Fabricant451

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I mean I'm black and I'm pretty fuckin' lazy so maybe they're onto something.

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We can post characters here, right? Because I can have my criminal gal up no later than Tuesday

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I mean, I agree with him especially the parts about social media exaggerated things and people started thinking things like CrowbCat's video or whatever selectively edited thing was indicative of the game as a whole. Was there some bad dialog? Yes, absolutely. But then name one BioWare game that doesn't have dialog that misses. People made a huge stink over shit like "My face is tired" as if that was the entire game or else they turned to the initial flirting with Suvi as a sign that the dialog was all cringe 'Tumblr shit' completely failing to understand that Ryder isn't badass space soldier man Shepard but is literal space nerd young twenty-something who, at the time, is basically bumbling around in a position she wasn't at all trained or qualified for and now there's a cute girl complicating things. Granted it was still kind of embarrassing but that was kind of the point.

Andromeda had a lot of problems going into development starting with it being foisted off to the C-Team as well as the people leaving the company mid-development. BioWare is trying to shift towards a more open world style game since Inquisition was their blueprint going forward but that sort of thing is in exact opposite to how BioWare has typically structured their games and while I'm all for a dev taking a 'risk' considering one of Inquisition's biggest flaws was the open world having little of merit to do and areas being expansive and a chore to explore and that Andromeda was even worse about that I'm not sure why they are so focused on that instead of honing on the strengths that got them there. No one thought the Mako side shit was the best part of Mass Effect.

Gamers are the worst types of hobbyists.

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Right on. I'll get to work.

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Speaking of overrated................hmm maybe another thread.

@Dynamo Frokane

Man, if that thread got made I might actually get banned because I will throw down and get mean.

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@Fabricant451 I mean after you said bioware fans are very critical and pretty hard to please, you sorta sound like a Bethesda fan who is critical and hard to please, and you definitely aren't the only one. When it comes to those two developers I really still do believe that the fanbase have slightly more fun bitching about the games than playing them.

@Dynamo Frokane

I mean, Bethesda fans are generally fine with Bethesda games. It's only recently that they've started turning what with all the Skyrim re-releases and the Creation Club debacle but that's more business decisions rather than game ones. Skyrim is still widely regarded by the gaming media and the community, barring the ones who are like "ugh so shallow have you heard of The Witcher 3?" I'm not hard to please when it comes to Bethesda games. I genuinely don't like them even though I should and I want to. There's often a misconception when people are critical of games that they go in wanting to nitpick or find flaws when in reality it's more that the flaws readily present themselves.

This is especially true of Bethesda games.

Since when did we start talking about Andromeda?

Andromeda was sort of doomed from the start once people started overblowing the animations and turning it into a witch hunt over shit like a writer or person on the team having purple hair. Also, just saying, Andromeda at least manages to not dump all over its own lore so much as it just...doesn't do enough with its setting.

I liked games better when people weren't able to just go "It's Tumblr quality" in lieu of actually having an opinion. Andromeda was bad for that.

Its a shame that this isnt a thread about overrated TV because I would have sweet sadistic pleasure in tearing apart TWD in long form. Yes the first season was somewhere between decent and good (if not almost unbearably campy sometimes). But everything else has been pure unleaded horseshit, its a bad T.V, show with poor acting, poor plot-lines, shitty production values, predictable as sin, shit dialogue and the worst pacing I have ever seen. Game of thrones occasionally suffers from these problems but benefits from having the odd critically acclaimed episode to make you forgive some of the crap they throw at you. TWD has a mildly more involved season finale where they decide to spend more than £1000 dollars on the budget just enough to trick people who breath through their mouths to come back for the next one.

TL;DR
Season One is competent, probably has about 4 episodes that could be labelled as 'good' the rest are okay. Every other season of every other episode sucks hairy nutsack and you know it.

I mean, I have no opinion on the show other than "The first episode was good" and "Man, fuck AMC for shitting on Darabont and his vision because you wanted to save money the guy directed Shawshank let him work". I watched the first episode and then never watched any other episode because I remembered that I fucking loathe zombie fiction.

So I'll take your word for it.

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@Tlstiffl I am. Is there a gender requirement because I'm considering criminal gal

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All this time I've been waiting but it is me that people are waiting on.

Okay well I'll have something tomorrow.

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Not the first time a story mode was put in a sports game and worked. Shame that the Spike Lee direction was bad and short-sighted with bad integration with gameplay. People liked 2k17's story mode a lot more, and nobody ever has an issue with when Fight Night did it like ten years ago. Story within the framework of a sports game is not bad; depth is not bad. It's all in the execution and integration.

@Inkarnate

Fight Night Champion was six years ago I'll have you know. And the WWE games have been doing story for longer still - with branching paths and everything. But those games are garbage. MLB The Show has its Road to the Show thing and that's barely a story but they try for it.

FNC also came out and elevated the gameplay to the point where the generic but effective story was just the cherry on top of the icing that was its entire cake. Considering that FIFA's whole The Journey thing was not nearly as positive but the improvements thanks to the use of a new engine showed a marked improvement over the last year's model which was noteworthy only because it included women's teams. By many accounts Madden's story mode is more in line with FIFA's and doesn't even have a lot of football in it anyway.

And considering the creative director of EA Sports had Madden Longshot being pegged as a a 'playable movie' it paints comparisons to Livin Da Dream over Champion Mode because Champion Mode at least incorporated different boxing styles and techniques and gameplay elements in the fights. Sports games wanting to have story modes are fine but if you're playing like five minutes of basketball only to have fifteen minutes of your douchebag asshole friend read you his last will and testament after he dies then maybe try again.

That's probably why no one had issue with Fight Night Champion. Because it was done relatively okay.

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@Dynamo Frokane

That song is about finding a good man which is a whole other issue.

By saying that the first episode of The Walking Dead is a good episode (because it is, because it was done by a director that had a vision for the show before the network fired him) it's saying that it's not that hard to find positive discussion about the game. Even some of its more vocal critics can say positive things about it because despite it being broken and bad and boring and stupid and it literally making no sense at all from a lore and story telling perspective if you just blatantly ignore all of that you can probably find something that is enjoyable. The shooting isn't terrible and some people might even like the more buildy aspects of the settlement stuff. But as a sequel to 3 (which is still not great but betterthan 4) it's like it's set in a different series.

Bethesda games have a tendency to pull the wool over eyes with the promise of possibility to the point where about thirty hours in the fact that the 'main quest' hasn't been thought about since the opening hour is seen as a credit to the game and a statement of 'you can do anything!' when in fact you've been doing the same small selection of tasks with only slight differences in goal. They can make a world that can be fun to explore on its own, it's when they add the 'stuff to do' and 'story and character' part where they trip and fall, but by that point the audience is willing to applaud them for trying anyway.

I dont personally think sales are relevant, people who buy games like Madden, Fifa, COD probably know their games aren't very good but that's just what they like passing the time with.

@Dynamo Frokane

It's probably why Madden and FIFA are trying to be like NBA 2K now with fuckin story modes because that worked out well with Spike Lee didn't it 2K.