mad due to the brain damage it was causing. His son, 23 at the time, decided it was best to have Lamarr killed peacefully so that he didn't tarnish his image with potentially devastating orders.
Lord General, President Sydney LaChance.
A direct descendant of the legendary Lamarr. He is the current head and is still forced to deal with the ever increasing strength of foreigners near his lands.
Sydney is of moderate build with an aged, chiseled face. He isn't very unique in build or tall but he does possess a very deep, smooth voice. Deeper than a man of his build would suggest.
General Madugnya
General Sahid Salem
Economy:
Brusaleye's economic position is strong considering its relative seclusion from the major land trade capabilities of the western nations. Regardless of this, they have made their own fortune with the bounty from their own fertile lands.
Metal working and certain cheap yet reliable products are their major trade export capacities. Other than that, their products are rather lackluster.
Primary Species:
Humanity comprises nearly 80% of the population. There hasn't been a real census in over a century due to the varying races that make up the nation.
Most any race and prior nationality could exist due to their history of welcoming war refugees and other mass immigrations.
Population:
Roughly 110,000,000.
A recent population boom has begun due to laws demanding every family unit to produce at least two offspring.
Culture
Official culture portrays a life devoted to family and honor. A place of which heroes and saints are born.
Behind the gold laden facade is a place of content workers and little opportunity. The people are generally caring and polite but few have aspirations in life aside from being better in their government mandated fields.
The military does have a somewhat heightened dedication than the other classes just by the perceived aggressive expansion by neighboring colonies. This perception hasn't exploded into hate or fear but it is definitely a thought that lingers in the back of many a soldiers mind.
Religious and Other Beliefs
Any religion could exist within the borders but the country does not recognize any. The nation requires a life pledged to it, which some say is nearly a religion of its own.
History
Long before the nations of the west began developing into full communities, humans on the eastern continent were starting to sail their immediate seas. They possessed strong organized religions and advanced technology for their time. Somewhere along the way, things just stopped progressing.
By the time the west caught up, the easterners had actually begun regressing out of what is most likely the absence of a challenge. Eventually some of the western pioneers landed on the eastern nations shores, they found a complacent land with disorganized communities.
Lamarr was one of these pioneers. He saw the potential of the native people. Their ingenuity was intense and devotion to ideals were extreme. Had they found their identity and pushed as they had before, they could've been a true contender in that time,possibly rivaling any nation in existence.
Lamarr couldn't have that, he wanted a nation of his own that would stay devoted to his will so he hoarded the existing wonders of the eastern native and made it his own. The natives saw these feats as a gift from a blessed man rather than ideas stolen from their ancestors.
There were conflicts along the way but his rise to power was generally peaceful. He finally stopped in the south along a mountain range and in the west by another region of natives that he didn't have the immediate strength to conquer.
By the time Lamarr got the delusion that the west was coming for him and pillage his lands, he fortified his new nation and filled the inhabitants with ideals. His ideals.
Over time, more immigrants from the west brought ideas and technologies, giving his nation a fighting chance in this quickly shrinking world. Gone was the time of exploration. When Lamarr passed, his nation was still progressing rapidly and by some miracle, was still able to keep up with his new rivals.
The colonies of the west gave the nation chances to examine technology from afar and gain ideas. Airships confounded the people and after many attempts to replicate the majesty of air battleships, simply gave up. They decided to find cheaper methods to counter them.
Enter the rocket.
And with it, the modern age of Brusaleye had begun.
Humanity comprises nearly 80% of the population. There hasn't been a real census in over a century due to the varying races that make up the nation.
Most any race and prior nationality could exist due to their history of welcoming war refugees and other mass immigrations.
Population:
Roughly 110,000,000.
A recent population boom has begun due to laws demanding every family unit to produce at least two offspring.
Culture
Official culture portrays a life devoted to family and honor. A place of which heroes and saints are born.
Behind the gold laden facade is a place of content workers and little opportunity. The people are generally caring and polite but few have aspirations in life aside from being better in their government mandated fields.
The military does have a somewhat heightened dedication than the other classes just by the perceived aggressive expansion by neighboring colonies. This perception hasn't exploded into hate or fear but it is definitely a thought that lingers in the back of many a soldiers mind.
