Cyclone

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I'd like to remind the assembled potential buyers that the PRK is one of the world's largest producers of helium. While it's not Kavuria, it certainly works well enough for human purposes.

@Mihndar

Naturally, Moravia doesn't care.

They have a pretty solid chemical industry and can probably produce small amounts of Kavuria and/or helium, but their airships are going to be called gnomish gyroships and are going to be different in that they have huge rotors and are something like big helicopter-blimp hybrids. Certainly smaller than the airships of Yllendthyr and Avalia, but probably more maneuverable.

The only pictures I've been able to find, feel free to help me find more!

Here's some smaller gyroships that resemble helicotpers and planes much more than blimps. I might just flat out call these smaller classes helicopters.

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@Cyclone

So for my next post, do you think the Caesar would be willing to meet with my peace-loving princess? I also wonder if it would be acceptable for my nation to have a couple of airships. I'd ask Skepic, but they don't seem to have been on for a while.

@ZB1996

No matter how naive she might be, I have a hard time believing that she'd be brave enough to go into Moravia. The Moravians have been exposed to generations of propaganda against Kataylans and presumably Zenovii as well; while the government would be smart enough to not kill her for PR reasons, there would be angry lynch mobs after her.

Think of how the Germans under the Nazi regime genuinely thought that Jews had horns and were some sort of monsters.

As in for airships, I'm probably not the best to ask. Moravia doesn't have that many and the ones that they do have are smaller than most other nations' and are different due to a lack of Kavuria.

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No, look at the north.

@Isotope

Oh, was adding a bit more land onto the Greenland-shape literally the only change? I didn't even see that difference at first xD

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@Isotope

I think you accidentally posted map 1 twice.

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Are you people still accepting?

@Dai Gurren Man

Yeah, we still have some space on the map!

Speaking of which, I ask once again to everyone on this OOC what we are going to do about KalMea. Hael hasn't been on in 15 days.

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I've been taking an absurdly long time to post; I will commit now to finding time for this on the weekend.

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@Combo move

I don't think you'd realistically have any of the derro. Maybe some other "dwarves" like those in Vinculi, but the derro are pretty much exclusively in inland Moravia.

The gnomes could plausibly have a small to medium portion of the population in any nation. They're this world's equivalents of the Jews with Mostia being their Israel that was taken by Ceresia a few centuries back.

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@Romero

Basing your guns off what Willy just talked about would be cool and probably fit your criteria.

On a side note, all this talk of "balancing" nations seems unnecessary. From a story point of view some have to be strong and some have to be weak, and we could easily develop the plot in a way that results in the underdogs and little nations miraculously beating some of the huge powers.

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I've been working on a summary of Moravia's views and relations with most nearby nations. Some are still missing, but the ones that I expect to interact with a lot and/or have an influence on Moravia are listed.

Hider

Moravia's Foreign Relations (WIP)

PRK:
Communist threat to the stability of the region: -----5
We want to reclaim our rightful land (Both parts of the Holy and Old Moravian Empires were lost): -----5
Historical Hatred: ----4
Sizable military threat: ---3
Fuso-Izuno Proxy War: ---3
Anti-religion: --2
Main economic rival: --2
Female ruler: -1
War would be very costly: +++3
Net Opinion: Hated Enemy (-22)
What this means: After more than a thousand years of brooding distrust and mutual hatred, the very name Kataylabinsk has a horrible connotation throughout all of Moravia. The inhabitants of the PRK are essentially considered to be subhuman animals, and the Commonwealth hates both that region and its people to the point of no reconcilliation.

Verendes:
Heathen Religion: -1
Female ruler: -1
Conservative leanings: +1
Historical Friend(Supported fascist uprising): ++2
No interest in conquering Verenden land: ++2
Military Aid: (Naval Modernization): +++3
Enemy of the PRK: ++++4
Strategic Ally(Strong navy and important geographic location): ++++4
Important source of petroleum and other imports +++++5
Net Opinion: Staunch Ally (+19)
What this means: Verendes is the oldest of Moravia's allies, and at this point the relationship is looking like it will last a long time. Particularly when faced with the looming threats of Avalia, the PRK, and to a lesser extent Zenovia, Verendes is a much welcomed ally amongst a virtual sea of enemies.

Ceresia:
Intense opposition from gnomish population: ----4
Matriarchy: -2
Poor relations with Verendes: -2
Female ruler: -1
Heathen Religion: -1
Moravian Racism towards nonhumanoids: -1
Xenophobia towards underwater nation: -1
Has a political faction with fascist leanings: +1
Good Trade Opportunities: +1
Conservative leanings: ++2
Chose the right side in hte izuno-Fuso conflict: ++2
Potentially powerful ally: +++3
Dislikes PRK and Avalia: +++4
Net Opinion: On the fence (+1)
What this means: It is hard to predict how any interaction would go, seeing as there are plenty of resons to both like or loathe Ceresia. As a result, Moravia is rather polarized when it comes to dealings with Ceresia and it would take something major to cause both sides to come close to anything of a consensus regarding how diplomacy should be handled with this nation. Fortunately, Moravia hasn't been forced to make much of a decision yet due to their lack of historical interation with Ceresia and the large distance between the nations.

