DarkwolfX37

Myriad Reality

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I totally get what you're saying. It's probably not impossible for a culture to form (although it hasn't) that has, say, five or six genders but two sexes. But from David's and my Christian perspective, God created two genders and two sex which correspond, and so culture and society are technically irrelevant. That's why "gender and sex are different is a fact" seems like a loaded sentence, even though I know you don't mean it to be.

@Balance

Fair enough. I'll definitely take that reasoning.

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It doesn't happen for the same reason they don't use "stuff" in a professional setting; it can be obscured and twisted because anything not absolutely specific can be minced. "Gender" is a significantly more casual term than biological "sex."

@Dynamics

I'll bet you your future company that "stuff" gets used sooner than "gender." :P

Myriad Reality

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I think it's that in Christianity, biological sex and gender role are identical and inseparable, but the idea that sex and gender are separate sends the message that to be a different gender from your sex is okay.

@Balance

Okay, so let me try to elaborate then to avoid that.
Sex: Based on chromosomes and reproductive cells, as David put.
Gender: The traits entwined with sex in a given society/culture.
Gender Identity: The only thing someone can actually affect: What gender someone wants applied to themself/does apply to themself and the traits with it.

So the confusion between gender and gender identity is an obviously common one and is a small part of the problem with SJWs. The one between sex and gender is since common usage they're interchanged, sort of like how "ironic" is used to mean something it doesn't actually mean.

I literally never thought of them being separate somehow meaning it is or isn't okay to have a different gender than sex. The problem with thinking that it's not okay, though, is that gender can't be controlled because it depends on the given society/culture. Boy to us and boy to ancient england or modern japan or any other society are different things, like how all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

I'm not sure if that'll make sense to anyone but me but meh.

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Don't make that claim until the definition (inevitably) changes. "the state of being male or female (typically used with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones).
'traditional concepts of gender'
synonyms: sex"

"Typically," but social and cultural reflect biological. But let's define male and female

'male
māl/Submit
adjective
1.
of or denoting the sex that produces small, typically motile gametes, especially spermatozoa, with which a female may be fertilized or inseminated to produce offspring."

"fe·male
ˈfēˌmāl/Submit
adjective
1.
of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) that can be fertilized by male gametes."

@Dynamics

The day a scientist who isn't a psychologist or sociologist uses gender in a study I'll concede. It'll never happen because they're different things.
Also, I like (genuinely like, not as in the facetious way. It's funny to me in a good way.) how you used "definitions change" and "typically needs to be noted" on the same side of a point.
Also the "societal reflects biological" is HIGHLY debatable, though I think I'd mostly be on the same side as you in that debate.

Myriad Reality

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It automatically assigns other beliefs as wrong.

@Dynamics

Probably because I'm using definitions? Saying that human asexuality and biological asexuality are the same or that one doesn't exist at all, classification as a sexuality aside, IS wrong. As is saying that sex and gender are the same thing. :/
Where is the issue here exactly?

Myriad Reality

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Please tell me you realize how pointed your wording is and that it's intentional.

@Dynamics

I think so? but it's not intentional.

Myriad Reality

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Going to church in two hours. But I might be able to. Did you check the AcademyCraft configs to see if there's anything for retrogen?

@Balance

No I haven't, one sec

So if you just move the mod, no. But the config from regrowth has stuff that the mod's auto created config doesn't, so I think we just have to move the config from regrowth too.

Sorry, I was eating.

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I still don't consider it a sexuality at all. But if you want to destroy that argument, it's called "asexual reproduction" in biology.

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Quit two years ago, only have the app for MR archiving. No regrets.

@Dynamics

That people can't grasp the simple concept is insane to me. Like, at least with gender v sex I can understand why people are wrong, but the difference between asexuality and biological asexuality is like saltwater and freshwater. How is there confusion.

Myriad Reality

Whizz lemme know if you wanna play minecraft.

I already put academycraft in mine to test it out but I still don't know if hamachi will work.

reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/2l9..

Myriad Reality

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True. I just always associate it to iFunny because that's where most of my debating experience comes from.

@Multifarious

I only ever look at my subs anymore. I don't bother with collective after all the morons, and usually the people I'm subbed to don't post things that have debates on them ever since a few of them who did quit.

Myriad Reality

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You're telling me. You just can't debate with them either. David may be able to stand with me when I say that 95% of people on iFunny have such ornery and confounded beliefs and arguments that it really makes you just want to quit.

@Multifarious

95% of people period*

Myriad Reality

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Like, she puts it down in a way as a phase, something insignificant and temporary and that it can easily be broken.

@Balance

People do that for everything other than hetero. It's something that's too foreign to most people for them to think of as anything else, unfortunately.

Myriad Reality

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There wasn't a post for it, but I thought that traveling alone down a hallway implied it pretty well. I can make another if you want.

@Dynamics

Yesh please. Just something to show she enters a large room.