Religious and Other Beliefs
Any religion could exist within the borders but the country does not recognize any. The nation requires a life pledged to it, which some say is nearly a religion of its own.
History
Long before the nations of the west began developing into full communities, humans on the eastern continent were starting to sail their immediate seas. They possessed strong organized religions and advanced technology for their time. Somewhere along the way, things just stopped progressing.
By the time the west caught up, the easterners had actually begun regressing out of what is most likely the absence of a challenge. Eventually some of the western pioneers landed on the eastern nations shores, they found a complacent land with disorganized communities.
Lamarr was one of these pioneers. He saw the potential of the native people. Their ingenuity was intense and devotion to ideals were extreme. Had they found their identity and pushed as they had before, they could've been a true contender in that time,possibly rivaling any nation in existence.
Lamarr couldn't have that, he wanted a nation of his own that would stay devoted to his will so he hoarded the existing wonders of the eastern native and made it his own. The natives saw these feats as a gift from a blessed man rather than ideas stolen from their ancestors.
There were conflicts along the way but his rise to power was generally peaceful. He finally stopped in the south along a mountain range and in the west by another region of natives that he didn't have the immediate strength to conquer.
By the time Lamarr got the delusion that the west was coming for him and pillage his lands, he fortified his new nation and filled the inhabitants with ideals. His ideals.
Over time, more immigrants from the west brought ideas and technologies, giving his nation a fighting chance in this quickly shrinking world. Gone was the time of exploration. When Lamarr passed, his nation was still progressing rapidly and by some miracle, was still able to keep up with his new rivals.
The colonies of the west gave the nation chances to examine technology from afar and gain ideas. Airships confounded the people and after many attempts to replicate the majesty of air battleships, simply gave up. They decided to find cheaper methods to counter them.
Enter the rocket.
And with it, the modern age of Brusaleye had begun.
Territories
Glorious pink on the map.
Cities, Bases, etc.:
Capitol city Lamarstus
Will add, TBA
Climate and Agriculture:
The coastal regions are temperate and usually breezy. The Dee interior is more plains than anything. A month long wet season fuels a year of mild dry lands. These areas aren't very capable of real crop growth so the majority of the agriculture is done along the outer parts of the nation.
The majority of the ground is dense, allowing heavier vehicles to drive over without the fear of sinking. However, the mid region is very soft ground. Anything heavier than 15t would find it difficult to traverse.
Industry:
Industry is strong in Brusaleye. Many factories pour tons of black soot into the sky every day. Metal working and mass production is common place. Many speculate that the nation produces stuff to produce stuff as there are fields that have rows of empty turretless tanks and engineless aircraft.
Main Imports:
Oil and other flammable materials to fuel the fires of the many foundries of the nation, (they do not want to use their considerable reserves.) Precious metals.
Exotic foods are quite popular as well as ships of both civilian and military use.
Main Exports:
Anything that the nation has the capacity to build. Mostly mass produced furniture, machine parts and smelted metals.
Tanks, cars, cheap rifles and aircraft are the primary military exports.
Glorious pink on the map.
Cities, Bases, etc.:
Capitol city Lamarstus
Will add, TBA
Climate and Agriculture:
The coastal regions are temperate and usually breezy. The Dee interior is more plains than anything. A month long wet season fuels a year of mild dry lands. These areas aren't very capable of real crop growth so the majority of the agriculture is done along the outer parts of the nation.
The majority of the ground is dense, allowing heavier vehicles to drive over without the fear of sinking. However, the mid region is very soft ground. Anything heavier than 15t would find it difficult to traverse.
Industry:
Industry is strong in Brusaleye. Many factories pour tons of black soot into the sky every day. Metal working and mass production is common place. Many speculate that the nation produces stuff to produce stuff as there are fields that have rows of empty turretless tanks and engineless aircraft.
Main Imports:
Oil and other flammable materials to fuel the fires of the many foundries of the nation, (they do not want to use their considerable reserves.) Precious metals.
Exotic foods are quite popular as well as ships of both civilian and military use.
Main Exports:
Anything that the nation has the capacity to build. Mostly mass produced furniture, machine parts and smelted metals.
Tanks, cars, cheap rifles and aircraft are the primary military exports.