Worth noting is that the gnomish population of Moravia vehemently wants to retake Mostia (they are again split by whether or not they would want Mostia as an independent state or part of the Commonwealth) but the Moravian government itself does not necessarily share this position with the gnomish minority.

Izuno:
Supporting them means destroying any potential for relations with Fuso: ----4
Not very modern: --2
Heathen Religion: -1
Closer to us than Fuso, and more ideologically compatible: +1
Conservative leanings: ++2
Business ties with Izunese colonies: ++2
Historical Friend(Fought a war together recently): ++2
Strategic Position: ++2
Dislikes the PRK: ++2
Ally: +++3
Important source of petroleum and other imports: +++++5
Net opinion: Ally (+12)
What this means: For numerous reasons, the Commonwealth feels that it is compatible with Izuno and has chosen to take their side in the conflict against Fuso. This has resulted in nothing but mutual benefit, and as time has gone on relations have only grown friendlier to the point of becoming solid allies. For business interests as well as supporting a nation that they genuinely consider a friend, Moravia stands as Izuno's most stalwart ally.

Fuso:
We are officially at war: -----5
Allied to the PRK and Avalia: ----4
You are at war with our ally Izuno: ----4
We recognize Izuno's claims over yours: ---3
Female soldiers: --2
Wretched culture of debauchery and poor morals: --2
Heathen religion: -1
Fuso has plenty of resources that we would want: ++2
The people don't feel that fighting this faroff enemy is worth lives or resources: ++++4

Avalia:
Outright ally to the PRK: -----4
On the wrong side of the Fuso-Izuno conflict: ---3
Icy relations with our ally Verendes: ---3
They dislike us and refuse to trade: ---3
Anti-religion: --2
Far too liberal on many issues: -1
Female soldiers: -1
Female ruler: -1
No interest in conquering Avalian land: ++2
Strategic position: ++2
War would be too costly: +++3
They have valuable technology and goods to offer: +++3
Net opinion: Regretful enemy (-8)
What this means: The Commonwealth has plenty of reasons to dislike Avalia, but these would have been possible to overlook were they not essentially forced into their current position of returning Avalia's hostility with like kind. While cooperation is unlikely on Avalia's end, Moravia might at least be willing to try diplomacy.

Yllendthyr:
The sole biggest contender to Moravia's military dominance, in our eyes: ---3
Fellow Military Expansionist, with global holdings everywhere: --2
They seem to be too close to Avalia: --2
Traditionally isolated from us: --2
Heathen religion: -1
Conservative leanings: ++2
Moravia has no desire to conquer Yllendthyr's lands: ++2
Much better to be a friend than an enemy: ++2
Admiration and respect for what is seen as a fellow ancient empire: ++2
Very good trade opportunities: ++++4
Net opinion: Friendly (+2)
What this means: In general, Moravia is interested in diplomacy with Yllendthyr mainly to decrease the likelihood of them and their allies from joining with the PRK-Avalia block in the case of any military conflicts. Beyond that, they also see great potential in attempting to actually pull Yllendthyr onto the fray as an ally, and would be willing to supplicate to a great extent if it meant having such a powerful ally to help permanently dismantle the PRK. In the worst possible case, they would like to at least maintain trade relations with Yllendthyr and not draw the ire of a global naval power that could cause a great deal of trouble through blockades.

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@Serpentine88

It's not really hypocrisy on my part because if you'll recall, I was one of the ones that were really pissed off about the fairies. I almost left because of it. It's gotten to the point where provided they aren't my next door neighbor and I'm not constantly interacting, I'll just silently tolerate it. I don't like being that guy that whines about everything and shuts down every idea.

What it comes down to at the end of the day is me seeing this as a pretty strict sci-fi dieselpunk environment, but others don't necessarilly share my viewpoint. I'm willing to concede that since this isn't my RP I can't have everything the way that I want, but at the same time I don't have to like every idea. You see where I'm coming from?

@Wernher

When you put it that way, I don't mind the dragons so much.

But I maintain that the scales are still way too strong. Mithil is supposed to be like titanium; you say that the dragons could easily die if their scales were like bone, but in reality it's more comparable to the armor on a tank. Probably even better than what Willy's tanks have.

So not only does this make dragons able to just roflstomp over all but the most powerful of weapons, it also gives you an armor plating that almost outdoes Willy's niched mithril in every way. Being unable to mold it doesn't matter that much seeing as you could just make lamellar quilts of scales to put over a tank and give it more armor than anything else and apparently with hardly any additional weight.

In essence I don't think dragon scales should be heat resistant, stronger than mithril, and somehow even lighter all at once.