---Note; All pictures are not exacts, just similar aesthetically to what they represent.---
They never tried to be the best, but merely good enough.
Brusaleye's military might is centered around practicality and mobility. Where others deploy combat walkers, Brusaleye will trample with rows upon rows of tanks.
What they may lack in super exotic armor and the highest caliber death projectors, they make up for with effective simplicity and sheer numbers.
Soldier scouting with a scoped Ar-9
Modern infantry uses a variety of weapons and tactics when on the field, most in conjunction with armored vehicles and/or air support. These soldiers are broken into small squads of ten that possess a single simple radio. These squads are trained to communicate and not break discipline under stress.
Though this isn't a guarantee for every situation, commanders all agree that communication is necessary for any conflict and the more precise that communication is, the more lethality can be brought against ones foes.
T-a38 Tank exercises.
Lethality doesn't stop at squad level either. Brusaleye armored forces are just as adept as their infantry brothers. Be it simple cars to the most modern T-a38 tank, all are crewed by the best the nation has to offer.
Many vehicles in operation are made for mobility and ruggedness. The unforgiving plains can wreak havoc upon machines of all shapes and sizes. Brusaleye machines are made for those conditions. Well protected and ventilated tanks and easy to clean motors give the best protection during the sand storms of the summer and easy attach points for tank plows give them the ability to literally pave the way during the unforgiving winters in the northern parts of the nation.
Armored vehicles are fairly fast for their class and boast decent firepower on that platform. Most vehicles have slightly lighter than average armor (though they are efficiently sloped) to protect against sinking in soft ground which is abundant in the interior of the nation.
T-r13 airship killer
Artillery exists in many shapes, from simple squad mortars to heavy 180mm howitzers and the fierce 125mm rocket battery.
Artillery was also developed to counter the every increasing threat of aircraft, be it low flying or high altitude. The biggest issue though was the airship.
When Brusaleye saw its first airships, they were confounded by them and scared of their potential. Leaders quickly issued an order to build their own versions but none except small observational blimps were effective. They just couldn't grasp the technology and materials necessary to build these behemoths.
So they took to the drawing board. Conventional artillery shells could be effective but judging from the big guns on those ships, mobile cannons wouldn't be a threat. Air forces would be a threat for airships but there couldn't be sole reliance on one platform.
The army went to the drawing board once more and reflected in whaling techniques as a last resort. An seemingly idiotic thought led to a cheap but effective defensive measure. Fire a big rocket with a shaped charge right at the damned thing.
These rockets are high velocity and while nearly impossible to use against aircraft, these had a high probability of hitting an airship and with the length of the projectile, it could punch far into the craft.
This measure was put into full production and is readily seen in every city on static mounts and mobile on platforms like the T-r13, sometimes lovingly called the 'popper'.
Soldiers loading aboard a F-c19 Sky Hopper
The Military is not without advancements though. Soldiers needing deployment along the vast plains could not always rely on trucks. New technologies had to be made in the form of the turbo prop.
Rockets as aerial propulsion had promise but proved to be less effective than they hoped and the jet engine never left blue prints.
The turbo prop led to many fixed winged aircraft designs. however many didn't out perform the supercharged propeller engines of existing models.
Fm-x1 flying prototype. The grandfather of the modern F-a21 Saber.
It wasn't long before a young aviation designer, Yadon Mokunga developed the variable angle engine platform, or more easily titled 'tilt rotor' was born.
This gave life to the mighty turboprop. After a few decades, tilt rotor prototypes evolved into fighters and bombers that could fly as fast and high as any conventional aircraft but with the added benefit of not needing a runway.
Cargo transporting took a similar path as larger designs were pushed through which led to modern variants like the 'Sky hopper'.
The nation never put too much stock into a strong navy aside from submarines so the surface navy is primarily purchased vessels. They are updated and customized to fit Brusaleye's needs but are still very lackluster in today's navies.
Brusaleye has long sought to be the best but they know all too well that every other nation desires that as well.
They never tried to be the best, but merely good enough.
Brusaleye's military might is centered around practicality and mobility. Where others deploy combat walkers, Brusaleye will trample with rows upon rows of tanks.
What they may lack in super exotic armor and the highest caliber death projectors, they make up for with effective simplicity and sheer numbers.
Soldier scouting with a scoped Ar-9
Modern infantry uses a variety of weapons and tactics when on the field, most in conjunction with armored vehicles and/or air support. These soldiers are broken into small squads of ten that possess a single simple radio. These squads are trained to communicate and not break discipline under stress.
Though this isn't a guarantee for every situation, commanders all agree that communication is necessary for any conflict and the more precise that communication is, the more lethality can be brought against ones foes.
T-a38 Tank exercises.
Lethality doesn't stop at squad level either. Brusaleye armored forces are just as adept as their infantry brothers. Be it simple cars to the most modern T-a38 tank, all are crewed by the best the nation has to offer.
Many vehicles in operation are made for mobility and ruggedness. The unforgiving plains can wreak havoc upon machines of all shapes and sizes. Brusaleye machines are made for those conditions. Well protected and ventilated tanks and easy to clean motors give the best protection during the sand storms of the summer and easy attach points for tank plows give them the ability to literally pave the way during the unforgiving winters in the northern parts of the nation.
Armored vehicles are fairly fast for their class and boast decent firepower on that platform. Most vehicles have slightly lighter than average armor (though they are efficiently sloped) to protect against sinking in soft ground which is abundant in the interior of the nation.
T-r13 airship killer
Artillery exists in many shapes, from simple squad mortars to heavy 180mm howitzers and the fierce 125mm rocket battery.
Artillery was also developed to counter the every increasing threat of aircraft, be it low flying or high altitude. The biggest issue though was the airship.
When Brusaleye saw its first airships, they were confounded by them and scared of their potential. Leaders quickly issued an order to build their own versions but none except small observational blimps were effective. They just couldn't grasp the technology and materials necessary to build these behemoths.
So they took to the drawing board. Conventional artillery shells could be effective but judging from the big guns on those ships, mobile cannons wouldn't be a threat. Air forces would be a threat for airships but there couldn't be sole reliance on one platform.
The army went to the drawing board once more and reflected in whaling techniques as a last resort. An seemingly idiotic thought led to a cheap but effective defensive measure. Fire a big rocket with a shaped charge right at the damned thing.
These rockets are high velocity and while nearly impossible to use against aircraft, these had a high probability of hitting an airship and with the length of the projectile, it could punch far into the craft.
This measure was put into full production and is readily seen in every city on static mounts and mobile on platforms like the T-r13, sometimes lovingly called the 'popper'.
Soldiers loading aboard a F-c19 Sky Hopper
The Military is not without advancements though. Soldiers needing deployment along the vast plains could not always rely on trucks. New technologies had to be made in the form of the turbo prop.
Rockets as aerial propulsion had promise but proved to be less effective than they hoped and the jet engine never left blue prints.
The turbo prop led to many fixed winged aircraft designs. however many didn't out perform the supercharged propeller engines of existing models.
Fm-x1 flying prototype. The grandfather of the modern F-a21 Saber.
It wasn't long before a young aviation designer, Yadon Mokunga developed the variable angle engine platform, or more easily titled 'tilt rotor' was born.
This gave life to the mighty turboprop. After a few decades, tilt rotor prototypes evolved into fighters and bombers that could fly as fast and high as any conventional aircraft but with the added benefit of not needing a runway.
Cargo transporting took a similar path as larger designs were pushed through which led to modern variants like the 'Sky hopper'.
The nation never put too much stock into a strong navy aside from submarines so the surface navy is primarily purchased vessels. They are updated and customized to fit Brusaleye's needs but are still very lackluster in today's navies.
Brusaleye has long sought to be the best but they know all too well that every other nation desires that as well.
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Private POV; a new character that was born sometime and somewhere. Will likely resemble Rambo because... Rambo.
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The United Provinces of Aurelia, a fusion of Australia/America of OTL, population est: 54 million, government type: Republic with a three tier political system; National, Provincial, Territory. A fusion of Colonies and Independant states that unified after a political revolution (not!Italia).
I want to check if this is allowed since I've been told that the continent I'm on is our version of Africa...
I want to check if this is allowed since I've been told that the continent I'm on is our version of Africa...
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It's actually quite perfect considering your location :)
And nice sheet combo :)
And nice sheet combo :)
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